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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 1, 2022 21:08:34 GMT -5
Wasn't his original argument that started all of this I should be paid whatever a main eventer is paid because the booker decides who wins? as if that is literally the only way to show how much worth you have to the company... or like Robert Downey Jr. made the same amount as a random extra in Ironman? Terrence Howard actually got paid more than RDJ for the first Iron Man film. When it was time to do IM2, and RDJ got a pay increase, Howard wanted to be paid just and much, if not more than RDJ. For playing, essentially, his sidekick. We all know what happened after that. Right, Don Cheadle? Terrance Howard might be even more crazy than Ryback. At least as far as I know Ryback has never tried to disprove the existence of math.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 1, 2022 21:25:52 GMT -5
Wasn't his original argument that started all of this I should be paid whatever a main eventer is paid because the booker decides who wins? as if that is literally the only way to show how much worth you have to the company... or like Robert Downey Jr. made the same amount as a random extra in Ironman? Screen Actors Guild has been a thing for decades, and Tom Cruise still gets paid way more than the average Mission: Impossible extra. Biggest difference between wrestling and film is that in film the extras still get paid a reasonable wage and get health insurance. Ryback wanting a more even playing field is reasonable, but the way he went about it was just so, so stupid.
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Post by Chiral on May 1, 2022 21:35:37 GMT -5
I like how that newest tweet somehow has less likes than it did the last time I checked the thread.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 21:41:59 GMT -5
Wasn't his original argument that started all of this I should be paid whatever a main eventer is paid because the booker decides who wins? as if that is literally the only way to show how much worth you have to the company... or like Robert Downey Jr. made the same amount as a random extra in Ironman? Remember when he wanted to get paid to learn MMA so he could come back and work with Brock?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 1, 2022 21:43:32 GMT -5
Wasn't his original argument that started all of this I should be paid whatever a main eventer is paid because the booker decides who wins? as if that is literally the only way to show how much worth you have to the company... or like Robert Downey Jr. made the same amount as a random extra in Ironman? Remember when he wanted to get paid to learn MMA so he could come back and work with Brock? like taking 8 or so months off...
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 21:45:21 GMT -5
Remember when he wanted to get paid to learn MMA so he could come back and work with Brock? like taking 8 or so months off... Do you.. do you need MMA training to fake MMA? Genuine question, here.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 1, 2022 21:47:43 GMT -5
like taking 8 or so months off... Do you.. do you need MMA training to fake MMA? Genuine question, here. PRobably not? even if you did... you would probably need more than 8 months...
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Post by cassonova on May 1, 2022 21:48:15 GMT -5
like taking 8 or so months off... Do you.. do you need MMA training to fake MMA? Genuine question, here. You do if you're Low Ki...
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 21:49:42 GMT -5
Do you.. do you need MMA training to fake MMA? Genuine question, here. PRobably not? even if you did... you would probably need more than 8 months... You work some leg kicks, you learn how to work a single or double leg, and learn BJJ 101 submissions. I could teach my 4 year old niece how to do an armbar.
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Post by bog on May 1, 2022 22:41:46 GMT -5
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Post by lucas_lee on May 1, 2022 23:51:34 GMT -5
Vince McMahon is objectively a worse person thsn Ryback will ever be. I understand the temptation to be one of those saddos who does the worshiping gesture when the funny 99 villain character old man shows up, but this guy has been accused of helping a murderer escape justice and of more than one sexual assault. If you're outraged that some stupid has-been neanderthal said mean things about him and his mother, who was also accused of child sexual abuse, you should re-evaluate your priorities. I personally don't give a shit about either of these two clowns. Ryback is stupid as ehit and McMahon is sleeping on a bed of blood money. Have you ever thought that some of the messed up stuff hes been through shaped him into who he is now? Bringing that up isn't necessary and this is coming from someone who despises Vince as a person
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Post by Teemu on May 2, 2022 2:51:34 GMT -5
What I like about this is, we have this WWE vs. AEW civil war going on, we have the hardcore viewpoint vs. the casual viewpoint thing going, "real pro wrestling" vs. sports entertainment, all this stuff. But one thing we can all agree in on is, holy crap Ryback is a moron and a douchebag. Just in general, not just here lol. I shouldn't even laugh. I've always felt that, no matter who the person is, there's just stuff you shouldn't say and places you shouldn't go to. That's just me. You can dislike, even hate, someone. But you should never stoop to the level of insulting a sexual abuse past, race, sexuality, this kinda stuff. If you want to hate, you can just stick to maturity and the points of discussion. Some bridges shouldn't be crossed. There's just no need.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 2, 2022 5:28:38 GMT -5
Wasn't his original argument that started all of this I should be paid whatever a main eventer is paid because the booker decides who wins? as if that is literally the only way to show how much worth you have to the company... or like Robert Downey Jr. made the same amount as a random extra in Ironman? Terrence Howard actually got paid more than RDJ for the first Iron Man film. When it was time to do IM2, and RDJ got a pay increase, Howard wanted to be paid just and much, if not more than RDJ. For playing, essentially, his sidekick. We all know what happened after that. Right, Don Cheadle? In Howards defense Perlmutter was in charge back then and he was a notorious cheapskate. Howard may have been paid more than Downy for Iron Man but it still may have been crap pay. So he probably deserved a raise, not to Downys level though.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 2, 2022 6:07:56 GMT -5
Terrence Howard actually got paid more than RDJ for the first Iron Man film. When it was time to do IM2, and RDJ got a pay increase, Howard wanted to be paid just and much, if not more than RDJ. For playing, essentially, his sidekick. We all know what happened after that. Right, Don Cheadle? In Howards defense Perlmutter was in charge back then and he was a notorious cheapskate. Howard may have been paid more than Downy for Iron Man but it still may have been crap pay. So he probably deserved a raise, not to Downys level though. What I could find Howard was paid $3.5 to $4.5 million.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on May 2, 2022 6:16:22 GMT -5
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 2, 2022 6:33:11 GMT -5
In Howards defense Perlmutter was in charge back then and he was a notorious cheapskate. Howard may have been paid more than Downy for Iron Man but it still may have been crap pay. So he probably deserved a raise, not to Downys level though. What I could find Howard was paid $3.5 to $4.5 million. Pretty good for Iron Man 1. He should have gotten a raise for 2 with how much 1 made and his part being more substantial in 2. But not to more than Downey though.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 2, 2022 6:47:40 GMT -5
That is one of the most unreasonably egregious things I have seen a wrestler say. And saying this about Vince in particular is wild. You could roast Vince quite comfortably without victim blaming his childhood self and insulting his motherBeyond the absolute horror of what he said, this point really sticks with me too. If he'd said "Vince loves to control and break people" he might have got some people on his side.
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Post by Malcolm on May 2, 2022 10:14:15 GMT -5
Congratulations, Ryback. You've officially made my list of "Shittiest People on Earth".
f*** you for making me side with Vince, Wheatfront.
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Post by Hypnosis on May 2, 2022 11:00:01 GMT -5
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 2, 2022 11:20:27 GMT -5
Ryback does not understand that just because you're slinging shit at someone widely considered "evil", that doesn't make you "good". Sometimes, both sides of a conflict are assholes.
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