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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 23:03:19 GMT -5
I heard you and thought you need some cheering up so here you go.
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asuka007
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 18, 2022 23:06:15 GMT -5
Vince and Bruce trying to book Asian women. Yikes!!
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Post by Chiral on Jan 18, 2022 23:06:59 GMT -5
This company made Tozawa a ninja. This is what they do. The ceiling for Asian wrestlers under the Bruce/Ace control is "comedy midcarder" and it's just so sad.
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Post by mistery on Jan 18, 2022 23:08:35 GMT -5
People like to complain about how African American wrestlers are treated like jokes in WWE, but in reality, they have it significantly better than Asians do right now.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jan 18, 2022 23:11:20 GMT -5
Sarray is so going to be the one who dethrones Mandy, I can just feel it.
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Post by mistery on Jan 18, 2022 23:17:45 GMT -5
Sarray is so going to be the one who dethrones Mandy, I can just feel it. No chance in hell. What will happen is that Mandy will break the pendant, call Sarray a nerd, and then beat her in like 5 minutes. Because goddamnit pal, she needs HEAT!!!!
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jan 18, 2022 23:18:05 GMT -5
If she doesn't become a Battle Royale master idk
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 18, 2022 23:21:22 GMT -5
I feel like this was literally the first attempt at giving her any sort of character other than a nickname and “wrestles good”. Not necessarily a good one, but a first attempt all the same.
I’ll have to see how this changes the in-ring presentation before I definitively put a line through it. If she still has the same wrestling gear, generally wrestles the same… It’s a weird tweak to make, but I’ll live.
If she starts literally wrestling in the schoolgirl gear like Andre Chase does in his college sweater and slacks, then I’ll pull out the Sharpie.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Jan 18, 2022 23:21:32 GMT -5
Who's gonna tell Vince and Bruce that Asian is not a personality.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 18, 2022 23:23:05 GMT -5
There might be a lot of magical girl gimmicks in joshi promotions, and they aren't inherent death sentences, sure, but joshi promotions are also Japanese? Run by and written by Japanese people, and the cultural understanding of their genres and tropes goes a long way in it being a silly thing that plays off of stories that get told and helps angle for the general way that joshi promotions appeal primarily to male fans and otaku in the way that magical girl anime a lot of times are made with an adult male audience in mind. There's a purpose and there's execution and if you said anything in the last sentence to any higher-up in WWE their eyes would glaze over because that's not what they are doing and WWE is so unbelievably not equipped for this. At best we're going to get a superhero character style booking that'll fizzle out after four months, and at worst everyone is going to be taking so many more showers.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 18, 2022 23:26:49 GMT -5
It’s like Bruce and Johnny Ace heard Cornette rant about “aew and their damn Japanese schoolgirls” and thought it was a real thing.
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Post by mistery on Jan 18, 2022 23:32:29 GMT -5
There might be a lot of magical girl gimmicks in joshi promotions, and they aren't inherent death sentences, sure, but joshi promotions are also Japanese? Run by and written by Japanese people, and the cultural understanding of their genres and tropes goes a long way in it being a silly thing that plays off of stories that get told and helps angle for the general way that joshi promotions appeal primarily to male fans and otaku in the way that magical girl anime a lot of times are made with an adult male audience in mind. There's a purpose and there's execution and if you said anything in the last sentence to any higher-up in WWE their eyes would glaze over because that's not what they are doing and WWE is so unbelievably not equipped for this. At best we're going to get a superhero character style booking that'll fizzle out after four months, and at worst everyone is going to be taking so many more showers. Let me put it this way. The super hero gimmick is insanely dumb and is like lower midcard. But considering Nikki ASH was the last gimmick and she absolutely flopped, there is probably still a market for it somewhere. The only thing they need to do is not give Sarray a stupid outfit and also let her actually win matches decisively, instead of Nikki who had to fluke into everything.
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 18, 2022 23:39:17 GMT -5
Ohhh boy. This has the potential to get really bad, really fast. I'm not going to rip WWE quite yet because we haven't seen the full extent of the gimmick and that's not fair (despite WWE's track record.) But infantizing and reducing a Japanese woman to a schoolgirl is a major red flag. It's not just a dumb gimmick, but one that gets way too close to racist tropes. I really hope the gimmick is more than that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 23:52:23 GMT -5
I gotta see where this leads. If it's a magical girl gimmick then that'll be dope and actually unique for this company. If it's not and is just a Japanese schoolgirl then it'll be horrible.
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Post by chrom on Jan 18, 2022 23:56:24 GMT -5
Oh, it can't be that bad.
...My eyes are bleeding
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 19, 2022 0:02:32 GMT -5
They want so desperately to be seen as mainstream. Yet, their default is to appeal to the lowest common denominator in nearly every circumstance.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jan 19, 2022 0:17:46 GMT -5
I gotta see where this leads. If it's a magical girl gimmick then that'll be dope and actually unique for this company. If it's not and is just a Japanese schoolgirl then it'll be horrible. Someone on a different board just lost his shit because he believes Sarray is Yugi because she has her own Millenium Puzzle.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 19, 2022 0:19:39 GMT -5
Considering that Jim Ross had to tell Vince that Asian porn existed in order to get Gail Kim hired (Vince could not understand that Western men could find Asian women attractive). Yeah I have ZERO faith that this will go well.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 19, 2022 1:50:35 GMT -5
NXT 2.0 feels like they made Saturday Morning Slam with all the fun sucked out of it.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 19, 2022 1:55:27 GMT -5
How much nearly every single new women's gimmick in NXT is clearly just playing on someone's fetish is really goddamn gross.
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