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Post by bog on Nov 26, 2021 11:09:44 GMT -5
I totally get the urge to think this guy should've gotten his ass kicked. I do. But here's my thought when this happens. Do whatever it takes to subdue the guy and protect the performer. But once you do, there's no need for anything else. 99.99% of folks know this is incredibly stupid. It's always very possible that someone jumping the rail either has a mental illness or is mentally disabled. We don't need to kick the shit out of them if it can be avoided. And it's not like doing that will disincentivize this in the future. Anyone who's rational will know this is a bad idea. Beating someone up won't affect those who already want to do this. Just focus on protecting the performer and getting the attacker to the proper authorities. Yeah totally. I get decking the guy in the moment, but once he's restrained or out for the count, there's no reason to get any shots in. mental health in the united states is something that is casually overlooked and undiagnosed. All around the world really Yep...if you talk about it, you're labeled weak, and those who call you brave get eyerolled by others. It's amazing to me Eddie Kingston has been the first trauma informed wrestler ever. It's groundbreaking to me. Although I guess Foley did some of that in his JR interviews too. Edit: And, I will straight up admit I am a hypocrite for saying this, but the dude who attacked Bret *did* deserve that punch in the face. Bret is incapable of defending himself.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Nov 26, 2021 14:34:14 GMT -5
I totally get the urge to think this guy should've gotten his ass kicked. I do. But here's my thought when this happens. Do whatever it takes to subdue the guy and protect the performer. But once you do, there's no need for anything else. 99.99% of folks know this is incredibly stupid. It's always very possible that someone jumping the rail either has a mental illness or is mentally disabled. We don't need to kick the shit out of them if it can be avoided. And it's not like doing that will disincentivize this in the future. Anyone who's rational will know this is a bad idea. Beating someone up won't affect those who already want to do this. Just focus on protecting the performer and getting the attacker to the proper authorities. Yeah totally. I get decking the guy in the moment, but once he's restrained or out for the count, there's no reason to get any shots in. All around the world really Yep...if you talk about it, you're labeled weak, and those who call you brave get eyerolled by others. It's amazing to me Eddie Kingston has been the first trauma informed wrestler ever. It's groundbreaking to me. Although I guess Foley did some of that in his JR interviews too. Edit: And, I will straight up admit I am a hypocrite for saying this, but the dude who attacked Bret *did* deserve that punch in the face. Bret is incapable of defending himself. Agreed. If he was a wrestling fan then he was most likely aware that Bret is disabled for lack of a better word and any head or neck impact could be deadly. So attacking him could be called attempted murder.
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on Nov 28, 2021 15:21:54 GMT -5
Balor fans:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2021 16:29:16 GMT -5
Balor fans: It'll be hilarious if Seth assaults him before the match even starts again.
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on Nov 28, 2021 18:24:33 GMT -5
Balor fans: It'll be hilarious if Seth assaults him before the match even starts again. "Gonna sic your fans on me, huh? With your aura, and your attitude? Well this is for THAT!" *kick kick stomp* Finn:
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 26, 2021 20:00:26 GMT -5
This guy needs to be banned from the shows at all costs.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 26, 2021 20:07:32 GMT -5
This guy needs to be banned from the shows at all costs. I think there's a good chance he already is after the first assault, so this is going to end very poorly and become an issue for him when the charges proceed. This sort of shit does not look good.
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 26, 2021 20:10:48 GMT -5
"Amateur!"
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on Dec 26, 2021 20:19:27 GMT -5
Geez if they let him stay, and he learns neither Big E or Bianca are there, hopefully he doesn't do anything ridiculous again.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 26, 2021 20:35:03 GMT -5
Did something happen as to why this thread got bumped? Is he at the msg show?
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 26, 2021 20:45:48 GMT -5
Did something happen as to why this thread got bumped? Is he at the msg show? Yes. Or at least outside the venue.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 27, 2021 0:00:09 GMT -5
Dumb on his part as this not going to look well for his court case
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 18:22:13 GMT -5
I get why they're afraid to do it, but if they would let the wrestlers handle this like they used to back in the day, there's no way this dude would come back for round 2.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 27, 2021 18:46:02 GMT -5
I get why they're afraid to do it, but if they would let the wrestlers handle this like they used to back in the day, there's no way this dude would come back for round 2. Back in the early 00’s or so, Toronto Maple Leafs tough guy got into it with a fan while he was in the penalty box. The fan was leaning on the glass. Bob Cole (on commentary): Let him in!! Let him into the box!!! (Glass gives way, fan is now in the box) Watch the lawsuit Tie!!!! Watch the lawsuit!!! It was hilarious how fast they switched from wanting to fight the fan to not wanting him to once it was real. About one second. youtu.be/X2lZ-cD6gE0
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 27, 2021 18:56:37 GMT -5
I get why they're afraid to do it, but if they would let the wrestlers handle this like they used to back in the day, there's no way this dude would come back for round 2. I do think there is something to be said for a lack of consequences playing a part in some of these cases but in this case crazy is crazy and I'm not sure how much the old school ways help that.
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Post by edgestar on Dec 27, 2021 19:29:29 GMT -5
Geez if they let him stay, and he learns neither Big E or Bianca are there, hopefully he doesn't do anything ridiculous again. His boy and his homegirl!! She could wipe the floor with the guy lol.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 27, 2021 19:34:07 GMT -5
I get why they're afraid to do it, but if they would let the wrestlers handle this like they used to back in the day, there's no way this dude would come back for round 2. I do think there is something to be said for a lack of consequences playing a part in some of these cases but in this case crazy is crazy and I'm not sure how much the old school ways help that. I mean, if you do listen to the “old school” stories, they’re usually about smashing the fan with a gimmick or chair and then getting in the car and into the next town and kayfabing the cops. They’re amusing stories, but they’re hardly victorious fist fights where they taught fans a lesson.
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on Dec 27, 2021 19:37:23 GMT -5
Geez if they let him stay, and he learns neither Big E or Bianca are there, hopefully he doesn't do anything ridiculous again. His boy and his homegirl!! She could wipe the floor with the guy lol. Most of them probably could
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