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Post by flowercity on Feb 24, 2022 13:20:53 GMT -5
Wrestling is about $$$. Jade is $$$. She is a proven television draw this early into her career. Sacrificing her winning streak and her aura for a Tay Conti victory would be booking malpractice. Giving her a title when she's nowhere near ready is booking malpractice. Tay is also a big TV draw and has a bigger following than Jade. And is much, MUCH better in the ring If you can point me to the facts and figures that say Tay is a big TV draw, anywhere near the level of Jade, I will concede my point.
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Post by holyshida on Feb 24, 2022 13:22:51 GMT -5
Imagine calling someone like Tay "a glorified jobber" with a 84,6 % win in AEW. Tay had a mediocre match against Britt. She need a good showing against Jade, winning or losing, to be considered a future top star nearly all of those wins have been on Dark. When was the last match she won on Dynamite. Also her match with Britt was one of Britts best matches during her title reign and that was mostly because of Tay who outshined her. She's also had top showings against Shida and the street fight. She was also recently voted most improved wrestler of 2021. Not sure what more proof you need that she's a top star
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Post by holyshida on Feb 24, 2022 13:24:02 GMT -5
Giving her a title when she's nowhere near ready is booking malpractice. Tay is also a big TV draw and has a bigger following than Jade. And is much, MUCH better in the ring If you can point me to the facts and figures that say Tay is a big TV draw, anywhere near the level of Jade, I will concede my point. her match with Shida got over 1.2 million views.
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Post by dbrussel on Feb 24, 2022 13:24:32 GMT -5
Imagine calling someone like Tay "a glorified jobber" with a 84,6 % win in AEW. Tay had a mediocre match against Britt. She need a good showing against Jade, winning or losing, to be considered a future top star nearly all of those wins have been on Dark. When was the last match she won on Dynamite. Also her match with Britt was one of Britts best matches during her title reign and that was mostly because of Tay who outshined her. She's also had top showings against Shida and the street fight. She was also recently voted most improved wrestler of 2021. Not sure what more proof you need that she's a top star The bunny outshined her lmao Britt had better matches in her run. Statlander, Riho, and some non titles to list a few
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Post by holyshida on Feb 24, 2022 13:28:51 GMT -5
nearly all of those wins have been on Dark. When was the last match she won on Dynamite. Also her match with Britt was one of Britts best matches during her title reign and that was mostly because of Tay who outshined her. She's also had top showings against Shida and the street fight. She was also recently voted most improved wrestler of 2021. Not sure what more proof you need that she's a top star The bunny outshined her lmao Britt had better matches in her run. Statlander, Riho, and some non titles to list a few Which is why I said one of her better matches, that was on Tay. Tay was great in that street fight, as were all 4 in that match. I don't think anyone outshined anyone
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffinβs Story on Feb 24, 2022 13:41:01 GMT -5
Can we not turn the Revolution thread into yet another Tay/Jade/Anna Jay debate? Jesus.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 24, 2022 13:49:39 GMT -5
Tay is fine as a challenger as she is over and credible.
I said in another thread but I don't think Jade has been as bad as some make her out to be. The Rosa match was a little rough but I felt it added to the brawl feel, but the Ruby match was bad. Otherwise? Some botched but nothing I'd consider awful.
And of course... Jade is over too. So no problem with 2 over people fighting
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 24, 2022 18:20:56 GMT -5
Can we not turn the Revolution thread into yet another Tay/Jade/Anna Jay debate? Jesus. This, if there's any debate I'm tired of on this Board, it's this one. It bleeds into every thread somehow along with Baker/Rosa discourse for good measure.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 26, 2022 1:21:41 GMT -5
The ladder match will feature 7 wrestlers so we have two more to go. Likely one is going to be a surprise and they have a long list of potential guys they could bring in.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 26, 2022 2:15:42 GMT -5
The ladder match will feature 7 wrestlers so we have two more to go. Likely one is going to be a surprise and they have a long list of potential guys they could bring in. Tony's got some new theme rights to secure... SWISS. MONEY.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 28, 2022 3:20:01 GMT -5
Card looks stacked on paper.
Which probably means it'll be an awful show.
