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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 6, 2022 19:22:50 GMT -5
I'm a sucker for this stuff, so might as well make a thread about it.
We're two episodes in so far. Judges are Warhorse, Edith Surreal, and Matt Tremont, who are all actually very funny together, though a little Warhorse goes a long way.
The masks have evolved into outright costumes, which helpfully give the wrestlers personas, though some look kinda annoying to wrestle in. Episode 1 featured a terrible match... the winner was a scarecrow and so was playing the character of this hyperflexible submissions expert, and the loser, Janai Kai, refused to do any kickboxing to "protect her identity" and thus had no offense left for her to do.
Episode 2 was much better: a beefy, sneaky, 55 year-old luchador (or, I hope, someone in their 20s pretending to be that) controlling the match, with nice little hope spots from his smaller, younger opponent. The unmasked wrestler was Ashton Starr, who I am not very familiar with, but who came off well in his interview. (And it's a neat sign that there are enough black lgbt wrestlers for all the judges to guess wrong).
Guesses for the winners:
MAZE: Jesus, I don't know, they were all acting like a scarecrow. Travis Huckabee? AKIRA? Jordan Blade?
EL GATO BLANCO: They were leaning hard on it being La Parka, which means it's not. I'm gonna say the luchador thing is a fake-out. It's... Joe E. Legend.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Feb 6, 2022 22:40:54 GMT -5
I just turned on Pluto tv wrestling channel and saw this on. Wish I knew about it earlier would have been fun to watch.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 7, 2022 0:57:11 GMT -5
I think it might make this a bit easier if we record the two truths and a lie bits, because it might make it easier to narrow down the identities of the masked wrestlers.
Gaia Terra Janai Kai: Trained by Damian Adams. Gets a kick out of Adam Sandler movies. Well-rounded when it comes to music.
Maze: (Additional hint: Been a professional wrestler for five years.) Hates birds. Excellent swimmer. Travels all over the US as a badass.
Jesterclops Ashton Starr: Auditioned for American Idol. Believe that Oprah will kill them. Has 24 tattoos.
El Gato Blanco: (Additional hints: Been a professional wrestler for many decades. Not the first time behind a mask.) Has been to a Wham! concert. Spent more years wrestling in Europe than the USA. Has been a AAA champion.
Wallflower Cole Radrick: (Additional hint: Over six years as a wrestler.) Owns a pro wrestling promotion. Drives cars for money. Best friends with a rodent.
R.A.L.P.H.: (Additional hints: Been a wrestler around two years. Primarily wrestles for IWA: Mid-South.) First girlfriend was a cash register. Favorite movie is Robocop. Could not convincingly lie about having a big dick, due to the Laws of Robotics.
Prince Nemo Mysterious Q: Claims to be "The Whole F'N Show." Trained by "wrestling royalty." Hates fish sticks.
Big Vlad Dyln McKay: Is straight edge. Used to work for a major wrestling promotion. Partakes in cliff-diving.
My guess for Maze is AJ Gray, but I am not confident on this one. Thinking about El Gato Blanco and the hints provided, as well as the wrestler's general build, I think the AAA champion part is a lie, and it's Big Damo fka Killain Dain and the mask he is referencing was his entrance attire during SAnitY.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 7, 2022 18:11:23 GMT -5
I think it might make this a bit easier if we record the two truths and a lie bits, because it might make it easier to narrow down the identities of the masked wrestlers. Gaia Terra Janai Kai: Trained by Damian Adams. Gets a kick out of Adam Sandler movies. Well-rounded when it comes to music. Maze: (Additional hint: Been a professional wrestler for five years.) Hates birds. Excellent swimmer. Travels all over the US as a badass. Jesterclops Ashton Starr: Auditioned for American Idol. Believe that Oprah will kill them. Has 24 tattoos.El Gato Blanco: (Additional hints: Been a professional wrestler for many decades. Not the first time behind a mask.) Has been to a Wham! concert. Spent more years wrestling in Europe than the USA. Has been a AAA champion. My guess for Maze is AJ Gray, but I am not confident on this one. Thinking about El Gato Blanco and the hints provided, as well as the wrestler's general build, I think the AAA champion part is a lie, and it's Big Damo fka Killain Dain and the mask he is referencing was his entrance attire during SAnitY. They also said several times Maze is from the midwest, but I dunno if it was meant to be a clue or not. I feel like AJ Gray is a little bigger than Maze. Darius Lockhart came to mind for me, too. Both are about the level of star to reach the finals or win, and I wouldn't be surprised if either was in the tournament. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 9, 2022 19:13:52 GMT -5
So, Wallflower is totally obvious if you know the guy. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}It's Cole Radrick, and I'd be surprised to find out otherwise. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 9, 2022 21:48:37 GMT -5
I feel like people are in two very polar camps regarding that episode, but I loved it. Very silly, but very fun. Wallflower was not a guy I was very familiar with, but he impressed me... he remembered to always act like punching the metal face hurt his hand, and his body language really sold the comedy but also the reality of a guy stuck in this ridiculous situation. This show does a good job of making me notice and like indie wrestlers I've known about but not paid much attention to.
