Dynamite Viewership for April 20th

[Lizuka #BLM]

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Did 930,000 viewers and a 0.37 demo, coming in at #4 for the night. Down a small bit on viewers from the past couple weeks but the demo's hovering around the same area it has been.

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And no one can blame it on a holiday because stoners love wrestling.

[Cyno]

Best rated show in 18-49 that wasn't NBA-related and Celtics-Nets was a big-time game. You'll take it.

Great night for Turner in general. They had #1-4 of the top 5 rated shows on cable last night.

[mrbananagrabber]

Tony: bu..but I had a big announcement..

[Tom Selleck]

Same audience they get every week. Never gain any new fans and don't lose the ones they have.

[Mecca]

As long as NBA playoffs are rolling they won't add many new eyes.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Apr 21, 2022 16:05:36 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

And no one can blame it on a holiday because stoners love wrestling.

Apr 21, 2022 17:53:38 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Tony: bu..but I had a big announcement..

Apr 21, 2022 18:18:36 GMT -5 Tom Selleck said:

Same audience they get every week. Never gain any new fans and don't lose the ones they have.

Ya'll realize if the NBA Playoffs weren't on, it'd probably have been number one on the entire night, right?

The NBA Playoffs hurt everyone, RAW did a near record low this week going up against them, the fact AEW's holding steady and not bottoming out is actually a good thing, and number 4 on the night is a win. There have been major programming collisions with AEW for weeks now, it's why it's stayed the same but the fact they aren't losing huge chunks is an absolute plus.

It bugs me that almost a million viewers seems to be something to dunk on these days, and I hate to tell you, but the Stanley Cup Playoffs are gonna dig into wrestling too, but the NBA is even worse, it gets a ton of viewers and demo especially in Playoff series.

[Cyno]

One of these days we'll have a ratings thread where people take into context what else is on TV. Or realize that P2+ isn't that important compared to 18-49. That goes for the WWE ratings threads, too.

Raw was #3-5 for Monday night despite a near record low in P2+ viewership for Hour 3. Dynamite was #4 for its night. Even Rampage in its weird timeslot was #9 for Friday night. Wrestling is among the most watched stuff in the key demo on cable television that isn't the NBA playoffs.  It's doing quite fine for itself.

[kidkamikaze10]

Apr 21, 2022 16:08:17 GMT -5 Cyno said:

Best rated show in 18-49 that wasn't NBA-related and Celtics-Nets was a big-time game. You'll take it.

Great night for Turner in general. They had #1-4 of the top 5 rated shows on cable last night.

Yeah, to me that's the bigger thing. The higher ups win whether NBA or AEW wins out. So I'm sure they have absolutely no issues with AEW's ratings.

So why should anyone else?

[ARI WOW WOW]

Its not 1 million so its bad, okay? Horrible number! All Elite Wrestling? More like All Elite Who?-sling (trademarked).

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Edit: just deleting this reply, some threads have devolved previously but this one DEFINITELY hadn't

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Apr 22, 2022 2:41:47 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I don't know why I bother coming into the ratings threads any more, so often it's like 'Last week's viewership: 1 million. This week's viewership: 999,999' and then half the replies are 'GUESS [X SEGMENT] DEFFO DIDN'T DRAW AFTER LAST WEEK'S GAINS'

It's a little tedious here, but it's nothing compared to other places, including any time Alvarez has posted about it on Twitter and it's either 900K+ is not enough or if they ever reach a million, it's "Still not above RAW and not even close to Smackdown", or as you said "Lol this new star isn't a game changer huh!? That announcement didn't do anything HUH!?"

It's shitty goal post moving and the absolute cringiest shit to beat your chest about, it gives me secondhand embarrassment as a fan and someone who actually likes ratings out of curiosity and following them week to week. Some of these people would have eaten themselves alive during the Monday Night Wars...

[stoptheclocks]

Apr 22, 2022 2:41:47 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I don't know why I bother coming into the ratings threads any more, so often it's like 'Last week's viewership: 1 million. This week's viewership: 999,999' and then half the replies are 'GUESS [X SEGMENT] DEFFO DIDN'T DRAW AFTER LAST WEEK'S GAINS'`

WWE has made billions on its TV deals by simply having an audience that isn't shrinking as fast as other TV shows is, and AEW's current TV contract was based on something like 200,000-400,000 viewers being the target. Whenever their rights come up and they end up with bigger targets to hit and maintain, maybe then it's worth worrying, but in the meantime they're at least doubling the audience they're supposed to have every week for Dynamite alone, and the viewers for Rampage are basically 'free' because they tape it

There is, at best, one whole post that is anything like that in this thread. And even that is more of a jab at Tony Khan than a suggestion AEW is dying or whatever.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Apr 22, 2022 3:24:49 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

Apr 22, 2022 2:41:47 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I don't know why I bother coming into the ratings threads any more, so often it's like 'Last week's viewership: 1 million. This week's viewership: 999,999' and then half the replies are 'GUESS [X SEGMENT] DEFFO DIDN'T DRAW AFTER LAST WEEK'S GAINS'`

WWE has made billions on its TV deals by simply having an audience that isn't shrinking as fast as other TV shows is, and AEW's current TV contract was based on something like 200,000-400,000 viewers being the target. Whenever their rights come up and they end up with bigger targets to hit and maintain, maybe then it's worth worrying, but in the meantime they're at least doubling the audience they're supposed to have every week for Dynamite alone, and the viewers for Rampage are basically 'free' because they tape it

There is, at best, one whole post that is anything like that in this thread. And even that is more of a jab at Tony Khan than a suggestion AEW is dying or whatever.

