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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 25, 2022 23:09:34 GMT -5
I know it's gauche to say here, but they need to have Danhausen doing actual promos on these shows instead of this preaching-to-the-choir stuff that a giant chunk of the audience has no clue about. Doesn't every arena he goes to cheer the f*** out of him? Like they seem to understand what Danhausen is about I'm sure he's gonna cut on air promos eventually, but he's all over their Twitter, their Youtube, etc, cutting promos and being generally around, so it's not like it's actively hard to figure this out, nor is Danhausen himself
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Post by petef3 on Feb 25, 2022 23:14:57 GMT -5
I know it's gauche to say here, but they need to have Danhausen doing actual promos on these shows instead of this preaching-to-the-choir stuff that a giant chunk of the audience has no clue about. Doesn't every arena he goes to cheer the f*** out of him? Like they seem to understand what Danhausen is about I'm sure he's gonna cut on air promos eventually, but he's all over their Twitter, their Youtube, etc, cutting promos and being generally around, so it's not like it's actively hard to figure this out, nor is Danhausen himself I said specifically that he needs to be cutting promos on TV. And yes, he's over with the paying audience--i.e., the most devoted fans. I'm talking about the people who are watching on TV who aren't necessarily living their lives on AEW Twitter and paying to see shows.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Feb 25, 2022 23:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by kimrey on Feb 25, 2022 23:35:56 GMT -5
Made my AEW tv debut tonight when OC came to the ring, he stopped to tap my foam thumb.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 25, 2022 23:38:43 GMT -5
Doesn't every arena he goes to cheer the f*** out of him? Like they seem to understand what Danhausen is about I'm sure he's gonna cut on air promos eventually, but he's all over their Twitter, their Youtube, etc, cutting promos and being generally around, so it's not like it's actively hard to figure this out, nor is Danhausen himself I said specifically that he needs to be cutting promos on TV. And yes, he's over with the paying audience--i.e., the most devoted fans. I'm talking about the people who are watching on TV who aren't necessarily living their lives on AEW Twitter and paying to see shows. He will, probably when he's more ready to return to ring which seems to be getting closer But until he's actively detracting from the show or something, I don't think it's an issue at all, he's been moving the needle more often than not which means viewers aren't being turned off by him, and seem to get him. I don't know if a large chunk actively doesn't at this point. You don't need to live your life on Twitter to see the promos or stuff, and they're also on their Youtube, it's just not hard to get Danhausen, not even factoring in his own Youtube channel.
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Post by petef3 on Feb 25, 2022 23:44:45 GMT -5
How can you tell that Danhausen is "moving the needle"? None of his appearances have been advertised--you can't give him credit for ratings after the fact.
He's not actually DOING anything--the people who know who he is get the "curses," but to a LOT of the viewing audience, he just shows up and points at people and leaves. Maybe if he actually did some promos on TV that would actually get these people to seek him out more on YouTube. As it is, it's just kind of lazy, preaching-to-the-choir booking which TK is too often prone to doing.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 25, 2022 23:50:43 GMT -5
How can you tell that Danhausen is "moving the needle"? None of his appearances have been advertised--you can't give him credit for ratings after the fact. He's not actually DOING anything--the people who know who he is get the "curses," but to a LOT of the viewing audience, he just shows up and points at people and leaves. Maybe if he actually did some promos on TV that would actually get these people to seek him out more on YouTube. As it is, it's just kind of lazy, preaching-to-the-choir booking which TK is too often prone to doing. Danhausen hasn't actively NEEDED to do anything yet. His segments are well received, he gets a ton of views online, he doesn't CHASE viewers, and he literally split a crowd vs Jon Moxley by literally just being outside the ring I think this is making a mountain out of a molehill. The dude is limited right now due to a leg injury, so they're probably waiting to thrust him into feuds and promos, but they want to put him out there and on TV in fun ways because so far it's worked. Every time it gets a pop. If anyone doesn't know who Danhausen is, I don't know why they wouldn't hear those pops and see all those crowd signs and painted faces like tonight, and actively not just google the name... but more is obviously coming soon with him, so it's whatever. It's not lazy if it works.
