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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 9, 2022 22:02:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty much categorically opposed to year long reigns in general but doing two of them is especially completely insane. Feel like the only reasons the division isn't as much of a hollow wasteland as Raw and SmackDown's were after Becky and Bayley's reigns is that AEW has a higher rate of debuting new people and doesn't do matches where one person beats the entire rest of the division to cement that they're super serious.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 9, 2022 22:22:01 GMT -5
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Post by Blade on Jan 10, 2022 0:08:36 GMT -5
I don't see the point of criticising an arrogant heel for posting in character as an arrogant heel. This feels like looking for something to criticise, tbh. She's talked about wanting to make the division the best in can be in out of character interviews.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 10, 2022 0:25:38 GMT -5
I don't see the point of criticising an arrogant heel for posting in character as an arrogant heel. This feels like looking for something to criticise, tbh. She's talked about wanting to make the division the best in can be in out of character interviews. I mean while the tweet is a reach she basically called the TBS tournament a bunch of losers. Better to say nothing than that
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 1:30:28 GMT -5
It’s kind of hard to use the “she’s over” line when plenty of other women are also over when getting far less and they were pushing her hard even before she was over. The argument they “it’s working” is highly debatable because the booking of the women is still the element of AEW that gets the most complaints. Maybe if they booked the division better, it would be less on an issue. But when it is still not used well, the problems become more noticeable. Yes, they pushed her before she was over. She's over NOW though, and that's what matters. I haven't heard the AEW crowd louder for any woman than for her. Maybe Riho or Thunder Rosa sometimes, but that "DMD" is explosive every time. And yes, other women could very well be the champion also. And maybe they will be. What's the rush? I'm not even a Britt Baker fan but keeping the belt on her until she loses to Thunder Rosa or someone like that is pro wrestling booking 101.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 1:32:05 GMT -5
I don't see the point of criticising an arrogant heel for posting in character as an arrogant heel. This feels like looking for something to criticise, tbh. She's talked about wanting to make the division the best in can be in out of character interviews. I mean while the tweet is a reach she basically called the TBS tournament a bunch of losers. Better to say nothing than that The tweet made HER look like an asshole, not the women in the tournament.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 10, 2022 1:34:34 GMT -5
It’s kind of hard to use the “she’s over” line when plenty of other women are also over when getting far less and they were pushing her hard even before she was over. The argument they “it’s working” is highly debatable because the booking of the women is still the element of AEW that gets the most complaints. Maybe if they booked the division better, it would be less on an issue. But when it is still not used well, the problems become more noticeable. Yes, they pushed her before she was over. She's over NOW though, and that's what matters. I haven't heard the AEW crowd louder for anyone than for her. And yes, other women could very well be the champion also. And maybe they will be. What's the rush? I'm not even a Britt Baker fan but keeping the belt on her until she loses to Thunder Rosa or someone like that is pro wrestling booking 101. The “rush?” You’re kidding right? She’s been champion for 8+ months. The Division has had two champions in the last going on TWO YEARS! And now, it has NOT been good for the division. If she’s so over, then she does not need the belt to stay over. There’s no reason to keep dragging this out. It’s not like she has any interesting other stuff going on. Nor has any opponent been elevated by feuding with her either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 1:37:58 GMT -5
Yes, they pushed her before she was over. She's over NOW though, and that's what matters. I haven't heard the AEW crowd louder for anyone than for her. And yes, other women could very well be the champion also. And maybe they will be. What's the rush? I'm not even a Britt Baker fan but keeping the belt on her until she loses to Thunder Rosa or someone like that is pro wrestling booking 101. The “rush?” You’re kidding right? She’s been champion for 8+ months. The Division has had two champions in the last going on TWO YEARS! And now, it has NOT been good for the division. If she’s so over, then she does not need the belt to stay over. There’s no reason to keep dragging this out. It’s not like she has any interesting other stuff going on. Nor has any opponent been elevated by feuding with her either. 8 months is not too long for a title reign to me. The booking of AEW's women's division has always been shit. Britt Bakers title run isn't the reason for that.
