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Post by Dub H on May 26, 2022 18:54:24 GMT -5
I dont think Cole is divisive but I think a lot of people are simply tired of him and want to see him less.
Which probably will knock down the votes of some people
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 26, 2022 18:57:03 GMT -5
I will say on the Cole subject, a lot of the people who get super heavily bashed around here still placed pretty highly, though some did drop notably. There's at least one person in particular who was beloved in years past who f***ing plummeted.
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Post by Dub H on May 26, 2022 19:07:37 GMT -5
I will say on the Cole subject, a lot of the people who get super heavily bashed around here still placed pretty highly, though some did drop notably. There's at least one person in particular who was beloved in years past who f***ing plummeted. Interesting. I don't remember years past very well. I could see Sammy having plummeted or Cage, Matt Hardy but I can't remember then bring very high.Maybe Jericho.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 19:30:07 GMT -5
I will say on the Cole subject, a lot of the people who get super heavily bashed around here still placed pretty highly, though some did drop notably. There's at least one person in particular who was beloved in years past who f***ing plummeted. Interesting. I don't remember years past very well. I could see Sammy having plummeted or Cage, Matt Hardy but I can't remember then bring very high.Maybe Jericho. I dunno where he placed last time, but maybe Darby? Did the allegations against him come out after the last survey?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 19:31:48 GMT -5
I’m really curious about how Adam Cole comes out in this. I’ve been a longtime fan and think he’s been a plus for AEW but he seems very decisive — as in some poeple hate him (he doesn’t have the physique, he’s not realistic to them that he could beat bigger guys, his matches are good but not special … kind of a ‘generic indie guy’ to them) and others like me think he’s more like a top-end indie-style guy who may not rate as the best in any category (promos/in-ring/character) but rates high enough across the board to make it work. He's great at being a heel, but a lot of fans who have followed his career since ROH or NXT feel that he needs to evolve his character. I hope he eventually gets a longer face run than he had on NXT, which could freshen his act up. Turning Cole heel again was IMO one of the biggest mistakes HHH made towards the end of the black and gold era (and he made a few).
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Post by Fade on May 26, 2022 19:35:46 GMT -5
He's great at being a heel, but a lot of fans who have followed his career since ROH or NXT feel that he needs to evolve his character. I hope he eventually gets a longer face run than he had on NXT, which could freshen his act up. Turning Cole heel again was IMO one of the biggest mistakes HHH made towards the end of the black and gold era (and he made a few). Might be some merit in this. That might be what he needs..a face turn. I dunno, I went from thinking he looked like the biggest deal in the bullet club days and NXT to..not disliking him in AEW necessarily. Just..meh
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 19:39:03 GMT -5
Turning Cole heel again was IMO one of the biggest mistakes HHH made towards the end of the black and gold era (and he made a few). Might be some merit in this. That might be what he needs..a face turn. I dunno, I went from thinking he looked like the biggest deal in the bullet club days and NXT to..not disliking him in AEW necessarily. Just..meh I like him, but he could use a little freshening up. He comes off as such a nice guy in real life, I'd like to see some of that come out on TV.
