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Post by Kalmia on Jan 5, 2022 22:19:45 GMT -5
I gave it an 8. Loved the opening match and everything with Punk and MJF. Although the TBS title match wasn't fantastic, it was serviceable and the crowd was hot by the end. The Jericho promo was bad, but 2.0 are always fun. The Black vs. Pillman Jr. match was just kinda there, and the main event was fun.
Overall, I enjoyed it and don't have any major complaints.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jan 5, 2022 22:23:10 GMT -5
Gave it a 9
3 title matches in one night (wasn't thrilled about Ruby losing but oh well)
That Punk/MjF moment was brilliant
Also good to See Jungle Boy and Luchasauress finally win the big one
The lights going out in the ME and then coming back on was a great fake out
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2022 22:23:20 GMT -5
I'm here live and I'll give it an easy 9. Tremendous wrestling all around and an amazing live experience. You'll have to let us know Rampage stuff in the spoilers thread!
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jan 5, 2022 22:25:19 GMT -5
Didn’t watch
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2022 22:25:25 GMT -5
Tony Khan turns into Vince McMahon when it comes to booking the women. Really? Come on now, the women's division needs work but let's not act like it's as dire as WWE's main roster at this current time... it's really f***ing not.
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Post by flowercity on Jan 5, 2022 22:25:34 GMT -5
Hard one to rate. The opener into Punk/MJF was some of the best wrestling television ever. Really rough points. I’m a huge Jade fan but that match was tough. Pillman is dreadful. Main event helped pick up steam...all things consider 8/10.
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Post by petef3 on Jan 5, 2022 22:26:42 GMT -5
Hard one to rate. The opener into Punk/MJF was some of the best wrestling television ever. Really rough points. I’m a huge Jade fan but that match was tough. Pillman is dreadful. Main event helped pick up steam...all things consider 8/10. Obviously anyone can rate the show however they want, but these "lots of really rough points and dreadful stuff, 8/10" posts crack me up. What's the point of having a 10-point scale when the show is seemingly rated only on a scale of 7-10? Edit: Just to re-emphasize...if someone truly thinks the show is an 8, that's one thing. I'm talking about multiple posts where people call out half of the segments on the show and still give it a 9. To me, a 10-point episode of TV is an all-time classic that will be talked about as a specific episode for years. Stuff like the Dallas Raw in 2000, or even the Dynamite from a couple of weeks ago. It doesn't mean every segment has to be gold, but you have to walk away thinking of a lot more good than bad.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 5, 2022 22:27:15 GMT -5
The Hangman vs. Danielson match is an early MOTY candidate and that, the tag-team match, and the MJF/Punk segment were more than enough to carry a weaker middle of the show.
I'll give it a 9 based on the big strengths, as I don't think the crappy parts of the show really took away from them.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2022 22:28:25 GMT -5
I'm here live and I'll give it an easy 9. Tremendous wrestling all around and an amazing live experience. Genuine question, was the crowd dead for the TBS title match? Because coming across here some people voted lower because it sounded like the crowd died by the second hour.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2022 22:30:18 GMT -5
Hard one to rate. The opener into Punk/MJF was some of the best wrestling television ever. Really rough points. I’m a huge Jade fan but that match was tough. Pillman is dreadful. Main event helped pick up steam...all things consider 8/10. Obviously anyone can rate the show however they want, but these "lots of really rough points and dreadful stuff, 8/10" posts crack me up. What's the point of having a 10-point scale when the show is seemingly rated only on a scale of 7-10? Edit: Just to re-emphasize...if someone truly thinks the show is an 8, that's one thing. I'm talking about multiple posts where people call out half of the segments on the show and still give it a 9. To me, a 10-point episode of TV is an all-time classic that will be talked about as a specific episode for years. Stuff like the Dallas Raw in 2000, or even the Dynamite from a couple of weeks ago. It doesn't mean every segment has to be gold, but you have to walk away thinking of a lot more good than bad. Because the negative dont detract as hard from the positives for some people. People think differently than you in what detracts or adds to a show. So please don't laugh at someone for their rating no one laughs at your takes. They clearly thought more of the show than you did, that's it.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jan 5, 2022 22:31:15 GMT -5
Hard one to rate. The opener into Punk/MJF was some of the best wrestling television ever. Really rough points. I’m a huge Jade fan but that match was tough. Pillman is dreadful. Main event helped pick up steam...all things consider 8/10. Obviously anyone can rate the show however they want, but these "lots of really rough points and dreadful stuff, 8/10" posts crack me up. What's the point of having a 10-point scale when the show is seemingly rated only on a scale of 7-10? Edit: Just to re-emphasize...if someone truly thinks the show is an 8, that's one thing. I'm talking about multiple posts where people call out half of the segments on the show and still give it a 9. To me, a 10-point episode of TV is an all-time classic that will be talked about as a specific episode for years. Stuff like the Dallas Raw in 2000, or even the Dynamite from a couple of weeks ago. It doesn't mean every segment has to be gold, but you have to walk away thinking of a lot more good than bad. I think it’s really just a matter of how people rate. Some people need to grade a show like they’re actual critics and some people are emotional just rate really high or low if they loved or hated the show. I probably go into the later, I rarely hate anything AEW does so I just rate it highly in the 8-10 range.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 5, 2022 22:31:57 GMT -5
