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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jan 16, 2022 5:32:01 GMT -5
Allen seems like a guy who’d have some, uh, pretty strong opinions about how Christmas “should” be celebrated these days. Whatever the series turns out to be, I bet it won’t be boring. What's the betting we get an episode where people saying "Happy Holidays" drains Santa of his power or something?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 16, 2022 5:48:18 GMT -5
Allen seems like a guy who’d have some, uh, pretty strong opinions about how Christmas “should” be celebrated these days. Whatever the series turns out to be, I bet it won’t be boring. What's the betting we get an episode where people saying "Happy Holidays" drains Santa of his power or something? New piece of the lore, vampires are to garlic as Santa Claus is to Starbucks cups.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 16, 2022 5:57:56 GMT -5
Armand Assante cameo or I'm not interested
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Post by greyfmdan on Jan 17, 2022 2:19:15 GMT -5
This is one of my family’s essential Christmas movies. So we’re looking forward to the series.
And I’ll be honest, I’ve never completely understood the hate the sequels get. I thought the second, while not as good as the first, was a perfectly fine holiday family movie. And while the third has its issues, I’ve always found it watchable enough. But that’s me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 8:55:32 GMT -5
Disney feels very inconsistent.
Like, Gina Carano can't work for them but Tim Allen can.
Either way is fine, I just wish they would take a more firm stance either way. Either the people who work for you can say what they want outside of work, or people can't work there who don't line up with the company's morals. Pick one.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 17, 2022 9:03:15 GMT -5
Disney feels very inconsistent. Like, Gina Carano can't work for them but Tim Allen can. Either way is fine, I just wish they would take a more firm stance either way. Either the people who work for you can say what they want outside of work, or people can't work there who don't line up with the company's morals. Pick one. I mean, for all we can say about Tim Allen’s beliefs, he likely was told by Disney to stop making them public and he listened for the most part because, you know, he wanted to not have his contract run out with a hit sitcom and now this. Gina did not. Thus, they didn’t renew her contract. Like, it’s less about “company morals” and more about “Hey, doing this publicly makes us look bad, stop doing it”.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 9:09:26 GMT -5
Disney feels very inconsistent. Like, Gina Carano can't work for them but Tim Allen can. Either way is fine, I just wish they would take a more firm stance either way. Either the people who work for you can say what they want outside of work, or people can't work there who don't line up with the company's morals. Pick one. I mean, for all we can say about Tim Allen’s beliefs, he likely was told by Disney to stop making them public and he listened for the most part because, you know, he wanted to not have his contract run out with a hit sitcom and now this. Gina did not. Thus, they didn’t renew her contract. Like, it’s less about “company morals” and more about “Hey, doing this publicly makes us look bad, stop doing it”. That's fair, but if Tim Allen says crazy shit on Twitter and doesn't get fired, it will be complete bullshit.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 17, 2022 9:12:54 GMT -5
I mean, for all we can say about Tim Allen’s beliefs, he likely was told by Disney to stop making them public and he listened for the most part because, you know, he wanted to not have his contract run out with a hit sitcom and now this. Gina did not. Thus, they didn’t renew her contract. Like, it’s less about “company morals” and more about “Hey, doing this publicly makes us look bad, stop doing it”. That's fair, but if Tim Allen says crazy shit on Twitter and doesn't get fired, it will be complete bullshit. True, but also Gina never got fired either for her Twitter rants. If anything, they gave her a tonne of rope to pull back, make an apology, delete the tweets, anything. But she didn’t. Like, I can believe Tim would be given that same amount of rope if he went into a days long Twitter tangent in the same way she did and basically dared them to let it expire. Mostly because dude seems at least aware enough that he’d make the most money being asked to come back to voice Buzz Lightyear for 5 minutes.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 17, 2022 13:53:52 GMT -5
I mean, for all we can say about Tim Allen’s beliefs, he likely was told by Disney to stop making them public and he listened for the most part because, you know, he wanted to not have his contract run out with a hit sitcom and now this. Gina did not. Thus, they didn’t renew her contract. Like, it’s less about “company morals” and more about “Hey, doing this publicly makes us look bad, stop doing it”. That's fair, but if Tim Allen says crazy shit on Twitter and doesn't get fired, it will be complete bullshit. Honestly most of the things I’ve read with Allen on social media and in interviews he’s never come across anywhere near as awful as Carano. A lot of things I see attributed to him on social media he never said either. He seems smart enough not to shoot himself in the foot because he knows his deal with Disney over the years has greatly benefitted all involved.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 17, 2022 15:18:10 GMT -5
That's fair, but if Tim Allen says crazy shit on Twitter and doesn't get fired, it will be complete bullshit. Honestly most of the things I’ve read with Allen on social media and in interviews he’s never come across anywhere near as awful as Carano. A lot of things I see attributed to him on social media he never said either. He seems smart enough not to shoot himself in the foot because he knows his deal with Disney over the years has greatly benefitted all involved. To me Tim Allen seems to have the beliefs he does because he is old, white, and rich. Carano just seems hateful and extreme. And wants to fight about it. I dont pay much attention to Allen though so if he has said some truly hateful things then I am wrong.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Jan 17, 2022 17:16:23 GMT -5
You know Tim Allen once trafficked Cocaine.
