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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2022 9:13:26 GMT -5
I wonder if all the people, including posters here, who were so adamant that Jeff had fallen off the wagon and the Hardys and AEW were being irresponsible are going to fess up and apologise. To be fair, if the drug test "wasn't conducted on the spot," that might've still been the issue. In any case, Jeff earned the scrutiny considering how many times he's negligently put people's lives in danger.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2022 9:17:01 GMT -5
I wonder if all the people, including posters here, who were so adamant that Jeff had fallen off the wagon and the Hardys and AEW were being irresponsible are going to fess up and apologise. To be fair, if the drug test "wasn't conducted on the spot," that might've still been the issue. In any case, Jeff earned the scrutiny considering how many times he's negligently put people's lives in danger. Of course. But you either have the rules you set, suspend Jeff and then ask him about rehab for a positive result or you don’t do any of that. Reputation shouldn’t contradict that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2022 9:54:54 GMT -5
To be fair, if the drug test "wasn't conducted on the spot," that might've still been the issue. In any case, Jeff earned the scrutiny considering how many times he's negligently put people's lives in danger. Of course. But you either have the rules you set, suspend Jeff and then ask him about rehab for a positive result or you don’t do any of that. Reputation shouldn’t contradict that. In either situation, WWE massively mismanaged this. If he was high, then the proper procedures should have been followed. They weren't. If he wasn't, then again proper procedures should have been followed. They weren't. This mess is 100% on WWE.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 6, 2022 9:55:04 GMT -5
The whole Jeff situation is just a real oddity. We still don’t know Jeff’s own mindset at that show and what he was thinking but you’d think a company like WWE would follow procedure with these things and not jump to the conclusions they did. And I know people said at the time that they couldn’t be blamed for it and Jeff has a history etc and I get that but that’s why you have these procedures in place. If Jeff had a positive drug test and you ask him to go to rehab and he says no, go ahead and fire him. But not having your ducks in a row before you do it just comes off as bush league and it’d be the same as not testing someone because they don’t have a drug history and it turns out they actually needed that help. WWE wouldn’t do that so why do the opposite here? As a result, WWE gift wrapped a very over TV talent to their biggest rivals. I still say Jeff had his bell rung.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 6, 2022 10:37:13 GMT -5
He maybe older, but from what I’ve seen he certainly has more in the tank than Matt does in ring at least. I never was the biggest Hardy Boyz fan, but I am happy he’s coming in. If he’s clean and has his head on straight, then it’s a good signing in my book. Hopefully he doesn’t cause problems.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 6, 2022 10:39:48 GMT -5
I'm thinking Jeff replaces Kassidy in the 6 man tag match tonight. Has to be a reason why they did this match instead of the triple threat they did on Rampage. This could be the reason
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 6, 2022 10:43:22 GMT -5
If he's clean then I'm not against him coming in on the principle of enabling him. But man, Jeff and Matt both shambling around in intense pain doing slow motion takes on old spots sounds like a drag. Neither guy is in good shape, and Matt may have the character work to work around that and integrate his pain into his gestures, but Jeff's just going to fall off stuff and it's not going to be good to watch
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 6, 2022 10:52:54 GMT -5
I'm thinking Jeff replaces Kassidy in the 6 man tag match tonight. Has to be a reason why they did this match instead of the triple threat they did on Rampage. This could be the reason His no-complete doesnt end until Wednesday.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 6, 2022 10:53:45 GMT -5
I remember most posts on Hardy here giving him the benefit of the doubt at first. Worried because of his history but waiting to see. When he was released most folks were convinced he was on drugs again because I dont think anyone thought WWE would release him before the drug test came in.
Personally I was in the Bell Rung camp until the release. Then drugs until the full story came out. Then back to Bell Rung.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 6, 2022 10:56:26 GMT -5
Somewhat ironically, the Hardy Boyz theme is called “Loaded”, by a production music guy named Zack Tempest. He also did the Hardcore Holly/Crash Holly one you’re referencing, called “Slow Death”. Thanks for the clarification. Am I thinking of Basketball Highlights being the Garage theme from Saints Row The Third? I need to play that again. You may be thinking of Jericho. He has made fun of his first WCW theme as being called that, though I am not sure if that's literally the track's name.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 6, 2022 10:58:20 GMT -5
I'm thinking Jeff replaces Kassidy in the 6 man tag match tonight. Has to be a reason why they did this match instead of the triple threat they did on Rampage. This could be the reason His no-complete doesnt end until Wednesday. Just as well. It serves the story they're telling better if Kassidy and Matt's tension boils over, since that's been brewing for a while now, which probably leads to Hardyz vs Private Party.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 6, 2022 10:59:41 GMT -5
I'm thinking Jeff replaces Kassidy in the 6 man tag match tonight. Has to be a reason why they did this match instead of the triple threat they did on Rampage. This could be the reason His no-complete doesnt end until Wednesday. that's the official statement, but for all we know it could've been waved away early. It wouldn't shock me at all if he shows up
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Post by government mule on Mar 6, 2022 12:18:10 GMT -5
Yeah, actually. I forgot the name, I know Hardcore Holly’s was Basketball Highlights or something like that. Somewhat ironically, the Hardy Boyz theme is called “Loaded”, by a production music guy named Zack Tempest. He also did the Hardcore Holly/Crash Holly one you’re referencing, called “Slow Death”. I was watching a few old episodes recently of Top Gear and thought I heard Hardcore Holly's theme but figured I was going mad. Then, in another episode I definitely recognised The Hardyz's theme! Now I know why!!