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 10, 2022 4:58:28 GMT -5
Not helping, though.
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Post by clifford on Jan 27, 2022 14:22:13 GMT -5
So last night was just a ten minute victory lap for Britt. 10 minutes of her saying how great she is and how the division is nothing without her with a bit of 'your local sports team sucks' sprinkled in for good measure.
And...nothing happened. No interruption, no new challenger, no furthering of dissention with Jamie Hayter. Just a segment for Britt to gloat.
Talk about the perfect encapsulation of her reign.
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Post by petef3 on Jan 27, 2022 14:26:19 GMT -5
And just to reiterate: the big segment-closing line ("You finally have a Baker you can count on") that everyone giggled at is literally the same line she closed her last promo in Cleveland with. It wasn't even original material. God knows how a non-NFL fan would have reacted to the segment.
I'm just absolutely flabbergasted at how you book a segment with plaques and trophies all over the place and not have them get smashed. Are we going to have a Baker birthday party next where no one smashes the cake?
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Post by rocket on Jan 27, 2022 14:28:44 GMT -5
You know, that plus the fact the women's match before was treated with silence makes this look very WWE in terms of showing who they really care about.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 27, 2022 14:29:21 GMT -5
And just to reiterate: the big segment-closing line ("You finally have a Baker you can count on") that everyone giggled at is literally the same line she closed her last promo in Cleveland with. It wasn't even original material. God knows how a non-NFL fan would have reacted to the segment. I'm just absolutely flabbergasted at how you book a segment with plaques and trophies all over the place and not have them get smashed. Are we going to have a Baker birthday party next where no one smashes the cake? The Adam Cole/Dr. Britt Baker wedding actually goes off without a hitch.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 27, 2022 14:30:56 GMT -5
Yeah, it feels like the wheels are spinning a bit. If it's Ruby vs. Britt or Thunder vs. Britt, it's time to start the build. Last night felt like her first truly, truly directionless moment IMO.
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Post by markymark on Jan 27, 2022 14:37:07 GMT -5
You know, that plus the fact the women's match before was treated with silence makes this look very WWE in terms of showing who they really care about.
Its not Britts fault there is backwards booking with Leyla and Velvet, Leyla shouldve been face and Velvet heel let alone having Leyla cheat and we are supposed to find her threatening vs Kris.
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Post by chrom on Jan 27, 2022 14:42:31 GMT -5
Way to flat out bury the entire division
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Jan 27, 2022 14:43:45 GMT -5
Yeah that promo was a weird one. It's like nobody wanted to stop her cause they were all just like "hmm you know she's got a point about Baker Biscotti..."
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Post by 4real on Jan 27, 2022 14:45:18 GMT -5
So last night was just a ten minute victory lap for Britt. 10 minutes of her saying how great she is and how the division is nothing without her with a bit of 'your local sports team sucks' sprinkled in for good measure. And...nothing happened. No interruption, no new challenger, no furthering of dissention with Jamie Hayter. Just a segment for Britt to gloat. Talk about the perfect encapsulation of her reign. Yeah it was a pointless segment honestly. This segment should have started her Revolution feud off.
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Post by chrom on Jan 27, 2022 14:45:55 GMT -5
You know, that plus the fact the women's match before was treated with silence makes this look very WWE in terms of showing who they really care about. From Day 1 she was the golden girl. Other than Jade, the rest of the girls can f off for all they care
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Post by markymark on Jan 27, 2022 14:50:55 GMT -5
You know, that plus the fact the women's match before was treated with silence makes this look very WWE in terms of showing who they really care about. From Day 1 she was the golden girl.Other than Jade, the rest of the girls can f off for all they care
The biggest what if is if Kylie was always healthy, she mightve gotten the same treatment as Jade and Britt.
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