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Post by petef3 on Feb 25, 2022 23:52:16 GMT -5
How can you tell that Danhausen is "moving the needle"? None of his appearances have been advertised--you can't give him credit for ratings after the fact. He's not actually DOING anything--the people who know who he is get the "curses," but to a LOT of the viewing audience, he just shows up and points at people and leaves. Maybe if he actually did some promos on TV that would actually get these people to seek him out more on YouTube. As it is, it's just kind of lazy, preaching-to-the-choir booking which TK is too often prone to doing. Danhausen hasn't actively NEEDED to do anything yet. His segments are well received, he gets a ton of views online, he doesn't CHASE viewers, and he literally split a crowd vs Jon Moxley by literally just being outside the ring I think this is making a mountain out of a molehill. The dude is limited right now due to a leg injury, so they're probably waiting to thrust him into feuds and promos, but they want to put him out there and on TV in fun ways because so far it's worked. Every time it gets a pop. If anyone doesn't know who Danhausen is, I don't know why they wouldn't hear those pops and see all those crowd signs and painted faces like tonight, and actively not just google the name... but more is obviously coming soon with him, so it's whatever. It's not lazy if it works. If it doesn't come, will you admit to being wrong for once? The fact that Danhausen is still on the shelf seems like *more* reason to be having him do vignettes on TV, not less. Give him a few weeks to get his character over, then maybe a few more weeks to build up to his first actual match.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 26, 2022 0:00:45 GMT -5
Danhausen hasn't actively NEEDED to do anything yet. His segments are well received, he gets a ton of views online, he doesn't CHASE viewers, and he literally split a crowd vs Jon Moxley by literally just being outside the ring I think this is making a mountain out of a molehill. The dude is limited right now due to a leg injury, so they're probably waiting to thrust him into feuds and promos, but they want to put him out there and on TV in fun ways because so far it's worked. Every time it gets a pop. If anyone doesn't know who Danhausen is, I don't know why they wouldn't hear those pops and see all those crowd signs and painted faces like tonight, and actively not just google the name... but more is obviously coming soon with him, so it's whatever. It's not lazy if it works. If it doesn't come, will you admit to being wrong for once?The fact that Danhausen is still on the shelf seems like *more* reason to be having him do vignettes on TV, not less. Give him a few weeks to get his character over, then maybe a few more weeks to build up to his first actual match. I don't see how I have to admit anything when it's my opinion. You stood by your own bad takes in other threads despite all the people who told you how wrong and how disgusting it was. I don't see how I owe you anything tbh for saying that Danhausen's fine, over, and being used well right now despite being hurt, and I don't think it needs to be rushed, the audience has proven that in their pops. But Danhausen has big crossover appeal, and I'd be absolutely stunned if he never cuts promos or does anything beyond showing up. Pretty sure he has an immediate built in feud with the Ass Boys when he's cleared, which would undoubtedly lead to plenty of promos. And again, he's done multiple vignettes and appearances on Youtube and on Twitter, and these are not difficult to seek out, his promo and vignette time will come, but again by crowd reactions, he hasn't needed it just yet. I get you can call the people who buy tickets "diehards", but that's still like 4000-6000 average as the attendance has been, going batshit for the guy and he's barely done anything yet, that's telling, and it shows the audience at home he's a big deal.
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Post by petef3 on Feb 26, 2022 0:03:58 GMT -5
You keep repeating, "He's cutting all these promos on Youtube" as if that's not exactly what I'm getting at--they're on Youtube. They need to be on television. Talking is the best thing he does, so why are we covering up his strengths?
I can't even describe how sick I got of, "Well, it makes sense if you watch BTE" in the earlier days of AEW when they relied on that stuff for storytelling way too much. Other than the John Silver "Budge" stuff, they've gotten away from that in the past year. But this is kind of more of the same.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 26, 2022 0:08:19 GMT -5
You keep repeating, "He's cutting all these promos on Youtube" as if that's not exactly what I'm getting at--they're on Youtube. They need to be on television. Talking is the best thing he does, so why are we covering up his strengths? I can't even describe how sick I got of, "Well, it makes sense if you watch BTE" in the earlier days of AEW when they relied on that stuff for storytelling way too much. Other than the John Silver "Budge" stuff, they've gotten away from that in the past year. But this is kind of more of the same. They're on the AEW official Youtube, and Twitter, they're being shown by the official company themselves I get it, but I don't think they're covering up his strengths, they did a slow rollout with Cassidy too and he wasn't even injured. Same sort of deal with a little bit to big pops until he revved up. He's been in the company one month and been on TV in some form almost every week, they clearly love him and will clearly use him more and more. Or he wouldn't even be getting these moments to pop the crowds. This is simply first gear. If he's healthy, say like two months or so later, and still doing just this, it's a different story to me, but we're really just getting started here.
