asuka007
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 3, 2022 10:24:14 GMT -5
Brandi seems to lack a defined consistent direction or character imo. And it’s been that way for a long time. It’s not entirely her fault, AEW seems to not know how to properly utilize her character onscreen. She just bounces all over the place a lot of the time.
Like she’s a self confident unapologetic heel, ok cool. You can work with that. But why put her up against Dan Lambert, who’s playing a sexist jerk heel as well, then? Who are people meant to care about/root for here?
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Feb 3, 2022 10:40:12 GMT -5
I try to stay away from the Codyverse stuff…but…oof. That segment.
If they wanna run that, fine. But in front of THAT crowd? *RandyOrtonSTUPID.gif*
Like, Brandy could have had Danhausen out there with her and still gotten booed in front of a Chicago crowd.
Just…oof.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 3, 2022 10:40:27 GMT -5
Come on, she is clearly 100% a heel, this isnt like the whole tweenish stuff Cody has been doing..
If she was 100% a heel and being put up against 100% faces then I don’t think there would be a huge problem with it (though the content from her was still cringey). Putting her against Lambert is the real issue here.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 3, 2022 14:37:00 GMT -5
^Exactly
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Post by markymark on Feb 3, 2022 14:41:32 GMT -5
Beside setting up the PVZ feud, it also felt that they put Brandi and Lambert together because they wanted a big reaction but idk if it was the kind of reaction they wanted(see boring chants).
Idk if Brandi can turn it around like QT did when it comes to getting proper heel reaction
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 3, 2022 20:13:27 GMT -5
Ronda was like all-time good in her first match. Had basically a 4.5-5 star match to start. Her and Nia Jax had a match that had no right being as good as it was Honestly, it was maybe the best match either woman ever had.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 4, 2022 14:31:10 GMT -5
I really posted this in the wrong thread already, but uh - I think this was one of the worst segments AEW has ever put on.
And Brandi looked genuinely hurt that the fans hated her, and I can see why, that did not sound like heel heat to me.
Why should I care about this angle? EVERYONE is worth booing
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Post by markymark on Feb 4, 2022 14:37:35 GMT -5
I really posted this in the wrong thread already, but uh - I think this was one of the worst segments AEW has ever put on. And Brandi looked genuinely hurt that the fans hated her, and I can see why, that did not sound like heel heat to me. Why should I care about this angle? EVERYONE is worth booing
Both on camera and on twitter, idk how much longer she will take this, QT somewhat turned his go away heat into real heat but I dont see her managing to pull it off because at least QT was able to handle the criticism...
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 4, 2022 14:41:07 GMT -5
And Brandi looked genuinely hurt that the fans hated her, and I can see why, that did not sound like heel heat to me. All the more sad is that the promo started with one of the cheapest heel heat lines ever from her. But like...she knows damn well that she isn't a massively over heel because she's so good on the mic.
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Post by Blade on Feb 4, 2022 16:10:05 GMT -5
Only in wrestling do people go "Why do I have to see two bad guys interact? Who am I supposed to cheer?".
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Post by dpg on Feb 4, 2022 16:16:26 GMT -5
I really posted this in the wrong thread already, but uh - I think this was one of the worst segments AEW has ever put on. And Brandi looked genuinely hurt that the fans hated her, and I can see why, that did not sound like heel heat to me. Why should I care about this angle? EVERYONE is worth booing I'm just confused by what it was meant to achieve, as in the whole storyline. Brandi has been thrown into miss after miss since AEW started. Does she really need to be an active wrestler at this point? She may want to be, but she hasn't shown any real long term development to warrant it. At least, not regular segments. The crowd are disinterested and they don't really benefit anyone.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 4, 2022 16:17:28 GMT -5
Only in wrestling do people go "Why do I have to see two bad guys interact? Who am I supposed to cheer?". Wrestling has conventions where everything eventually leads to a match, in which the audience is expected to take the side of one party. In this case, the match being set up appears to be Brandi vs. PVZ. PVZ is being represented by Lambert, who has been built up as loathsome, and Brandi, who opened the segment with a cheap heat line. If it were setting up some kind of alliance, or one side turning face, that's different, but instead, PVZ is being hyped up by a terrible person and her opponent is deliberately drawing a negative reaction, so there's not much to make of it. Yeah, other genres will have villains interact, but other genres will also have audiences say, "I don't care about any of these people or what could come of this interaction," which is what's really being gotten at, here.
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Post by Blade on Feb 4, 2022 16:32:28 GMT -5
Oh yes, there's valid problems to be had with the segment, I was just struck by how many people turn to "I have noone to cheer for" as if that is a self-evident and sufficient denunciation.
When Shawn Michaels and Rick Martel had a feud, my reaction wasn't that, but "Neat! It makes sense not all bad guys would mysteriously like each other due to Bad Guy Camaraderie".
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 4, 2022 16:48:39 GMT -5
Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Feb 4, 2022 17:17:32 GMT -5
Only in wrestling do people go "Why do I have to see two bad guys interact? Who am I supposed to cheer?". I agree. I actually think they know Paige VanZant will be cheered. Even if she's with Dan Lambert, she has a natural charisma and character that gets people excited. They know she's going to get a lot of people in the crowd cheering for her, but Lambert is still a heel. Brandi would get booed no matter what, so might as well throw her to PVZ. I also don't care if someone is a heel or face, I cheer for whoever I like.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 4, 2022 17:42:32 GMT -5
Other than how smoking Brandi looked, that was pretty much awful.
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