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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on May 11, 2022 12:40:32 GMT -5
If we’re stealing Taker finishers, I think Rhea could rock the Last Ride. Then go right into the sexy Rhea pin!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 11, 2022 14:26:10 GMT -5
I don't think the Tombstone is banned. Unlike a piledriver the person's head should be nowhere near the ground when doing a tombstone, properly.
That said... we don't need more Edge's Stable is half assed attempt at a new undertaker...
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Post by academicmaroon on May 11, 2022 14:28:54 GMT -5
I don't think the Tombstone is banned. Unlike a piledriver the person's head should be nowhere near the ground when doing a tombstone, properly. That said... we don't need more Edge's Stable is half assed attempt at a new undertaker... You don't think Rhea would be able to perform it properly?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 11, 2022 14:34:50 GMT -5
I don't think the Tombstone is banned. Unlike a piledriver the person's head should be nowhere near the ground when doing a tombstone, properly. That said... we don't need more Edge's Stable is half assed attempt at a new undertaker... You don't think Rhea would be able to perform it properly? No I think she could. I was saying I don't think the Tombstone is banned due to safety reasons. If it is banned it's because it's Taker's move.
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Post by mistery on May 11, 2022 14:57:57 GMT -5
You don't think Rhea would be able to perform it properly? No I think she could. I was saying I don't think the Tombstone is banned due to safety reasons. If it is banned it's because it's Taker's move. It's absolutely banned due to safety reasons. Quite a few wrestlers have come out and said that WWE pretty much forbids any real form of a piledriver. Even their golden children aren't allowed to use one. They banned the move after Owen Hart (who was a safe worker by all accounts) broke Steve Austin's neck. And for all intents and purposes, the Tombstone is a piledriver.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 11, 2022 15:03:49 GMT -5
No I think she could. I was saying I don't think the Tombstone is banned due to safety reasons. If it is banned it's because it's Taker's move. It's absolutely banned due to safety reasons. Quite a few wrestlers have come out and said that WWE pretty much forbids any real form of a piledriver. Even their golden children aren't allowed to use one. They banned the move after Owen Hart (who was a safe worker by all accounts) broke Steve Austin's neck. And for all intents and purposes, the Tombstone is a piledriver. Owen didn't DO a tombstone to break Austin's neck, at least not a traditional one. Owen ended in a sit out position instead of dropping to his knees.
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 11, 2022 16:17:30 GMT -5
Is anyone using the chokebomb right now? Like, a proper sitout chokebomb? Not that choke-lift and haphazardly drop shit that Omos is doing.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 12, 2022 0:41:12 GMT -5
It's absolutely banned due to safety reasons. Quite a few wrestlers have come out and said that WWE pretty much forbids any real form of a piledriver. Even their golden children aren't allowed to use one. They banned the move after Owen Hart (who was a safe worker by all accounts) broke Steve Austin's neck. And for all intents and purposes, the Tombstone is a piledriver. Owen didn't DO a tombstone to break Austin's neck, at least not a traditional one. Owen ended in a sit out position instead of dropping to his knees. A move Rikishi used as a finisher for a bit, too. I do not think piledrivers became verboten until either well into 2000 or 2001, and it wasn't due to Austin, it was because of people getting "stingers", nerve compression.
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Post by pinja on May 12, 2022 0:47:51 GMT -5
Owen didn't DO a tombstone to break Austin's neck, at least not a traditional one. Owen ended in a sit out position instead of dropping to his knees. A move Rikishi used as a finisher for a bit, too.I do not think piledrivers became verboten until either well into 2000 or 2001, and it wasn't due to Austin, it was because of people getting "stingers", nerve compression. He did that instead of the traditional Rikishi Driver where he holds the opponent over his shoulder?
Technically, the Steiner Screwdriver also was the same move, just much more dangerous (what a ludicrous statement).
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Post by Mozenrath on May 12, 2022 0:57:40 GMT -5
A move Rikishi used as a finisher for a bit, too.I do not think piledrivers became verboten until either well into 2000 or 2001, and it wasn't due to Austin, it was because of people getting "stingers", nerve compression. He did that instead of the traditional Rikishi Driver where he holds the opponent over his shoulder? Technically, the Steiner Screwdriver also was the same move, just much more dangerous (what a ludicrous statement).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLhID9HveAcOver the shoulder, sure, to begin with, but then they end up in basically the same position as the piledriver Owen did, Rikishi just had much thicker legs, making it considerably less dangerous for the recipient. Thick thighs save lives.
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Post by pinja on May 12, 2022 2:12:21 GMT -5
He did that instead of the traditional Rikishi Driver where he holds the opponent over his shoulder? Technically, the Steiner Screwdriver also was the same move, just much more dangerous (what a ludicrous statement).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLhID9HveAcOver the shoulder, sure, to begin with, but then they end up in basically the same position as the piledriver Owen did, Rikishi just had much thicker legs, making it considerably less dangerous for the recipient. Thick thighs save lives. Ah, kind of like Taker himself, who'd sometimes have his head between his opponent's legs and sometimes have the legs besides his head (which I preferred visually).
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Post by academicmaroon on May 12, 2022 4:50:23 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLhID9HveAcOver the shoulder, sure, to begin with, but then they end up in basically the same position as the piledriver Owen did, Rikishi just had much thicker legs, making it considerably less dangerous for the recipient. Thick thighs save lives. Ah, kind of like Taker himself, who'd sometimes have his head between his opponent's legs and sometimes have the legs besides his head (which I preferred visually). Why do you prefer both legs beside his head?
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Post by pinja on May 12, 2022 6:27:08 GMT -5
Ah, kind of like Taker himself, who'd sometimes have his head between his opponent's legs and sometimes have the legs besides his head (which I preferred visually). Why do you prefer both legs beside his head? It somehow looks more impactful, trainwrecky. The bouncing is a little different because the opponent isn't as tied to Taker's body. I think the angle is also slightly higher.
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Post by MrElijah on May 12, 2022 7:09:23 GMT -5
How about the Jacknife Power Bomb? Nobody's done that since Nash.
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Post by Tiffany Stratton's Daddy on May 12, 2022 9:57:36 GMT -5
I'm okay with Rhea using Riptide. Even the submission hold of hers is gold.
And this comes from a very anti-Ripley guy.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 12, 2022 11:25:14 GMT -5
Gotta go with the Women's Special Slap.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 12, 2022 13:22:53 GMT -5
There's no easy way for her to transition to her mounted sex pin from it so unlikely. Do a 69 pin like in the AKI N64 games
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Post by CMWaters on May 12, 2022 17:00:20 GMT -5
This thread saying Undertaker was protective of the move and may still be so just reminds me of mid-90s ECW where it seemed to a younger me that every other wrestler there did a Tombstone Piledriver.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 13, 2022 9:19:02 GMT -5
I'm okay with Rhea using Riptide. Even the submission hold of hers is gold. And this comes from a very anti-Ripley guy. Hey, if this guy can learn to like Ripley, then so can you.
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Post by cornettesracket on May 13, 2022 9:50:49 GMT -5
Could it work as a finisher ? Yes, absolutely it could work for her as a finisher, but I don’t think she will be allowed to do it. I agree with the poster who said she should use the last ride because yes it’s known as move the undertaker did for a while but it’s a garden gnome powerbomb and with the women on the roster smaller then her(which is many) the visual could be great. If they shot it like sheamus hitting Jamie noble with his finish on the outside where Jamie Noble looked like he going to come through the screen then great.
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