You are completely right, i used that one reply to spin off into a rant

To be fair I stand by the rant about previous threads but this one was fresh out the oven and totally not an example of it

[clifford]

Apr 22, 2022 2:59:21 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Apr 22, 2022 2:41:47 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I don't know why I bother coming into the ratings threads any more, so often it's like 'Last week's viewership: 1 million. This week's viewership: 999,999' and then half the replies are 'GUESS [X SEGMENT] DEFFO DIDN'T DRAW AFTER LAST WEEK'S GAINS'

It's a little tedious here, but it's nothing compared to other places, including any time Alvarez has posted about it on Twitter and it's either 900K+ is not enough or if they ever reach a million, it's "Still not above RAW and not even close to Smackdown", or as you said "Lol this new star isn't a game changer huh!? That announcement didn't do anything HUH!?"

It's shitty goal post moving and the absolute cringiest shit to beat your chest about, it gives me secondhand embarrassment as a fan and someone who actually likes ratings out of curiosity and following them week to week. Some of these people would have eaten themselves alive during the Monday Night Wars...

So predictable. Same posters, same comments. Every week.

To paraphrase something I saw on Twitter; I do not give a shit about 'audience growth'. I wanna watch good wrestling. If the product was shit but gaining viewers week in, week out, guess what? I wouldn't be watching it. The people who bang on about 'growing the audience' don't really care about audience growth; they just wanna ruin other people's joy in watching a great wrestling show, for whatever weird reason they have.

[Dub H]

Apr 22, 2022 4:00:29 GMT -5 clifford said:

Apr 22, 2022 2:59:21 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

It's a little tedious here, but it's nothing compared to other places, including any time Alvarez has posted about it on Twitter and it's either 900K+ is not enough or if they ever reach a million, it's "Still not above RAW and not even close to Smackdown", or as you said "Lol this new star isn't a game changer huh!? That announcement didn't do anything HUH!?"

It's shitty goal post moving and the absolute cringiest shit to beat your chest about, it gives me secondhand embarrassment as a fan and someone who actually likes ratings out of curiosity and following them week to week. Some of these people would have eaten themselves alive during the Monday Night Wars...

So predictable. Same posters, same comments. Every week.

To paraphrase something I saw on Twitter; I do not give a shit about 'audience growth'. I wanna watch good wrestling. If the product was shit but gaining viewers week in, week out, guess what? I wouldn't be watching it. The people who bang on about 'growing the audience' don't really care about audience growth; they just wanna ruin other people's joy in watching a great wrestling show, for whatever weird reason they have.

The biggest example is the NJPW x AEW Supershow

Is it gonna attract the US Casuals? Well no.

Do I care?No,its gonna be f***ing awesome

I do wanna see AEW grow but I want AEW to be a really good f***ing show first

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Apr 22, 2022 4:00:29 GMT -5 clifford said:

Apr 22, 2022 2:59:21 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

It's a little tedious here, but it's nothing compared to other places, including any time Alvarez has posted about it on Twitter and it's either 900K+ is not enough or if they ever reach a million, it's "Still not above RAW and not even close to Smackdown", or as you said "Lol this new star isn't a game changer huh!? That announcement didn't do anything HUH!?"

It's shitty goal post moving and the absolute cringiest shit to beat your chest about, it gives me secondhand embarrassment as a fan and someone who actually likes ratings out of curiosity and following them week to week. Some of these people would have eaten themselves alive during the Monday Night Wars...

So predictable. Same posters, same comments. Every week.

To paraphrase something I saw on Twitter; I do not give a shit about 'audience growth'. I wanna watch good wrestling. If the product was shit but gaining viewers week in, week out, guess what? I wouldn't be watching it. The people who bang on about 'growing the audience' don't really care about audience growth; they just wanna ruin other people's joy in watching a great wrestling show, for whatever weird reason they have.

It's all about because they actually perceive AEW as a threat, or they'd say nothing, just as they say nothing or care not about Impact's Viewership or anyone elses who have some TV deals, or how they didn't care about ROH's on Sinclair despite it actually being decent 200-300K each airing apparently, but I betcha some of em will care if they get a good TV deal in the new incarnation thanks to Khan, because that's the perception, it gets judged more harshly.

