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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 11, 2022 19:07:57 GMT -5
Even if he does, I don't see it sticking. Nothing about him really screams "major Hollywood star" – handsome, muscular dudes are a dime a dozen, and while he's solid in the Tribal Chief role, he doesn't show off the kind of insane natural charisma that Rock, Cena, and Batista did. Being a big star in WWE doesn't mean shit in Hollywood either, so a lot will depend on getting and nailing that one role – that Luke Hobbs, that Drax, that Peacemaker – that pushes him from "wrestler who acts" to "actor who used to wrestle." He might make a decent living picking up the roles that Jason Momoa is too expensive for, I suppose. That's kinda my thought whenever I see the X is leaving for Hollywood... it's like... yeah everyone says they're doing that... the amount that are actually successful in that endeavor are basically those 3. I mean some have mediocre success in like D-list schlock but that's not really what people mean when they say going to Hollywood. And even Rock, Batista, and Cena had an element of luck to their success. Rock's career was floundering until he was cast in Fast Five, Cena had been bouncing around the periphery of big time Hollywood for years before Peacemaker showed that he had leading man potential, and Batista literally almost bankrupted himself and was close to giving up before he got cast as Drax. Most wrestlers who get into acting end up like Kurrgan, Tyler Mane, Nathan Jones, Kurt Angle, and John Morrison, carving out respectable niches as action movie henchmen and horror movie villains, or in low budget straight-to-VOD stuff. Roman, in my eyes, is probably more likely to be in the latter category than the former. I kinda put Sasha in the same category, though the market for believable female action stars is much more open if that's a path she'd want to take. I could easily see her having a Milla Jovovich-like career.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 11, 2022 19:10:38 GMT -5
That's kinda my thought whenever I see the X is leaving for Hollywood... it's like... yeah everyone says they're doing that... the amount that are actually successful in that endeavor are basically those 3. I mean some have mediocre success in like D-list schlock but that's not really what people mean when they say going to Hollywood. And even Rock, Batista, and Cena had an element of luck to their success. Rock's career was floundering until he was cast in Fast Five, Cena had been bouncing around the periphery of big time Hollywood for years before Peacemaker showed that he had leading man potential, and Batista literally almost bankrupted himself and was close to giving up before he got cast as Drax. Most wrestlers who get into acting end up like Kurrgan, Tyler Mane, Nathan Jones, Kurt Angle, and John Morrison, carving out respectable niches as action movie henchmen and horror movie villains, or in low budget straight-to-VOD stuff. Roman, in my eyes, is probably more likely to be in the latter category than the former. I kinda put Sasha in the same category, though the market for believable female action stars is much more open if that's a path she'd want to take. I could easily see her having a Milla Jovovich-like career. She would need to divorce her husband and marry a director for that.
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Post by stoptheclocks on May 12, 2022 2:20:50 GMT -5
Very happy he’s staying for now but I do think he will leave for Hollywood within the next couple of years. Even if he does, I don't see it sticking. Nothing about him really screams "major Hollywood star" – handsome, muscular dudes are a dime a dozen, and while he's solid in the Tribal Chief role, he doesn't show off the kind of insane natural charisma that Rock, Cena, and Batista did. Being a big star in WWE doesn't mean shit in Hollywood either, so a lot will depend on getting and nailing that one role – that Luke Hobbs, that Drax, that Peacemaker – that pushes him from "wrestler who acts" to "actor who used to wrestle."He might make a decent living picking up the roles that Jason Momoa is too expensive for, I suppose. I don't really get that. If their massive popularity and name value as wrestlers didn't mean shit in Hollywood, why would they be seen as 'wrestler who acts' at all? Surely they'd be viewed the same as any random bodybuilder who fancies a crack at acting. Also, while no doubt their biggest roles, The Rock and Cena had been in tons of proper Hollywood movies before being in Fast5/Suicide Squad that were way above the kind of b movies that Morrison or Kurt Angle have done.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 12, 2022 2:36:55 GMT -5
I don't really get that. If their massive popularity and name value as wrestlers didn't mean shit in Hollywood, why would they be seen as 'wrestler who acts' at all? Surely they'd be viewed the same as any random bodybuilder who fancies a crack at acting. Also, while no doubt their biggest roles, The Rock and Cena had been in tons of proper Hollywood movies before being in Fast5/Suicide Squad that were way above the kind of b movies that Morrison or Kurt Angle have done. Bautista and Jericho have both talked extensively about their experiences trying to crack Hollywood, and both found that their name value as WWE stars meant almost nothing as they were viewed the same as any random bodybuilder when it came to getting auditions. Jericho even made a webseries on the premise, "But I'm Chris Jericho". Both were told several times by casting directors that they had good gigs in wrestling and they should stick with it, ergo "wrestler who acts." And I never said Rock and Cena hadn't been in plenty of things, but Rock's star was on the wane when he was cast in Fast Five after a string of box office bombs, and Cena had been doing stuff here and there but nothing had really caught fire and he was struggling to shake off the stigma of being a "wrestler who acts."