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Post by Cyno on May 26, 2022 19:41:03 GMT -5
I will say on the Cole subject, a lot of the people who get super heavily bashed around here still placed pretty highly, though some did drop notably. There's at least one person in particular who was beloved in years past who f***ing plummeted. I can see that person being Britt or Sammy. I can see both being really popular at this time last year and that nosediveing. As for Cole, I went either like or love for him. Doesn't surprise me that some heavily bashed people are by a loud minority who seem larger than they really are because that's just the internet for you.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 26, 2022 19:47:29 GMT -5
Interesting. I don't remember years past very well. I could see Sammy having plummeted or Cage, Matt Hardy but I can't remember then bring very high.Maybe Jericho. I dunno where he placed last time, but maybe Darby? Did the allegations against him come out after the last survey? Pretty sure before the last one.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 26, 2022 21:30:43 GMT -5
Well, this was f***ing exhausting, but let's do it, the negatives! I'll drip feed these out over tonight and tomorrow. AEW FAN Roster Survey 2022 #160 to #146 160. Jake Hager: Score: -71 Previous Score: -54 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 13 (10.3%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 48 (38.1%) Dislike: 38 (30.2%) Strongly Dislike: 25 (19.8%) 159. Vickie Guerrero: Score: -67 Previous Score: 7 Love: 3 (2.4%) Like: 22 (17.5%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 38 (30.2%) Dislike: 31 (24.6%) Strongly Dislike: 32 (25.4%) 158. Brian Cage: Score: -58 Previous Score: 68 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 16 (12.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 47 (37.3%) Dislike: 44 (34.9%) Strongly Dislike: 17 (13.5%) 157. Marko Stunt: Score: -57 Previous Score: -32 Love: 6 (4.8%) Like: 10 (7.9%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 59 (46.8%) Dislike: 23 (18.3%) Strongly Dislike: 28 (22.2%) 156. Joey Janela: Score: -39 Previous Score: -36 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 25 (19.8%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 52 (41.3%) Dislike: 26 (20.6%) Strongly Dislike: 21 (16.7%) 155. Anthony Ogogo: Score: -33 Previous Score: 47 Love: 0 (0%) Like: 16 (12.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 69 (54.8%) Dislike: 33 (26.2%) Strongly Dislike: 8 (6.3%) 154. Michael Nakazawa: Score: -23 Previous Score: -40 Love: 4 (3.2%) Like: 21 (16.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 66 (52.4%) Dislike: 18 (14.3%) Strongly Dislike: 17 (13.5%) 153. Brian Pillman Jr.: Score: -21 Love: 5 (4%) Like: 29 (23%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 47 (37.3%) Dislike: 30 (23.8%) Strongly Dislike: 15 (11.9%) 152. Sammy Guevara: Score: -19 Previous Score: 113 Love: 12 (9.5%) Like: 36 (28.6%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 25 (19.8%) Dislike: 27 (21.4%) Strongly Dislike: 26 (20.6%) 151. Tony Nese: Score: -15 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 27 (21.4%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 60 (47.6%) Dislike: 28 (22.2%) Strongly Dislike: 9 (7.1%) 150. QT Marshall: Score: -14 Previous Score: -34 Love: 4 (3.2%) Like: 35 (27.8%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 43 (34.1%) Dislike: 31 (24.6%) Strongly Dislike: 13 (10.3%) 148A. Aaron Solow: Score: -7 Previous Score: -8 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 11 (8.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 94 (74.6%) Dislike: 16 (12.7%) Strongly Dislike: 3 (2.4%) 148B. Brock Anderson: Score: -7 Love: 0 (0%) Like: 16 (12.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 92 (73%) Dislike: 13 (10.3%) Strongly Dislike: 5 (4%) 147. Marina Shafir: Score: -3 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 24 (19%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 74 (58.7%) Dislike: 21 (16.7%) Strongly Dislike: 5 (4%) 146. Red Velvet: Score: -1 Previous Score: 54 Love: 5 (4%) Like: 29 (23%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 58 (46%) Dislike: 28 (22.2%) Strongly Dislike: 6 (4.8%)
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Post by oxbaker on May 26, 2022 21:36:47 GMT -5
Oh Sammy.
Well if I contribute nothing else to this survey, I like Tony Nese and that probably got him above Sammy haha.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 26, 2022 21:37:29 GMT -5
For what it's worth Sammy and Cage are not the only ones to fall more than 100 points.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 26, 2022 21:40:20 GMT -5
<Cage> Ha! I dropped 126 points! TRY to be THAT hated!