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Post by clifford on Feb 28, 2022 9:43:12 GMT -5
Card looks stacked on paper. Which probably means it'll be an awful show. Last two PPVs have also been really stacked on paper and they delivered. I don't think this one can reach the heights of All Out (with Punk's return match and all the debuts) or Full Gear (5 genuine world class matches and the culmination of the best longterm feud in AEW yet) but it should be right up there.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Feb 28, 2022 12:12:51 GMT -5
Card looks stacked on paper. Which probably means it'll be an awful show. Last two PPVs have also been really stacked on paper and they delivered. I don't think this one can reach the heights of All Out (with Punk's return match and all the debuts) or Full Gear (5 genuine world class matches and the culmination of the best longterm feud in AEW yet) but it should be right up there. To me, itβs gonna be a long time before they ever have a show that was as historic and huge as All Out last year. Thatβs a truly special show. So no matter how Revolution goes, it probably wonβt be fair to compare it to that show, and maybe even Full Gear. But I have no doubt that this show will be awesome.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 28, 2022 17:02:46 GMT -5
Card looks stacked on paper. Which probably means it'll be an awful show. It's gonna be hard to be better than All Out as a whole, but that was as stacked as Revolution was on Paper, and so was Double or Nothing, and they were great shows So... don't get the mentality here that they're setting themselves up to underdeliver. Even last years Revolution was a good show... the ending was the problem, and they don't have that issue this year lmfao
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 28, 2022 17:18:19 GMT -5
Tay is fine as a challenger as she is over and credible. I said in another thread but I don't think Jade has been as bad as some make her out to be. The Rosa match was a little rough but I felt it added to the brawl feel, but the Ruby match was bad. Otherwise? Some botched but nothing I'd consider awful. And of course... Jade is over too. So no problem with 2 over people fighting Only problem is it's putting Tay in yet another title match she's not going to win, assuming it's on the PPV. No way Jade is losing the title this soon especially after a two week build. If you keep having Tay lose all these title it just makes her look like a choke artist who can't get the job done when it counts. It's too bad because she's someone who I think could be a really big star but for whatever reason AEW doesn't ever want to go all the way with her. It seems like she just pads her win total by beating jobbers for months and then gets a title shot and loses and then rinse and repeat.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 28, 2022 18:50:34 GMT -5
Tay is fine as a challenger as she is over and credible. I said in another thread but I don't think Jade has been as bad as some make her out to be. The Rosa match was a little rough but I felt it added to the brawl feel, but the Ruby match was bad. Otherwise? Some botched but nothing I'd consider awful. And of course... Jade is over too. So no problem with 2 over people fighting Only problem is it's putting Tay in yet another title match she's not going to win, assuming it's on the PPV. No way Jade is losing the title this soon especially after a two week build. If you keep having Tay lose all these title it just makes her look like a choke artist who can't get the job done when it counts. It's too bad because she's someone who I think could be a really big star but for whatever reason AEW doesn't ever want to go all the way with her. It seems like she just pads her win total by beating jobbers for months and then gets a title shot and loses and then rinse and repeat. She's had two title shots her entire run, NWA Women's Title and one Women's Title match. I don't think even if she loses she should be considered a "choke artist", but at the same time, you can play this into an easy storyline down the road if Tay loses in the fact she can't "win the big one" and then eventually does. Worked well for Darby.
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Post by agent817 on Mar 1, 2022 1:58:38 GMT -5
I am going to be watching this on the big screen. This will be my second wrestling PPV that I will see at a movie theater.
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Post by Blade on Mar 1, 2022 16:31:48 GMT -5
Only problem is it's putting Tay in yet another title match she's not going to win, assuming it's on the PPV. No way Jade is losing the title this soon especially after a two week build. If you keep having Tay lose all these title it just makes her look like a choke artist who can't get the job done when it counts. It's too bad because she's someone who I think could be a really big star but for whatever reason AEW doesn't ever want to go all the way with her. It seems like she just pads her win total by beating jobbers for months and then gets a title shot and loses and then rinse and repeat. On the one hand, this is just how Tony books. In the tag, world, and TNT title scenes, people take decisive losses to the champ more often than not. Lucha Brothers were talked about here as always losing the big one, but then they didn't. Tay will be fine if they ever seriously want to push her. She's pretty clearly presented as a level above Ford and Bunny, for instance. On the other hand, this is just how Tony books, and it's a problem because we've just had a year of random challenger-of-the-month gets a week or two of buildup and then loses to dominant heel champion, and if the only difference with Jade is that she leans more tweenerish and there's more Discourse about her matches, I'm not really enthused. Despite slow improvement, there still needs to be someone with more interest in it helping with the booking of the women's division.
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Post by flowercity on Mar 1, 2022 19:53:29 GMT -5
I am going to be watching this on the big screen. This will be my second wrestling PPV that I will see at a movie theater. Ive always wanted to do that. But I like rewatching too much, and canβt forbid myself to pay for both. What chain does it by you?
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Post by agent817 on Mar 1, 2022 21:09:33 GMT -5
I am going to be watching this on the big screen. This will be my second wrestling PPV that I will see at a movie theater. Ive always wanted to do that. But I like rewatching too much, and canβt forbid myself to pay for both. What chain does it by you? Cinemark. I could probably rewatch it if I get a DVD down the road.
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