RALPH's really good too, because they've got this robot character but also this innocent yokel character, and snapping into the latter from the former is reliably hilarious.
Background info (all probably lies): Only been wrestling for two years, mostly for IWA Mid-South. Matt Tremont scares them.
Two truths and a lie: Their first girlfriend was a cash register. Robocop is their favorite movie. They have a large (penis).
I kinda think this might actually be Nick Gage.
If the two-years experience thing is true, I have no clue who it might be. Max Zero? Max the Impaler? ...someone not named Max?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 9, 2022 22:57:13 GMT -5
I feel like people are in two very polar camps regarding that episode, but I loved it. Very silly, but very fun. Wallflower was not a guy I was very familiar with, but he impressed me... he remembered to always act like punching the metal face hurt his hand, and his body language really sold the comedy but also the reality of a guy stuck in this ridiculous situation. This show does a good job of making me notice and like indie wrestlers I've known about but not paid much attention to. RALPH's really good too, because they've got this robot character but also this innocent yokel character, and snapping into the latter from the former is reliably hilarious. Background info (all probably lies): Only been wrestling for two years, mostly for IWA Mid-South. Matt Tremont scares them. Two truths and a lie: Their first girlfriend was a cash register. Robocop is their favorite movie. They have a large (penis). I kinda think this might actually be Nick Gage. If the two-years experience thing is true, I have no clue who it might be. Max Zero? Max the Impaler? ...someone not named Max? RALPH also said he hadn't really worked outside of IWA Mid South, which I will take at face value. I haven't been following much of IWA:MS, so I have no idea. I called Cole Radrick pretty easily though. The truth about him earning a living driving his car was a huge hint, and then I saw his build and I knew it was him. I even looked at Cagematch, and sure enough, he has six years of experience. EDIT: It could be Justin Kyle. The body type roughly matches (if RALPH seemed a bit bigger, I'd be more confident), the experience level seems to match, he's a deathmatch guy so him beating a GCW regular in a hardcore matches makes sense, and his first results on ProFightDB are at IWA:MS. However, he's way more well known for his ICW:NHB work. Also, I've heard he might be a former cop from Detroit, so I am looking at the Robocop love as a hint. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 16, 2022 19:54:13 GMT -5
Another episode down, and Tremont finally gets a point because he trained the person that got eliminated.
Now, this fish wanted us to think he's RVD, but then proceeded to use a bunch of suplexes, and even busted out Shane Mercer's Moonsault and Battery, but I don't think it's Mercer. That would finish the opponent if it's Mercer. I think it's "The Suplex Assassin" Alex Kane, but either way, it's someone really strong with a good amount of technique. If it's not Alex Kane, I would default to Kevin Ku.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 16, 2022 22:04:06 GMT -5
Another episode down, and Tremont finally gets a point because he trained the person that got eliminated. Now, this fish wanted us to think he's RVD, but then proceeded to use a bunch of suplexes, and even busted out Shane Mercer's Moonsault and Battery, but I don't think it's Mercer. That would finish the opponent if it's Mercer. I think it's "The Suplex Assassin" Alex Kane, but either way, it's someone really strong with a good amount of technique. If it's not Alex Kane, I would default to Kevin Ku. Kevin Ku definitely came to my mind, but I thiiiiink he's not as big as Nemo is? Alex Kane is a great guess; I didn't think of him and a lot fits. The most distinctive thing Nemo did was a CIMA uppercut to Vlad, sitting on the top rope. That was a TIGHT move, and I bet he does it regularly in matches. I know I've seen people do that, but I can't think of who. I was 0% familiar with the person who got eliminated, but beautiful shooting star. I thought the match was quite good, despite a couple of flubs (that reverse hurricanrana looked scary) which both wrestlers recovered from well. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 16, 2022 22:24:45 GMT -5
