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Post by héad.casé on May 6, 2022 7:59:20 GMT -5
“We had 15 to 18 or 22 minutes, originally, got knocked down to like 12 minutes. I remember Rey had this badass cosplay, his gear was made and he spends a lot of money on his gear. Samoa Joe had a different style. I remember it got knocked down to 12-15 minutes and then when I got in the ring, Billy Kidman said, ‘Go home,’ like, right away. Rey’s in the ring already, did his entrance, Samoa Joe is coming down and I’m like, ‘Rey, they’re saying go home right away.’ He’s like, ‘What?’ I’m like, ‘I swear to god.’ He’s like, ‘Chioda, are you f***ing with me?’ I’m like, ‘No, I swear to god he’s telling me you’ve got to.’ “I couldn’t believe they did that to Rey because I don’t think they cut anybody else’s match that night. They didn’t cut anybody else’s matches or anything, it was just Joe and Rey’s match. I felt bad. He just goes in there and kind of demolishes Rey and beats him. I felt bad for Rey, I really did. He was coming back, they had made some promises to him but they’re taking care of him now, him and Dom, which is cool. I think he was going through a little bit of stuff with the company but he’s totally rebounded. Rey is such a professional and such a great person, man, a great guy, and he’s one of my best friends. That was just a bad weekend that weekend, and that was my last WrestleMania.” www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2022/05/mike-chioda-recalls-being-told-to-cut-wrestlemania-match-short-before-it-began/
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 6, 2022 8:04:42 GMT -5
Triple H and Batista really needed to go 25 minutes.
And gosh forbid they cut some time from recaps of what just happened or silly skits.
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Post by clifford on May 6, 2022 8:07:20 GMT -5
Yeah, this is why I have such a hard time arguing against 2-night 'Manias.
And I watched Wrestlemania 35 and I actually don't remember this match even happening.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 6, 2022 8:30:23 GMT -5
Yeah, this is why I have such a hard time arguing against 2-night 'Manias. And I watched Wrestlemania 35 and I actually don't remember this match even happening. Everything after Bryan v Kingston until the main event just blends together. As it relates to this particular match, I don’t recall a lot of people thinking “Time cut?”, most were just kinda happy for Samoa Joe whupping that ass quickly on a big stage, because it’s the kind of win he’d struggle to get for most of his WWE main roster run.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on May 6, 2022 8:33:19 GMT -5
Yeah, this is why I have such a hard time arguing against 2-night 'Manias. And I watched Wrestlemania 35 and I actually don't remember this match even happening. The counter argument would be - why doesn't WWE just get better at it's f***ing time management?
Having to cut matches at the last second on a show that lasted six-and-a-half hours is embarrassing.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 6, 2022 8:53:42 GMT -5
Yeah, this is why I have such a hard time arguing against 2-night 'Manias. And I watched Wrestlemania 35 and I actually don't remember this match even happening. The counter argument would be - why doesn't WWE just get better at it's f***ing time management? Having to cut matches at the last second on a show that lasted six-and-a-half hours is embarrassing.
Because running a live show on the size of Wrestlemania is hard and when something is live, shit happens. Even when they had two nights this year, night 1 went long with various segments going over time and a guy getting injured which messed up the flow of the show & you gotta rebook stuff on the fly. It isn't as easy as just getting better at time management.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 6, 2022 9:02:21 GMT -5
The counter argument would be - why doesn't WWE just get better at it's f***ing time management? Having to cut matches at the last second on a show that lasted six-and-a-half hours is embarrassing.
Because running a live show on the size of Wrestlemania is hard and when something is live, shit happens. Not when the reason you're losing time is pointless recaps and skits. That's just awful time management, full stop.
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Post by The Foreigner™: OffSZN on May 6, 2022 9:02:39 GMT -5
At the time I assumed Rey was injured
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Post by thehottag on May 6, 2022 9:02:56 GMT -5
If I remember, wasn't Rey injured at the time? Thought they went home quick to cover for that.
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Post by cornettesracket on May 6, 2022 9:12:36 GMT -5
Yeah, this is why I have such a hard time arguing against 2-night 'Manias. And I watched Wrestlemania 35 and I actually don't remember this match even happening. I wasn’t a fan of two night manias initially but good god I can’t believe we sat through those marathon manias. It was a slog. Honestly the last few manias before 36 I’d be the same. I could tell you matches that happened on those manias but as far as details I’d be struggling.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 6, 2022 9:13:02 GMT -5
Because running a live show on the size of Wrestlemania is hard and when something is live, shit happens. Not when the reason you're losing time is pointless recaps and skits. That's just awful time management, full stop. Maybe it’s just me, but there were like no skits at all on WrestleMania. Barely even a backstage interview. It was just matches and video packages (half of which are to cover for Peacock going to ads apparently).
