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Post by asuka007 on May 10, 2022 12:19:40 GMT -5
SD’s roster is so thin right now.
They need some NXT call ups bad!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 12:37:13 GMT -5
I sometimes wonder if Vince Russo wasn't secretly rehired a few years ago
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Post by jhbboy198917 on May 10, 2022 12:37:24 GMT -5
SD’s roster is so thin right now. They need some NXT call ups bad! I think they'll get a returning Bayley, possible Io |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 12:40:58 GMT -5
I actually gave them some credit in 2.0 for using someone's 'mental illness' story (as over the top as it was) to be something for her to overcome and not remain 'just crazy'. On the other hand, this stuff with Lacey is just GAWDY. Never been a fan of Lacey, however her vignettes delt with awful real life issues people deal with, some I've gone through myself. I'm an adult who knows fiction from reality, however that doesn't make them using it like they have any less scummy. But hey it's family friendly and a kids show, eh? Depression and suicide...just tough it out.  I have seen this take and I just don't get how it is scummy? It was not glamorized or sensationalized in my opinion as it is just a woman detailing her experiences even if people aren't used to hearing it. |
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Post by sportatorium on May 10, 2022 12:46:23 GMT -5
What on Earth? Why go through this whole ordeal of repackaging and reintroducing her as a babyface if they are just going heel with her? She was already a heel before. Also as a heel, it seems like they are just feeding her to Ronda this time of year.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 12:48:51 GMT -5
Lacey is like the guinea pig that they test their worst ideas for the women's division on.  |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 10, 2022 12:53:21 GMT -5
 "My experience was traumatizing, harsh, and very tough. But they made me into the person I am today and I can say without doubt that my experiences are not as traumatizing as being here in this stupid dump of a city of Cincinnati... Also the Reds suck!" It takes a mighty mighty delusional person to not think the Reds suck at this point. |
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Post by knsffa on May 10, 2022 14:00:13 GMT -5
I actually gave them some credit in 2.0 for using someone's 'mental illness' story (as over the top as it was) to be something for her to overcome and not remain 'just crazy'. On the other hand, this stuff with Lacey is just GAWDY. Never been a fan of Lacey, however her vignettes delt with awful real life issues people deal with, some I've gone through myself. I'm an adult who knows fiction from reality, however that doesn't make them using it like they have any less scummy. But hey it's family friendly and a kids show, eh? Depression and suicide...just tough it out. I have seen this take and I just don't get how it is scummy? It was not glamorized or sensationalized in my opinion as it is just a woman detailing her experiences even if people aren't used to hearing it. Her detailing her experiences isn't what people are calling scummy. It's this heel turn swerve, using her traumatic upbringing. |
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 10, 2022 14:31:27 GMT -5
I don't mind the heel turn as I thought that was the case by week 3. I don't get switching her to Raw. Raw doesn't need another woman at the moment. Smackdown could use a good heel or face for Ronda to face. Like even Bayley is returning, you can't run that program until September. You could have done 1-2 months with Ronda & Lacey and saved Baley & Ronda for Summerslam.
I just don't understand the switch.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 10, 2022 14:33:43 GMT -5
I also think a pull yourself up by the bootstraps hey I've overcome all this stuff and you're weak if you cant overcome your shit would be an amazing heel gimmick if done right. A lot of shades of current culture dynamics could be reflected in that gimmick. Do I think WWE can do that? Eh....
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 10, 2022 14:39:08 GMT -5
I have personally been through a lot of the traumatic experiences that Lacey has been through (abuse, family overdosing) so a character using that in any way for heel heat just seems vile and has strong go away heat with me. I just can't watch that.
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Post by hbkid718 on May 10, 2022 15:59:39 GMT -5
What the hell is WWE doing? I actually cried watching Lacey's promos & listening to her story. I wanted to see her succeed. Now they throw it all away by making her a heel & moving her to Raw. I give up getting emotionally invested in anything they do.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 10, 2022 16:54:00 GMT -5
"My experience was traumatizing, harsh, and very tough. But they made me into the person I am today and I can say without doubt that my experiences are not as traumatizing as being here in this stupid dump of a city of Cincinnati... Also the Reds suck!" It takes a mighty mighty delusional person to not think the Reds suck at this point. Well as evidence by yesterday they don't suck enough to beat my team. Still pissed about it. Should've traded Brandon Woodruff when they had the chance. Could've got a good bat for him to help their sorry excuse of what they call an offense where they have like one hitter currently hitting above .250. |
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Post by The Rick Jericho on May 10, 2022 16:57:07 GMT -5
Next week mid-match.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 10, 2022 17:05:07 GMT -5
Not to make this an AEW vs. WWE thing, but this whole thing does kind of feel like if after MJF's promo about himself Punk had just rolled his eyes and came out to lead the crowd in a chant against him. Sure, MJF was still an asshole heel using that to his advantage when he did that, but at no point did you have the commentators dismissively calling it sensationalized or anything nor did they really do anything to make it seem like he was outright lying about all that. Kind of goes to show a right way vs. wrong way to do something like this for a heel.
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Post by Nosnorb on May 10, 2022 17:06:38 GMT -5
Didn't Lacey have a childhood very similar to the one Vince had?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 17:08:04 GMT -5
Didn't Lacey have a childhood very similar to the one Vince had? Yeah, I don't know if all of these stories she's been telling are real, but it's my understanding that she did have a rough upbringing and her father was an addict. |
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Post by Chiral on May 10, 2022 17:16:55 GMT -5
Thinking about this whole thing potentially leading to a heel Lacey has me wondering if it's some weird thing like Vince wants to make fun of Dark Side of the Ring. Like he saw an episode or two and thought "I gotta make fun of this."
(This obviously isn't me saying "THIS IS 100% WHAT'S GOING ON CONFIRMED DESPITE HAVING ZERO EVIDENCE I KNOW THIS IS TRUE" just a thought I had)
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Post by dbrussel on May 10, 2022 17:20:39 GMT -5
So when she was face nobody cared cause she was acting backstage and on social media like a heel. Also her moveset was totally heel.
Now they turn her heel after those babyface segments...and they expect people to boo her? Is she gonna do a Shawn Michaels with the USA flag wearing an old marine suit?
Also, I hope Bayley is totally healed cause she's gonna have a 4 months program with Ronda...
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 17:34:09 GMT -5
"My experience was traumatizing, harsh, and very tough. But they made me into the person I am today and I can say without doubt that my experiences are not as traumatizing as being here in this stupid dump of a city of Cincinnati... Also the Reds suck!" It takes a mighty mighty delusional person to not think the Reds suck at this point. I know. The Pirates suck even worse. |
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