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 26, 2022 9:59:26 GMT -5
If it doesn't come, will you admit to being wrong for once?The fact that Danhausen is still on the shelf seems like *more* reason to be having him do vignettes on TV, not less. Give him a few weeks to get his character over, then maybe a few more weeks to build up to his first actual match. I don't see how I have to admit anything when it's my opinion. You stood by your own bad takes in other threads despite all the people who told you how wrong and how disgusting it was. I think he's trying to get a reaction out of it, seeing as we saw last time how the fat and body shaming he did the threads blew up. Best to ignore him.
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Post by grunt on Feb 26, 2022 11:57:01 GMT -5
Then again, I don't necessarily disagree with him on this one : even injured, Danhausen should be doing more than just pop up, curse and leave, while commentary just chuckles "ha, i love that Danhausen, he's so kooky !".
Web-related endeavours are fine and dandy, but a 30 sec tv vignette would work wonders, or just put him on guest commentary during a match on Rampage or Dark, have him "explain" who he is, what he does, why he's friends with OC & co, and go from that.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 26, 2022 11:59:48 GMT -5
I mean he's over any time he pops up. I'm fine with this for now until he's ready for more physical stuff. I saw a lot of fans buying his merch at the show. He's doing just fine.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Feb 26, 2022 18:45:12 GMT -5
Also, I thought Scorpio putting on his shades, snapping his fingers and giving us a wrestling match was a lot funnier than it was supposed to be. I watched that this morning and thought it was just so abrupt because there were originally commercials between those 2 things That actually being how it was meant to be is amazing
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Post by cosmo on Feb 26, 2022 20:00:24 GMT -5
Then again, I don't necessarily disagree with him on this one : even injured, Danhausen should be doing more than just pop up, curse and leave, while commentary just chuckles "ha, i love that Danhausen, he's so kooky !". Web-related endeavours are fine and dandy, but a 30 sec tv vignette would work wonders, or just put him on guest commentary during a match on Rampage or Dark, have him "explain" who he is, what he does, why he's friends with OC & co, and go from that.
This is my whole thing with whenever AEW debuts a new wrestler. I don't watch the indies, or New Japan, or AAA. I don't watch Being The Elite, or read the Observer, or spend all my time on wrestling Twitter. I'm just a casual fan who watches WWE and is slowly starting to get into AEW, so they're gonna have to explain to me who people like Danhausen are, or why some people have a built-in relationship when the viewer may never have seen them before.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Feb 27, 2022 16:12:01 GMT -5
Man for me that Acclaimed promo sucked a big one lol
Past few months they’ve been quite good but this, very eh
Also I can see both sides of the argument regarding debuting wrestlers. On one hand yeah they just kinda take it for granted and go “Look who it is! You know who this is! Can you believe they are showing up?” And do a bit more in terms of video packages to explain a character. But on the other 99.9% of their audience has the ability to do a google search, though again why should they need to?
I’d probably agree more that AEW should be explaining it better to their audience. Fans shouldn’t need supplemental reading to understand a character
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Post by Cyno on Feb 27, 2022 16:16:30 GMT -5
I want to see Danhausen do more on TV because I love that Danhausen.
Hopefully he shows up more after Revolution. They probably want to focus on the PPV build and Danhausen still isn't cleared to wrestle.
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Post by lavelleuk22 on Feb 27, 2022 16:42:19 GMT -5
I want to see Danhausen do more on TV because I love that Danhausen.
Hopefully he shows up more after Revolution. They probably want to focus on the PPV build and Danhausen still isn't cleared to wrestle.
He's such an easy one to get on shows, personally I'd have had him just showing up just matches, backstage interviews, segments etc rather than announcing he was signed. Acting buddy-buddy, acting like he belongs etc Just annoying people like the YouTube clips I've seen
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