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Post by stoptheclocks on May 12, 2022 2:48:32 GMT -5
I don't really get that. If their massive popularity and name value as wrestlers didn't mean shit in Hollywood, why would they be seen as 'wrestler who acts' at all? Surely they'd be viewed the same as any random bodybuilder who fancies a crack at acting. Also, while no doubt their biggest roles, The Rock and Cena had been in tons of proper Hollywood movies before being in Fast5/Suicide Squad that were way above the kind of b movies that Morrison or Kurt Angle have done. Bautista and Jericho have both talked extensively about their experiences trying to crack Hollywood, and both found that their name value as WWE stars meant almost nothing. Jericho even made a webseries on the premise, "But I'm Chris Jericho". Both were told several times that they had good gigs in wrestling and they should stick with it, ergo "wrestler who acts." And I never said Rock and Cena hadn't been in plenty of things, but Rock's star was on the wane when he was cast in Fast Five, and Cena had been doing stuff here and there but nothing had really caught fire and he was struggling to shake off the stigma of being a "wrestler who acts." There is a world of difference between 'didn't mean shit' and 'allowed them to walk straight in and choose which blockbuster they want to star in'. Both Jericho and Batista had lots of opportunities based on them being popular stars on a popular TV show every week. Anyone saying Roman or Sasha could just leave tomorrow and instantly become a big star in Hollywood is obviously wrong. But anyone who claims that John Cena being an enormously well known (40m+ social media followers) face of a global brand watched by millions hasn't helped him get to where he is now, is also wrong.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on May 12, 2022 3:00:45 GMT -5
Remember when New Jack tried to crack Hollywood? I still think we missed out by not seeing him as Denzel's friend, or f***, Denzel himself.
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Post by thechase on May 12, 2022 14:37:44 GMT -5
Metlz says Reigns is missing Hell In A Cell. So maybe this will be headlined by Seth vs Cody III and the Usos/RKBRO?
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Post by Nosnorb on May 12, 2022 14:50:35 GMT -5
Metlz says Reigns is missing Hell In A Cell. So maybe this will be headlined by Seth vs Cody III and the Usos/RKBRO? Probably Seth vs Cody III. As far as I'm aware, Cody hasn't been in a HiaC match, Orton and Romans Bitches have been in quite a few of them, so they can sell the show as the first time Cody has been in the demonic structure.
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Post by thechase on May 12, 2022 15:09:07 GMT -5
Metlz says Reigns is missing Hell In A Cell. So maybe this will be headlined by Seth vs Cody III and the Usos/RKBRO? Probably Seth vs Cody III. As far as I'm aware, Cody hasn't been in a HiaC match, Orton and Romans Bitches have been in quite a few of them, so they can sell the show as the first time Cody has been in the demonic structure. Legacy vs D-X
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Post by Bo Rida on May 12, 2022 16:58:07 GMT -5
I'm not sure you can use past wrestlers experiences as a basis for current wrestlers chances in Hollywood. Those 3 with sucess will have made casting more open, you can look at their social media to see the inbuilt potential audience and perhaps most importantly there's a never-ending amount of superhero movies/TV shows.
Roman in particular has the biggest star in Hollywood as a cousin, if he wants it he'll get a chance.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on May 13, 2022 1:23:40 GMT -5
Probably Seth vs Cody III. As far as I'm aware, Cody hasn't been in a HiaC match, Orton and Romans Bitches have been in quite a few of them, so they can sell the show as the first time Cody has been in the demonic structure. Legacy vs D-X That won't stop the fed promoting it as a first time ever, especially as it would be his first singles match in there.
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Post by doinkmark on May 13, 2022 6:18:19 GMT -5
So the guy who's coming up on 2 years of beating everybody might leave? Wow. Talk about no reason to invest in WWE's stories. I'm sure he'll lose one match on the way out but I'd say that's not good enough.
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Post by polarbearpete on May 13, 2022 6:27:51 GMT -5
So the guy who's coming up on 2 years of beating everybody might leave? Wow. Talk about no reason to invest in WWE's stories. I'm sure he'll lose one match on the way out but I'd say that's not good enough. He’s not leaving.
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