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Post by thechase on Apr 26, 2022 0:10:25 GMT -5
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 26, 2022 4:40:19 GMT -5
But why?
Sony is a bunch of god damn idiots. Who is clamoring for this crap? Who wanted Morbius? Who wants Madame Web? Am I an idiot for never have heard of El Muerte before? Why can’t these fools just give people what they want?
More Spiderverse, Venom 3, more Tobey and Andrew and Tom.
It’s not freaking rocket science. But no…let’s still beat that Sinister Six dead horse years later after it killed one franchise dead.
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Post by thechase on Apr 26, 2022 4:55:24 GMT -5
If it's a pro wrestling movie...I want to see WWE promote the heck out of it, have Miz cameo, and give us a ten bell salute for Bonesaw!
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 26, 2022 4:59:14 GMT -5
But why? Sony is a bunch of god damn idiots. Who is clamoring for this crap? Who wanted Morbius? Who wants Madame Web? Am I an idiot for never have heard of El Muerte before? Why can’t these fools just give people what they want? More Spiderverse, Venom 3, more Tobey and Andrew and Tom. It’s not freaking rocket science. But no…let’s still beat that Sinister Six dead horse years later after it killed one franchise dead. Honestly, I always find this logic weird because that isn't ever how stuff works. Because by that logic, I could say "Who asked for an Iron Man movie?" back in 2010 because Iron Man wasn't a character anyone knew about. And who really wanted a Guardians of the Galaxy movie directed by the same guy who wrote Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed? Like, this being made doesn't mean that stuff won't happen. Hell, Venom 3 got announced at that same event. Studios have always raided stuff for things that might work and it'll keep happening. This mostly isn't ever an either or situation. Also, the answer to your question is in the article; Bad Bunny wanted to play a Superhero, Sony went "We have the rights to this dude, have at it" and now we have it.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Apr 26, 2022 5:07:13 GMT -5
Crusher Hogan appears somehow or no buys.
And now I am remembering that one-shot comic about CH that Raven wrote.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Apr 26, 2022 6:39:11 GMT -5
But why? Sony is a bunch of god damn idiots. Who is clamoring for this crap? Who wanted Morbius? Who wants Madame Web? Am I an idiot for never have heard of El Muerte before? Why can’t these fools just give people what they want? More Spiderverse, Venom 3, more Tobey and Andrew and Tom. It’s not freaking rocket science. But no…let’s still beat that Sinister Six dead horse years later after it killed one franchise dead. Re: your wants.... 1. It's coming 2. It'll probably come. 3. ? But yeah, otherwise, that's the ol' Bars of Boredom for you. Lucky for them Warner Bros. exists to be the "bar" for being tone deaf about superhero movies.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 26, 2022 7:35:44 GMT -5
But why? Sony is a bunch of god damn idiots. Who is clamoring for this crap? Who wanted Morbius? Who wants Madame Web? Am I an idiot for never have heard of El Muerte before? Why can’t these fools just give people what they want? More Spiderverse, Venom 3, more Tobey and Andrew and Tom. It’s not freaking rocket science. But no…let’s still beat that Sinister Six dead horse years later after it killed one franchise dead. Re: your wants.... 1. It's coming 2. It'll probably come. 3. ? But yeah, otherwise, that's the ol' Bars of Boredom for you. Lucky for them Warner Bros. exists to be the "bar" for being tone deaf about superhero movies. Oh…I’m all for a well run Spideyverse movie series…but throwing darts at obscure Spidey characters ain’t it. They’re not gonna walk into a Guardians situation…they might but their history says otherwise.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 26, 2022 7:39:38 GMT -5
But why? Sony is a bunch of god damn idiots. Who is clamoring for this crap? Who wanted Morbius? Who wants Madame Web? Am I an idiot for never have heard of El Muerte before? Why can’t these fools just give people what they want? More Spiderverse, Venom 3, more Tobey and Andrew and Tom. It’s not freaking rocket science. But no…let’s still beat that Sinister Six dead horse years later after it killed one franchise dead. Honestly, I always find this logic weird because that isn't ever how stuff works. Because by that logic, I could say "Who asked for an Iron Man movie?" back in 2010 because Iron Man wasn't a character anyone knew about. And who really wanted a Guardians of the Galaxy movie directed by the same guy who wrote Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed? Like, this being made doesn't mean that stuff won't happen. Hell, Venom 3 got announced at that same event. Studios have always raided stuff for things that might work and it'll keep happening. This mostly isn't ever an either or situation. Also, the answer to your question is in the article; Bad Bunny wanted to play a Superhero, Sony went "We have the rights to this dude, have at it" and now we have it. The difference is…fans knew who Iron Man was and thanks to a killer performance and director a lot of fans do now to. That movie made the Avengers a big deal again. I even knew who the Guardians were. Hell I even knew Morbius. I have never heard of El Muerto in my life. Doesn’t mean Bad Bunny won’t do his best to kill the performance if his WWE appearances are any indication since he seems to put his all into it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 26, 2022 7:44:41 GMT -5
The difference is…fans knew who Iron Man was and thanks to a killer performance and director a lot of fans do now to. That movie made the Avengers a big deal again. I even knew who the Guardians were. Hell I even knew Morbius. I have never heard of El Muerte in my life. Doesn’t mean Bad Bunny won’t do his best to kill the performance if his WWE appearances are any indication since he seems to put his all into it. Fans did, sure, but the public at large? Absolutely not. Unless they knew of the mediocre-at-best Iron Man 90s cartoon, that was really the only flagship the guy had. The reason people even talked about it was because it was Robert Downey Jr's comeback film and it was up in the air if it'd do any well considering his own history. And again, fans knew who the Guardians were. Hollywood thought it'd bomb, WWE drove one of its stars away off of that assumption and it didn't because it had the established goodwill of the MCU to make it succeed. But even at the time it wasn't guaranteed. Your point wasn't that fans heard of it but who was asking for it which, again, isn't how things worked. Nobody was asking for an Iron Man movie in 2008 because nobody knew who the f*** the guy was. Maybe this one will do it, who knows? Just that your general point has always been a weird gripe with me.