But 'dere's nuthin' funny 'bout that.
(Beat)
Heheheheheheh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 22:16:08 GMT -5
That's fair, but if Tim Allen says crazy shit on Twitter and doesn't get fired, it will be complete bullshit. Honestly most of the things I’ve read with Allen on social media and in interviews he’s never come across anywhere near as awful as Carano. A lot of things I see attributed to him on social media he never said either. He seems smart enough not to shoot himself in the foot because he knows his deal with Disney over the years has greatly benefitted all involved. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I'm just saying I hole they are consistent with their rules regarding their actors. Long as they are that's cool. I have very different beliefs than Tim Allen but he seems like he's an okay dude.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 17, 2022 22:23:14 GMT -5
And that’s a damn dirty shame. Also, not how Santa works IRL or even by the movies rules. Yeah, don't you need to kill the old Santa to become the new Santa? Is Tim Allen gonna be challenging all these prospective Santa's to battles to the death, Highlander style? I'm pretty sure it was just putting the coat on after Santa died makes you Santa...
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Post by thechase on Mar 7, 2022 6:03:22 GMT -5
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Post by Push R Truth on Mar 7, 2022 10:55:44 GMT -5
This could all be worth it if we get Santa looking directly into the camera and saying "I'm getting to old for this shit" on Disney+
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Mar 7, 2022 12:53:54 GMT -5
Cautiously optimistic. Re-watched the original with my folks on Christmas Eve, still holds up great. The sequels are f***ing terrible At least 2 is tolerable. The Escape Clause is so bad it’s the Citizen Kane of bad Christmas movies.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 7, 2022 13:19:18 GMT -5
Cautiously optimistic. Re-watched the original with my folks on Christmas Eve, still holds up great. The sequels are f***ing terrible At least 2 is tolerable. The Escape Clause is so bad it’s the Citizen Kane of bad Christmas movies. That's a hiiiiigh bar. Deck the Halls and Christmas with the Cranks (and that one's even also Tim Allen!) come immediately to mind and that's not even getting into the subgenre of War on Christmas movies.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Mar 7, 2022 15:18:55 GMT -5
At least 2 is tolerable. The Escape Clause is so bad it’s the Citizen Kane of bad Christmas movies. That's a hiiiiigh bar. Deck the Halls and Christmas with the Cranks (and that one's even also Tim Allen!) come immediately to mind and that's not even getting into the subgenre of War on Christmas movies. War on Christmas- The Godfather Christmas with the Cranks- Shawshank Redemption
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Post by fortknox on Mar 7, 2022 18:56:02 GMT -5
At least 2 is tolerable. The Escape Clause is so bad it’s the Citizen Kane of bad Christmas movies. That's a hiiiiigh bar. Deck the Halls and Christmas with the Cranks (and that one's even also Tim Allen!) come immediately to mind and that's not even getting into the subgenre of War on Christmas movies. And don't forget this
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Post by thechase on Sept 12, 2022 1:33:48 GMT -5
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