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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 9, 2022 0:06:59 GMT -5
I would actually argue that the removal of members is when the NWO jumped the shark. JJ Dillon came in and said that Big Bubba and Michael Wallstreet's WCW contract prevented them from being in the NWO. So...what's stopping from the group from being disbanded, especially once the defections from WCW started? Which resulted in this look:
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 9, 2022 0:16:43 GMT -5
I would actually argue that the removal of members is when the NWO jumped the shark. JJ Dillon came in and said that Big Bubba and Michael Wallstreet's WCW contract prevented them from being in the NWO. So...what's stopping from the group from being disbanded, especially once the defections from WCW started? Which resulted in this look: But is that more or less dignified than returning to the Varsity Club gimmick in the early 2000s?
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Mar 9, 2022 0:38:55 GMT -5
Can I just nominate the entire nWo B-Team? I nominate the B-team theme. When you started hearing that song multiple times a night, you knew the shark had been jumped. It fits way too well
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Mar 9, 2022 4:12:12 GMT -5
This reminds me. I need to rewatch the first nWo Souled Out sometime.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 9, 2022 7:21:08 GMT -5
You know, another thing that I think caused, IMO, the nWo to feel like it jumped the shark:
When they started using "WCW/nWo" as the company name instead of just WCW. The nWo was a faction of guys, and they were trying to take over the company. Putting their group name in the company name (which I don't think they stopped doing until the logo change) just felt wrong to me for some reason.
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Post by buckethead on Mar 15, 2022 15:47:12 GMT -5
If just talking black and white...well...: They were smoking way too much crack if they thought THAT was a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 15:50:00 GMT -5
I nominate the B-team theme. When you started hearing that song multiple times a night, you knew the shark had been jumped. It fits way too wellHaha that's perfect. Those may be the two best "ineffectual comic relief villain" songs of the 90s.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 19:39:40 GMT -5
It didn't harm the angle since it was too early, but I hated the Giant joining. The group at the time was just ex-WWF guys coming in, and it had an aura of coolness to it, and then the Giant joins and some of that immediately goes away.
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Post by schma on Mar 16, 2022 11:00:56 GMT -5
It's kinda interesting how some guys just got in when others were rejected. The Nasty Boys had a segment where they joined up which made a meta sense as they were buddies with Hogan but in the same segment it turned out the NWO had pulled a fast one on them and beat them down. Not long after just about anyone who wanted was joining. Made the Nasty Boys look terrible.
As for joining, by the time I had the ability to watch regularly, the NWO was already bloated but still considered somewhat cool, though we were getting tired of them constantly being on top. I remember liking the Wolfpac but post fingerpoke of doom it all went downhill. I actually felt bad for the NWO B-Team. Just a bunch of losers that couldn't make it in the actual NWO. Then they were fighting over who the leader of it was and it just came off pathetic.
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 16, 2022 13:21:16 GMT -5
I remember tuning in after not watching for a while and seeing Stevie Ray leading the NWO black and white.
Stevie Ray.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 16, 2022 13:24:57 GMT -5
It didn't harm the angle since it was too early, but I hated the Giant joining. The group at the time was just ex-WWF guys coming in, and it had an aura of coolness to it, and then the Giant joins and some of that immediately goes away. Remember when Giant joined a second time....because...... erm.. I think it was because he hated Nash? Either way, that was f***ing stupid
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Post by Sephiroth on Mar 17, 2022 13:17:10 GMT -5
What about the semi-spinoff group? The lWo really confuses me, because you would think that that the actual nWo factions would have a bigger issue with them existing at all, especially nWo Hollywood since they took the lWo name so Eddy could stick it to Bischoff over their worked-shoot nonsense. But instead of exploring that idea further, they were just another heel group that was targeting Kidman in the Cruiserweight division and having Mysterio as a reluctant member of the division. Maybe they would have done something a bit different once the Wolfpac and Hollywood unified had Eddy been healthy, but since the car crash on New Years coincided with the Fingerpoke, they just had the unified nWo beat up the lWo once, and then made everyone disavow the group, and they did except for Rey, which led to Konnan leaving the nWo and the subsequent unmasking of Rey. WCW booking et it’s finest; the LWO spends weeks trying to fit e Rey to join. Rey plays the role of revel trying to sabotage the group from within. Then in literally one segment he becomes the one most loyal yo Eddie who refuses to take part in the dissolution of the group by Flair.
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