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on May 6, 2022 9:17:15 GMT -5
Because running a live show on the size of Wrestlemania is hard and when something is live, shit happens. Not when the reason you're losing time is pointless recaps and skits. That's just awful time management, full stop. Yep.
Also which matches are allocated which amount of time. Did Shane McMahon vs The Miz really justify 15 minutes? Did Batista vs Triple H really need 25 minutes?
Especially on a card where not only did Joe/Rey get cut to under a minute, but you also had Rollins/Brock go 2:30 and Balor/Lashley go 4:05.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 6, 2022 9:19:52 GMT -5
Because running a live show on the size of Wrestlemania is hard and when something is live, shit happens. Not when the reason you're losing time is pointless recaps and skits. That's just awful time management, full stop. There were only 2 recaps & 2 skits that entire Mania & all 4 segments lasted a combined 4 minutes. That Mania was just long because they had a crap ton of matches. They didn't lose time because of the segments and skits. The show was just long and Rey & Joe didn't need 20 minutes anyway that night. Once again even this Wrestlemania, didn't have any skits. It did have recaps after every match but that was because of the commercials on the free version of peacock so that wasn't actually time they could dedicate to match or anything.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 6, 2022 9:21:12 GMT -5
Not when the reason you're losing time is pointless recaps and skits. That's just awful time management, full stop. Yep. Also which matches are allocated which amount of time. Did Shane McMahon vs The Miz really justify 15 minutes? Did Batista vs Triple H really need 25 minutes? Especially on a card where not only did Joe/Rey get cut to under a minute, but you also had Rollins/Brock go 2:30 and Balor/Lashley go 4:05.
None of those 6 were McMahons/family.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 6, 2022 9:23:44 GMT -5
Because running a live show on the size of Wrestlemania is hard and when something is live, shit happens. Not when the reason you're losing time is pointless recaps and skits. That's just awful time management, full stop. And also the fact, until they went to two days, they didn’t really do anything to sort the issues out doesn’t help things. Doing it once is fine, several years in a row you’re just terrible at your job. I’m 99% sure WrestleMania 34 is still going on as we speak. And even then, there’s still time management problems even though they have enough to spread things around.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on May 6, 2022 9:37:38 GMT -5
Weird. Meltzer said at the time Rey was hurt. He reported he injured his ankle on Raw 6 days before Mania, they pulled him from a scheduled match with Andrade on Smackdown and the Mania match with Joe was in doubt then in the end they went with the squash so Rey didn't have to work a proper match.
I'm not saying Chioda's lying but I wouldn't be shocked if some stuff is being misremembered here. There is no reality in which Joe v Mysterio was going to go 22 minutes (or even 15-18) even if they were fully healthy. Orton/Styles was way more high profile and got 16 minutes. The other midcard title match Balor/Lashley went 4 minutes. Roman/Drew got 10. Angle/Corbin got 6. Midcard matches with little build are just not getting 20 minutes on a one night Mania, probably not on the new two night ones either.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 6, 2022 11:23:47 GMT -5
WWE is amazing. All them videos on these shows but trim the match of the literal legend who just came back after coming back from the point of injury oblivion.
“Respect this buisness” but not an ounce of respect for performers, what a joke.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on May 6, 2022 12:01:08 GMT -5
8 hour show and they couldn’t give Rey Mysterio and Samoa Joe at least ten minutes. This f***ing company.
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Post by 4real on May 6, 2022 13:12:35 GMT -5
Giving HHH v Batista 46886 minutes may have been a mistake.
I fell asleep about the same number of times over in that match.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 6, 2022 13:22:09 GMT -5
Not when the reason you're losing time is pointless recaps and skits. That's just awful time management, full stop. Maybe it’s just me, but there were like no skits at all on WrestleMania. Barely even a backstage interview. It was just matches and video packages (half of which are to cover for Peacock going to ads apparently). YEah, there was just constant recaps and the same video package played multiple times.... for the "cause peacock has ads" is a pretty dumb excuse... the idea is get Peacock + without ads... the WWE is basically offering instead of random ads... you get... a long ad for the thing you are already watching... So as incentive I dunno... start one of the overly long entrances that are long just to be long... show an exclusive promo ... do f***ing something other than a promo package you've undoubtedly run for the twentieth time in the show.
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