Another episode down, and Tremont finally gets a point because he trained the person that got eliminated. Now, this fish wanted us to think he's RVD, but then proceeded to use a bunch of suplexes, and even busted out Shane Mercer's Moonsault and Battery, but I don't think it's Mercer. That would finish the opponent if it's Mercer. I think it's "The Suplex Assassin" Alex Kane, but either way, it's someone really strong with a good amount of technique. If it's not Alex Kane, I would default to Kevin Ku. Kevin Ku definitely came to my mind, but I thiiiiink he's not as big as Nemo is? Alex Kane is a great guess; I didn't think of him and a lot fits. The most distinctive thing Nemo did was a CIMA uppercut to Vlad, sitting on the top rope. That was a TIGHT move, and I bet he does it regularly in matches. I know I've seen people do that, but I can't think of who. Shane Mercer, Kevin Ku, and Alex Kane are all billed as 5'11, so both Ku and Kane are just tall enough to try to masquerade as Mercer. Also bear in mind that Dyln McKay is really short, which is something to bear in mind if you are trying to get a feel for his size. Of course, Alex Kane has already denied being Nemo on Twitter (we are mutuals, so he saw my tweet guessing it), but that could itself be a lie. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 16, 2022 23:24:57 GMT -5
Kevin Ku definitely came to my mind, but I thiiiiink he's not as big as Nemo is? Alex Kane is a great guess; I didn't think of him and a lot fits. The most distinctive thing Nemo did was a CIMA uppercut to Vlad, sitting on the top rope. That was a TIGHT move, and I bet he does it regularly in matches. I know I've seen people do that, but I can't think of who. Shane Mercer, Kevin Ku, and Alex Kane are all billed as 5'11, so both Ku and Kane are just tall enough to try to masquerade as Mercer. Also bear in mind that Dyln McKay is really short, which is something to bear in mind if you are trying to get a feel for his size. Of course, Alex Kane has already denied being Nemo on Twitter (we are mutuals, so he saw my tweet guessing it), but that could itself be a lie. Just looks thicker than Ku, who's pretty slender. Of the three you've mentioned, Mercer has the closest body type, from what I could see. But they did wrestle like Ku wrestling a power style, if that makes sense. Makowski also came to mind; he's similar to Ku in his quick agility moments... but he's also similar to Ku in terms of body proportions, so. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 16, 2022 23:35:04 GMT -5
Shane Mercer, Kevin Ku, and Alex Kane are all billed as 5'11, so both Ku and Kane are just tall enough to try to masquerade as Mercer. Also bear in mind that Dyln McKay is really short, which is something to bear in mind if you are trying to get a feel for his size. Of course, Alex Kane has already denied being Nemo on Twitter (we are mutuals, so he saw my tweet guessing it), but that could itself be a lie. Just looks thicker than Ku, who's pretty slender. Of the three you've mentioned, Mercer has the closest body type, from what I could see. But they did wrestle like Ku wrestling a power style, if that makes sense. Makowski also came to mind; he's similar to Ku in his quick agility moments... but he's also similar to Ku in terms of body proportions, so. Mercer is of course the closest, but again, he is not letting his finish get kicked out of under scenario in a goofy Masked Singer tournament. That's how I know it's not him. Makowski is an interesting choice, but given the events currently going on surrounding the IWTV title, it just doesn't make a ton of sense when he's already in line for a title shot (as long as he's willing to travel to the Southeast) and has possession of Marcus Mathers's Copyright in the Bank briefcase for an IWTV tile match. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 17, 2022 15:08:06 GMT -5
Kevin Ku definitely came to my mind, but I thiiiiink he's not as big as Nemo is? Alex Kane is a great guess; I didn't think of him and a lot fits. The most distinctive thing Nemo did was a CIMA uppercut to Vlad, sitting on the top rope. That was a TIGHT move, and I bet he does it regularly in matches. I know I've seen people do that, but I can't think of who. Shane Mercer, Kevin Ku, and Alex Kane are all billed as 5'11, so both Ku and Kane are just tall enough to try to masquerade as Mercer. Also bear in mind that Dyln McKay is really short, which is something to bear in mind if you are trying to get a feel for his size. Of course, Alex Kane has already denied being Nemo on Twitter (we are mutuals, so he saw my tweet guessing it), but that could itself be a lie. Speaking of Mercer, what if it's KTB again? The "on the Masked Wrestler, I'm the whole f'n show" might be referencing he's on both seasons. Also thought of a longshot: Matt Lee? Pretty sure I've seen him move like that... but I'm not sure he's capable of some of those highspots. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 23, 2022 23:43:08 GMT -5
Episode 5 is in the books, and Prince Nemo turned out to be Mysterious Q.
I should have figured it out that the "wrestling royalty" was King Booker T.