<Sammy, dropping 132> Hold my Beer.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 26, 2022 21:42:30 GMT -5
<Cage> Ha! I dropped 126 points! TRY to be THAT hated! <Sammy, dropping 132> Hold my Beer. Shout out to Anthony Ogogo dropping 80 points when I don't think the dude's been on TV in the last year.
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Post by bob on May 26, 2022 21:44:35 GMT -5
<Cage> Ha! I dropped 126 points! TRY to be THAT hated! <Sammy, dropping 132> Hold my Beer. Shout out to Anthony Ogogo dropping 80 points when I don't think the dude's been on TV in the last year. well... to be fair his feud with Cody was awful
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Post by Fade on May 26, 2022 21:51:44 GMT -5
FAN and Sammy
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Post by Hypnosis on May 26, 2022 21:54:03 GMT -5
Shout out to Anthony Ogogo dropping 80 points when I don't think the dude's been on TV in the last year. well... to be fair his feud with Cody was awful Not just that:
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 26, 2022 22:04:21 GMT -5
Let's go ahead and get up the people with 30 points or lower then, shall we? AEW FAN Roster Survey 2022 #145 to #120 145. Jay Lethal: Score: 1 Love: 5 (4%) Like: 45 (35.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 38 (30.2%) Dislike: 22 (17.5%) Strongly Dislike: 16 (12.7%) 144. Mark Henry: Score: 4 Love: 7 (5.6%) Like: 33 (26.2%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 50 (39.7%) Dislike: 29 (23%) Strongly Dislike: 7 (5.6%) 143. Colten Gunn: Score: 6 Previous Score: -36 Love: 3 (2.4%) Like: 38 (30.2%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 56 (44.4%) Dislike: 20 (15.9%) Strongly Dislike: 9 (7.1%) 142. Valentina Rossi: Score: 7 Love: 1 (0.8%) Like: 12 (9.5%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 108 (85.7%) Dislike: 3 (2.4%) Strongly Dislike: 2 (1.6%) 140A. Kaun: Score: 8 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 11 (8.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 109 (86.5%) Dislike: 1 (0.8%) Strongly Dislike: 3 (2.4%) 140B. Luther: Score: 8 (Hey, @mattyphatty, no need to boycott!) Previous Score: -21 Love: 13 (10.3%) Like: 31 (24.6%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 47 (37.3%) Dislike: 21 (16.7%) Strongly Dislike: 14 (11.1%) 139. Toa Liona: Score: 10 Love: 1 (0.8%) Like: 12 (9.5%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 110 (87.3%) Dislike: 2 (1.6%) Strongly Dislike: 1 (0.8%) 137A. Austin Gunn: Score: 13 Previous Score: -27 Love: 5 (4%) Like: 40 (31.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 54 (42.9%) Dislike: 17 (13.5%) Strongly Dislike: 10 (7.9%) 137B. Shalonce Royal: Score: 13 Love: 4 (3.2%) Like: 11 (8.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 107 (84.9%) Dislike: 2 (1.6%) Strongly Dislike: 2 (1.6%) 134A. Anthony Greene: Score: 14 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 10 (7.9%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 111 (88.1%) Dislike: 3 (2.4%) Strongly Dislike: 0 (0%) 134B. Megan Bayne: Score: 14 Love: 4 (3.2%) Like: 12 (9.5%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 106 (84.1%) Dislike: 2 (1.6%) Strongly Dislike: 2 (1.6%) 134C. Paul Wight: Score: 14 Previous Score: 36 Love: 4 (3.2%) Like: 35 (27.8%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 65 (51.6%) Dislike: 15 (11.9%) Strongly Dislike: 7 (5.6%) 132A. AQA: Score: 15 Love: 1 (0.8%) Like: 18 (14.3%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 103 (81.7%) Dislike: 3 (2.4%) Strongly Dislike: 1 (0.8%) 132B. Jack Evans: Score: 15 Previous Score: 22 Love: 7 (5.6%) Like: 27 (21.4%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 66 (52.4%) Dislike: 23 (18.3%) Strongly Dislike: 3 (2.4%) 131. Josh Woods: Score: 18 Love: 3 (2.4%) Like: 12 (9.5%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 109 (86.5%) Dislike: 2 (1.6%) Strongly Dislike: 0 (0%) 130. Robyn Renegade: Score: 19 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 20 (15.9%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 101 (80.2%) Dislike: 1 (0.8%) Strongly Dislike: 2 (1.6%) 127A. Dani Jordyn: Score: 20 Love: 5 (4%) Like: 13 (10.3%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 106 (84.1%) Dislike: 1 (0.8%) Strongly Dislike: 1 (0.8%) 127B. Kip Sabian: Score: 20 Previous Score: 20 Underrated: 4 (3.2%) Like: 28 (22.2%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 77 (61.1%) Dislike: 14 (11.1%) Over It: 3 (2.4%) 127C. Lee Johnson: Score: 20 Previous Score: 26 Love: 4 (3.2%) Like: 28 (22.2%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 81 (64.3%) Dislike: 10 (7.9%) Strongly Dislike: 3 (2.4%) 125A. Charlette Renegade: Score: 21 Love: 2 (1.6%) Like: 21 (16.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 100 (79.4%) Dislike: 2 (1.6%) Strongly Dislike: 1 (0.8%) 125B. Rebel: Score: 21 Previous Score: 70 Love: 8 (6.3%) Like: 32 (25.4%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 64 (50.8%) Dislike: 17 (13.5%) Strongly Dislike: 5 (4%) 124. Fuego Del Sol: Score: 22 Previous Score: 56 Love: 8 (6.3%) Like: 37 (29.4%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 58 (46%) Dislike: 15 (11.9%) Strongly Dislike: 8 (6.3%) 122A. Madi Wrenkowski: Score: 27 Love: 7 (5.6%) Like: 19 (15.1%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 96 (76.2%) Dislike: 2 (1.6%) Strongly Dislike: 2 (1.6%) 122B. Shawn Dean: Score: 27 Previous Score: 18 Love: 4 (3.2%) Like: 34 (27%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 77 (61.1%) Dislike: 7 (5.6%) Strongly Dislike: 4 (3.2%) 121. Griff Garrison: Score: 28 Love: 6 (4.8%) Like: 35 (27.8%) Who the F***?: 69 (54.8%) Dislike: 13 (10.3%) Strongly Dislike: 3 (2.4%) 120. Billy Gunn: Score: 30 Previous Score: 1 Love: 7 (5.6%) Like: 55 (43.7%) No Strong Opinion / Mixed: 34 (27%) Dislike: 23 (18.3%) Strongly Dislike: 7 (5.6%)
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Post by Dub H on May 26, 2022 22:08:16 GMT -5
well... to be fair his feud with Cody was awful Not just that: Im afraid to ask what was the "cure" March 2020?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 26, 2022 22:09:28 GMT -5
Yeah a lot of these you can chalk up to really dumb world views (Ogogo, Vickie, Hager, Cage), and being a dumbass in public (Also Hager, Also Cage, Janela, Pillman)
The only two I'd argue against is Tony Nese don't deserve the hate he gets, this Danhausen feud has been fun and his rapport with Sterling is maybe his best work of his career and he's just a solid worker in ring, fluid as hell even, I also think QT's overhated, the dude does his job so well and I love his big dork energy.
Marko's always the one that's baffling to me. Like the dude as far as I know hasn't said or done anything stupid, it's just a lot of the times it feels like people look down on him even being a wrestler, or doing some dumb goofy spots on Indies, it's the same boat Nakazawa falls into but imo Nakazawa's a much sloppier worker and does even more gratuitous spots at a more frequent pace. Maybe there's more to it, I just always felt when it came to Marko it always boiled down to "He cannot believably be a wrestler" and that shit always rubbed me the wrong way idk.
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