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 6, 2022 12:28:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. Am I thinking of Basketball Highlights being the Garage theme from Saints Row The Third? I need to play that again. You may be thinking of Jericho. He has made fun of his first WCW theme as being called that, though I am not sure if that's literally the track's name. Yeah, Jericho repeatedly refers to his WCW music as “Basketball Highlights #3” in his first book. Or something very similar, might not have been #3
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2022 12:54:22 GMT -5
Good for Jeff, I'm glad he's ok and safe. That's what matters most. Also good for AEW as Jeff's Jeff Hardy. That's a name that brings money, he's a name brand talent. Whether he's with Matt or whether he's alone, at the end of the day you've got one of the most popular stars these past 22 years on the block providing knowledge to younger talent. That's needed.
But for me? Nah, I'm done with him. I was saying in his latest WWE run that I've been bored of dude since that HIAC 2018 Orton match. Even him jumping to AEW with a new fresh coat of paint can get me back into him. He's just not for me anymore. I care about his health, not what he does in the ring and that's the same for a lot of older wrestlers and me.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 6, 2022 12:55:27 GMT -5
Somewhat ironically, the Hardy Boyz theme is called “Loaded”, by a production music guy named Zack Tempest. He also did the Hardcore Holly/Crash Holly one you’re referencing, called “Slow Death”. I was watching a few old episodes recently of Top Gear and thought I heard Hardcore Holly's theme but figured I was going mad. Then, in another episode I definitely recognised The Hardyz's theme! Now I know why!! You can hear the Hardys and I think Hollys in an episode of Drawn Together. The stripper episode.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 6, 2022 13:02:04 GMT -5
His no-complete doesnt end until Wednesday. Just as well. It serves the story they're telling better if Kassidy and Matt's tension boils over, since that's been brewing for a while now, which probably leads to Hardyz vs Private Party. Remember the story is that the AHFO board is Matt, Private Party, Andrade, and Jose. Matt has cost Andrade a couple times, and has left Private Party high and dry (while Andrade has been supportive) I think the story is for Private Party to vote Matt out and that's where Jeff comes in
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Post by Fade on Mar 6, 2022 15:07:32 GMT -5
I wonder if all the people, including posters here, who were so adamant that Jeff had fallen off the wagon and the Hardys and AEW were being irresponsible are going to fess up and apologise. No, not at all. Looks like we were wrong and Jeff just erratically dipped while WWE WWE’d. It’s weird, even being an Attitude-Era baby, Austin and Jeff coming back has me not feeling anything. We’ve seen Jeff’s condition in WWE in the last few years so..I hope they make their money’s worth and have a worthwhile run.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2022 15:27:36 GMT -5
I wonder if all the people, including posters here, who were so adamant that Jeff had fallen off the wagon and the Hardys and AEW were being irresponsible are going to fess up and apologise. No, not at all. Looks like we were wrong and Jeff just erratically dipped while WWE WWE’d. Read this thrice and no idea what it means. I mean saying someone has fallen off the wagon when it seems they didn't seems like a shitty thing right? And nothing personal, no idea if you said anything against him, but the sheer volume of people who said 'HES BACK TO DRUGS'and have scurried back to their hole like rats saying 'well it might have been' is just one of the lowest grade of humanity, don't you agree?
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Post by Cyno on Mar 6, 2022 15:35:28 GMT -5
I remember most posts on Hardy here giving him the benefit of the doubt at first. Worried because of his history but waiting to see. When he was released most folks were convinced he was on drugs again because I dont think anyone thought WWE would release him before the drug test came in. Personally I was in the Bell Rung camp until the release. Then drugs until the full story came out. Then back to Bell Rung. I think post-COVID stuff might have played a role in it as well. I think that match he walked out on was only a few weeks after he was cleared.
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