Also, neither Ashton Starr or Mysterious Q could say who El Gato Blanco was, which supports my theory of him being an outsider to the IWTV scene.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 24, 2022 0:22:06 GMT -5
Episode 5 is in the books, and Prince Nemo turned out to be Mysterious Q. I should have figured it out that the "wrestling royalty" was King Booker T. I didn't think Mysterious Q was that solidly built, but it makes a lot of sense in retrospect. I was gonna throw in JTG as my final guess, myself. I was using the previous season as a heuristic, where the people I remember were the indie guys who were just everywhere: Yuta, Moriarty, and Deppen. But when I glance at Cagematch, McKay and Radrick and YoKai and to a lesser extent Q are all working a million shows, but I didn't have a perception of that for any of them but Radrick. Guess it just feels like the context of indie wrestling has changed a lot in a single year. Anyway, I think it is very likely we end up with a RALPH v Gato finals, with the wily sneak desperately trying to solve the problem of the murder robot (who is also a credulous yokel) and it should be very fun. I still have no earthly idea who Gato is. ......Grado? |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 24, 2022 1:24:23 GMT -5
Episode 5 is in the books, and Prince Nemo turned out to be Mysterious Q. I should have figured it out that the "wrestling royalty" was King Booker T. I didn't think Mysterious Q was that solidly built, but it makes a lot of sense in retrospect. I was gonna throw in JTG as my final guess, myself. I was using the previous season as a heuristic, where the people I remember were the indie guys who were just everywhere: Yuta, Moriarty, and Deppen. But when I glance at Cagematch, McKay and Radrick and YoKai and to a lesser extent Q are all working a million shows, but I didn't have a perception of that for any of them but Radrick. Guess it just feels like the context of indie wrestling has changed a lot in a single year. Anyway, I think it is very likely we end up with a RALPH v Gato finals, with the wily sneak desperately trying to solve the problem of the murder robot (who is also a credulous yokel) and it should be very fun. I still have no earthly idea who Gato is. ......Grado? I'm standing by my Big Damo pick. Gato is a bit taller than Q, and it tracks for their billed height (6'2 vs. 6'4). I also know Damo is going to be in the US for Mania week, as he confirmed he will be on BLP's Collective show, which at least signals intent if I am right about this being a BritWres guy. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 24, 2022 3:28:30 GMT -5
I didn't think Mysterious Q was that solidly built, but it makes a lot of sense in retrospect. I was gonna throw in JTG as my final guess, myself. I was using the previous season as a heuristic, where the people I remember were the indie guys who were just everywhere: Yuta, Moriarty, and Deppen. But when I glance at Cagematch, McKay and Radrick and YoKai and to a lesser extent Q are all working a million shows, but I didn't have a perception of that for any of them but Radrick. Guess it just feels like the context of indie wrestling has changed a lot in a single year. Anyway, I think it is very likely we end up with a RALPH v Gato finals, with the wily sneak desperately trying to solve the problem of the murder robot (who is also a credulous yokel) and it should be very fun. I still have no earthly idea who Gato is. ......Grado? I'm standing by my Big Damo pick. Gato is a bit taller than Q, and it tracks for their billed height (6'2 vs. 6'4). I also know Damo is going to be in the US for Mania week, as he confirmed he will be on BLP's Collective show, which at least signals intent if I am right about this being a BritWres guy. That would actually be fantastic booking, if he ends up winning. Mack (or whoever) prepares to go up against the 60 year-old luchador with bad knees, and then the match starts and Damo suddenly drops the character. I just feel like Damo's bigger than that, both height and girth. Man, I dunno, maybe they somehow actually did get Damian 666 or whoever to come up and participate (and then get him to work with a voice coach to make his own Mexican accent sound fake). Also shoutout to Edie for trying to get her friends some exposure with her wrong guesses, and the opposite of a shoutout to the production team for not doing a second take when the host doesn't know who it is. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 24, 2022 4:00:25 GMT -5
Also shoutout to Edie for trying to get her friends some exposure with her wrong guesses, and the opposite of a shoutout to the production team for not doing a second take when the host doesn't know who it is. Edith definitely seems to be trending towards picking Chikara/Leapfrog brethren when she doesn't know who it is, while Tremont seems to think the whole line-up is H2O students (which worked out for him when it was Dyln McKay under the mask) |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 2, 2022 20:10:20 GMT -5
Episode is over, and Maze was unmasked as {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Trish Adora Now THERE'S your "indie wrestler clearly on the rise who shows up everywhere" Wheeler-Yuta-level kind of talent. The robot is still hilarious, which is lucky because this show is going ALL IN on the robot thing. There's no way this wrestler is actually a rookie with one year of experience; not with this booking (and not with their excellent character work). It might not actually outright be Gage, but I bet it is some huge name. Like Tom Lawlor or Anthony Greene or Effy or someone. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 9, 2022 22:39:59 GMT -5
Show's over, and El Gato Blanco was delightfully revealed as {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Gangrel Makes a huge amount of sense in retrospect, and he comes off as a delightful and pleasant person in the post match interview. Warhorse makes the stipulation, and it sets up a really interesting situation for Mack, which he's already started complaining about on Twitter. RALPH is a bizarre choice for the winner, but the character really is hilarious: a naive yokel innocent who can snap into being a killer cyborg (or maybe a killer cyborg who's been programmed to also act like a naive yokel). Given the stipulation, I seriously think it's some huge deathmatch star, like G-Raver or somebody. (I did see a couple of people guessing Dan Barry, too, which... maybe.) |
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