The ratings only truly matter for better TV Deals, and WWE's and AEW's are both coming up and they SHOULD both be getting paid the big bucks, so for all the hooting and hollering on socials about AEW "Failing", if they make out huge, which is expected, in the new deal coming up in about a year, it won't matter, but they'll still act like it does.

TNT went in thinking this would do like 300K viewers, that cannot be overstated here. Their second show Rampage still gets about 500K in a deathslot on Fridays, it's been an absolute win for wrestling as a whole to show sustained growth and huge fan dedication. And now Discovery's CEO is apparently a fan of wrestling and they're loving what they're seeing. That's in the end, what really matters here.

I like seeing what does well, I like dissecting ratings, I think it's fun, but people on social media tried to treat it like a new WAR in wrestling and it's pathetic that they're still holding on to it even with NXT moving and completely changing the brand. As you said, it's not worth the time or effort, it's just nice to see AEW exceeding expectations and holding tough against literally some of the toughest competition you can get on cable these days. It's good stuff and probably only helps them when time comes for the new deal and more. 

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Apr 22, 2022 5:26:31 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Apr 22, 2022 4:00:29 GMT -5 clifford said:

So predictable. Same posters, same comments. Every week.

To paraphrase something I saw on Twitter; I do not give a shit about 'audience growth'. I wanna watch good wrestling. If the product was shit but gaining viewers week in, week out, guess what? I wouldn't be watching it. The people who bang on about 'growing the audience' don't really care about audience growth; they just wanna ruin other people's joy in watching a great wrestling show, for whatever weird reason they have.

The biggest example is the NJPW x AEW Supershow

Is it gonna attract the US Casuals? Well no.

Do I care?No,its gonna be f***ing awesome

I do wanna see AEW grow but I want AEW to be a really good f***ing show first

The argument about casuals is such bad faith shit I don't even want to pay it any mind. The show's more than likely gonna sell out the United Center and will probably get a pretty damn good buyrate when you equate it to the amount of Japan Buys/if it's streamed on New Japan World and such. These are the same people who were ready to scream about WWE breaking down the Forbidden Door with Mickie James in the Rumble as Impact champion and it amounted to literally nothing, again, perception is a funny thing with these posters, and it really shows Khan has a point with this bot study that these arguments are conflated when discussing the topic by these bad faith posters.

Also attracting casuals is nice when you're able to do it, but they're casuals for a reason, they aloofly pay attention to wrestling, no matter what wrestling it is. This show has nothing to do with it yet again, concern trolls want the topic to have everything to do with it. If casuals watch it, great! If not... it's not gonna matter, if it wasn't for the NBA, AEW would likely be the top rated thing on cable right now, the shows got people contemplating flying across the ocean to get to Chicago even here on FAN, and there isn't a single match announced. It's gonna be just fine lol.

[Deleted]

Apr 21, 2022 18:52:23 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Apr 21, 2022 16:05:36 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

And no one can blame it on a holiday because stoners love wrestling.

Apr 21, 2022 17:53:38 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Tony: bu..but I had a big announcement..

Apr 21, 2022 18:18:36 GMT -5 Tom Selleck said:

Same audience they get every week. Never gain any new fans and don't lose the ones they have.

Ya'll realize if the NBA Playoffs weren't on, it'd probably have been number one on the entire night, right?

The NBA Playoffs hurt everyone, RAW did a near record low this week going up against them, the fact AEW's holding steady and not bottoming out is actually a good thing, and number 4 on the night is a win. There have been major programming collisions with AEW for weeks now, it's why it's stayed the same but the fact they aren't losing huge chunks is an absolute plus.

It bugs me that almost a million viewers seems to be something to dunk on these days, and I hate to tell you, but the Stanley Cup Playoffs are gonna dig into wrestling too, but the NBA is even worse, it gets a ton of viewers and demo especially in Playoff series.

Dude, chill. Mine was just a stupid joke. I like watching AEW. I don't give a f*** how many other people watch it as long as I get to.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Apr 22, 2022 6:52:45 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

Apr 21, 2022 18:52:23 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Ya'll realize if the NBA Playoffs weren't on, it'd probably have been number one on the entire night, right?

The NBA Playoffs hurt everyone, RAW did a near record low this week going up against them, the fact AEW's holding steady and not bottoming out is actually a good thing, and number 4 on the night is a win. There have been major programming collisions with AEW for weeks now, it's why it's stayed the same but the fact they aren't losing huge chunks is an absolute plus.

It bugs me that almost a million viewers seems to be something to dunk on these days, and I hate to tell you, but the Stanley Cup Playoffs are gonna dig into wrestling too, but the NBA is even worse, it gets a ton of viewers and demo especially in Playoff series.

Dude, chill. Mine was just a stupid joke. I like watching AEW. I don't give a f*** how many other people watch it as long as I get to.

My bad that I put yours in the group, I was pretty sure it was a joke, but after you see enough dumb twitter posts sometimes you aren't entirely sure

That's the right mentality to have btw I think, on the whole matter