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Post by thechase on Apr 26, 2022 8:04:33 GMT -5
The difference is…fans knew who Iron Man was and thanks to a killer performance and director a lot of fans do now to. That movie made the Avengers a big deal again. I even knew who the Guardians were. Hell I even knew Morbius. I have never heard of El Muerte in my life. Doesn’t mean Bad Bunny won’t do his best to kill the performance if his WWE appearances are any indication since he seems to put his all into it. Fans did, sure, but the public at large? Absolutely not. Unless they knew of the mediocre-at-best Iron Man 90s cartoonI shall hear no more! Nothing about this is mediocre!
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 26, 2022 8:06:28 GMT -5
Fans did, sure, but the public at large? Absolutely not. Unless they knew of the mediocre-at-best Iron Man 90s cartoonI shall hear no more! Nothing about this is mediocre! Nothing about that intro is mediocre, yes. The show, though, is thoroughly mediocre.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Apr 26, 2022 8:16:54 GMT -5
Poor Iron Man '9x. Where the Fantastic Four cartoon did find its groove in the second season, the Iron Man toon never quite did so.
Another place people may have seen/heard of Iron Man: Marvel Super Heroes and other Capcom fighting games.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 26, 2022 8:50:12 GMT -5
The difference is…fans knew who Iron Man was and thanks to a killer performance and director a lot of fans do now to. That movie made the Avengers a big deal again. I even knew who the Guardians were. Hell I even knew Morbius. I have never heard of El Muerte in my life. Doesn’t mean Bad Bunny won’t do his best to kill the performance if his WWE appearances are any indication since he seems to put his all into it. Fans did, sure, but the public at large? Absolutely not. Unless they knew of the mediocre-at-best Iron Man 90s cartoon, that was really the only flagship the guy had. The reason people even talked about it was because it was Robert Downey Jr's comeback film and it was up in the air if it'd do any well considering his own history. And again, fans knew who the Guardians were. Hollywood thought it'd bomb, WWE drove one of its stars away off of that assumption and it didn't because it had the established goodwill of the MCU to make it succeed. But even at the time it wasn't guaranteed. Your point wasn't that fans heard of it but who was asking for it which, again, isn't how things worked. Nobody was asking for an Iron Man movie in 2008 because nobody knew who the f*** the guy was. Maybe this one will do it, who knows? Just that your general point has always been a weird gripe with me. Let me change my point. I’m all for obscure characters getting movies and shows. I just don’t trust Sony to be the one to do it. Even DC had a pretty good The Suicide Squad.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 26, 2022 9:12:03 GMT -5
I'm happy for Bad Bunny, and that's about where the positives end here.
I'm all for less popular characters getting a spotlight, but El Muerto has made TWO appearances in Marvel Comics. It's like they said "we need a character so obscure, Jackpot and Nightwatch getting movies looks less stupid". I'm not saying Sony should only use Spider-Man and Venom in perpetuity, but how did this get signed off on when Silver Sable is still in developmental hell?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 26, 2022 9:24:21 GMT -5
Let me change my point. I’m all for obscure characters getting movies and shows. I just don’t trust Sony to be the one to do it. Even DC had a pretty good The Suicide Squad. That is completely fair. Sorry, I never meant it to be personal against you, it's just one of my big pet peeves.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Apr 26, 2022 9:36:49 GMT -5
And yet still no Big Wheel movie. What the hell SONY?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 26, 2022 9:42:30 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out...
Apparently using this particular character was Bad Bunny's idea, I assume he found the character description and liked the sound of it since he's also a wrestling guy.
I get it because I do too! Super powered luchadore with a magic mask? Sign me up.
I just wish it wasn't Sony making it.
What's amusing is seeing the reddit r/movies post on this. Quite a bit of "who is Bad Bunny", giving me flashbacks to him getting involved in wrestling. Amusingly some of the answers have been "a wrestler I think?"
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Post by chrom on Apr 26, 2022 9:57:52 GMT -5
People knew who Iron Man was before the 08 film, he may not have been an A Lister like Spider-Man or The X-Men but they could easily recognize who he was if they were shown a picture of him.
Besides, Jackie Chan Adventures already did the Super Powered Luchador with El Fuerte
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 26, 2022 10:04:12 GMT -5
People knew who Iron Man was before the 08 film, he may not have been an A Lister like Spider-Man or The X-Men but they could easily recognize who he was if they were shown a picture of him. Besides, Jackie Chan Adventures already did the Super Powered Luchador with El Fuerte I remember having this Iron Man figure as a kid in the early 90s The armor was lost pretty quickly so it was more like I had a "shirtless Tony Stark" figure
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 26, 2022 12:35:43 GMT -5
El Muerto has appeared in a grand total of 2 issues ever.
Morbius and Kraven are kind of dumb ideas but there's at least history there. This is just all around dumb. El Muerto's creators don't even care about El Muerto.
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