Gave it a 9/10
Great main event. Jungle Boy is a champion finally and has deserved and earned every bit of it
AEW title match was a MOTY contender
Excellent promo with Punk and MJF
Only thing I didn't like was Cargill winning. You have Statlander, Hayter, Tay and Anna as far better options. Cargill isn't ready and has not earned this at all. Terrible decision and hopefully this us a short reign
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 5, 2022 22:32:37 GMT -5
Tony Khan turns into Vince McMahon when it comes to booking the women. Really? Come on now, the women's division needs work but let's not act like it's as dire as WWE's main roster at this current time... it's really f***ing not. I mean, I will say I see zero difference in pushing Omos and pushing Jade. They're both pretty much useless big lugs who are unstoppable because apparently visuals matter even if you can't wrestle or talk.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 5, 2022 22:32:40 GMT -5
I'm here live and I'll give it an easy 9. Tremendous wrestling all around and an amazing live experience. Genuine question, was the crowd dead for the TBS title match? Because coming across here some people voted lower because it sounded like the crowd died by the second hour. I mean at times but they came up for the final five minutes. There was a lot of back and forth chants for Jade and Ruby. Plus Jade got a big reaction for the win. She was pretty over. But we all came up again for the main event.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 5, 2022 22:33:23 GMT -5
I will say this as well, with the Pillman/Black match AEW fell again into a normal trap of having a squash go way too long
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Post by petef3 on Jan 5, 2022 22:33:44 GMT -5
Obviously anyone can rate the show however they want, but these "lots of really rough points and dreadful stuff, 8/10" posts crack me up. What's the point of having a 10-point scale when the show is seemingly rated only on a scale of 7-10? Edit: Just to re-emphasize...if someone truly thinks the show is an 8, that's one thing. I'm talking about multiple posts where people call out half of the segments on the show and still give it a 9. To me, a 10-point episode of TV is an all-time classic that will be talked about as a specific episode for years. Stuff like the Dallas Raw in 2000, or even the Dynamite from a couple of weeks ago. It doesn't mean every segment has to be gold, but you have to walk away thinking of a lot more good than bad. Because the negative dont detract as hard from the positives for some people. People think differently than you in what detracts or adds to a show. So please don't laugh at someone for their rating no one laughs at your takes. They clearly thought more of the show than you did, that's it. That's what I tried to emphasize with my edit: the rating literally doesn't match the text of the post. Roger Ebert is free to give **** to any movie he sees as worthy, but if his review has complaints about the lead actress and how the ending doesn't work amongst the praise, I'd be real confused. A movie with "enough good points that don't detract as hard from the positives" is a ***, marginal-thumbs-up affair. If it's an album, a 6.6 out of 10 on Pitchfork.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2022 22:33:56 GMT -5
Really? Come on now, the women's division needs work but let's not act like it's as dire as WWE's main roster at this current time... it's really f***ing not. I mean, I will say I see zero difference in pushing Omos and pushing Jade. They're both pretty much useless big lugs who are unstoppable because apparently visuals matter even if you can't wrestle or talk. Jade looks way more imposing than Omos, and Jade while she does need work, is still able to hit moves or do spots at a better pace than Omos can or does. Jade has way more upside, to me personally. I also don't think she's a TERRIBLE promo but at least they have a manager who can too.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 5, 2022 22:34:29 GMT -5
Really? Come on now, the women's division needs work but let's not act like it's as dire as WWE's main roster at this current time... it's really f***ing not. I mean, I will say I see zero difference in pushing Omos and pushing Jade. They're both pretty much useless big lugs who are unstoppable because apparently visuals matter even if you can't wrestle or talk. I... don't mind WWE pushing Omos and by a lot of accounts the arena crowds react well to Omos
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2022 22:35:18 GMT -5
Because the negative dont detract as hard from the positives for some people. People think differently than you in what detracts or adds to a show. So please don't laugh at someone for their rating no one laughs at your takes. They clearly thought more of the show than you did, that's it. That's what I tried to emphasize with my edit: the rating literally doesn't match the text of the post. Roger Ebert is free to give **** to any movie he sees as worthy, but if his review has complaints about the lead actress and how the ending doesn't work amongst the praise, I'd be real confused. A movie with "enough good points that don't detract as hard from the positives" is a ***, marginal-thumbs-up affair. If it's an album, a 6.6 out of 10 on Pitchfork. It's subjective taste dude, like really I don't know what you want people to tell you on a Poll thread, shows are all judges differently by everyone here and will be absorbed differently too, it's really not worth getting worked up over imo, it's really not that serious.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 5, 2022 22:35:57 GMT -5
I will say this as well, with the Pillman/Black match AEW fell again into a normal trap of having a squash go way too long Pillman in general feels like someone whose entire existence should be getting squashed on Dark and instead he pretty routinely gets matches and angles on Dynamite. I find it baffling because guy's just... really, really lame.
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