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Post by msc on Jun 10, 2022 13:11:05 GMT -5
So... Why Nikki and Doudrop? Doudrop has pretty much been established as a "LOL Fatty!" character on the roster who loses all the time, while Nikki ASH has been absolutely wrecked with arguably no point of return for her character. So... logically, WWE would think they'd be perfect for the belts cause their logic insists that midcard champs are perfectly fine losing all the time. Because Scotland. Works for me!
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 10, 2022 13:13:23 GMT -5
So... Why Nikki and Doudrop? Doudrop has pretty much been established as a "LOL Fatty!" character on the roster who loses all the time, while Nikki ASH has been absolutely wrecked with arguably no point of return for her character. So... logically, WWE would think they'd be perfect for the belts cause their logic insists that midcard champs are perfectly fine losing all the time. Because Scotland. Even though no two Scottish people have ever gotten along.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 10, 2022 13:19:50 GMT -5
Even though no two Scottish people have ever gotten along.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jun 12, 2022 19:59:41 GMT -5
I'd rather they just do away with the Tag Titles and replace them with a TV Championship for the women or something... not that I'd really expect it to be booked much better. Only if they unify the Raw and Smackdown Women's Championships. 3 Women's Titles would just be redundant.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 25, 2022 15:53:59 GMT -5
I guess it's safe to say that these titles are pretty much forgotten.....
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 25, 2022 15:57:57 GMT -5
I guess it's safe to say that these titles are pretty much forgotten..... I get not putting anything in place going into Money In The Bank since you need most of your women for the ladder match (plus two title matches), but if there’s nothing doing after that going into SummerSlam…
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 25, 2022 15:57:57 GMT -5
I suppose you can't be accused of mishandling the Women's Tag Team titles if there are no Championships to actually misuse.
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Post by DDonaires on Jun 25, 2022 16:03:08 GMT -5
I really hope they do just quietly retire them. Would be better to finally introduce a Women's mid-tier championship instead. Especially if like a Women's Television Championship that gets defended on any brand.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 25, 2022 16:10:05 GMT -5
I really hope they do just quietly retire them. Would be better to finally introduce a Women's mid-tier championship instead. Especially if like a Women's Television Championship that gets defended on any brand. I agree but they would have to unify the Raw and Smackdown first. Then probably wait a bit before they introduced t he midcard title. If you have the "midcard" champion on both shows then that title would feel bigger then the "big" belts.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 25, 2022 18:35:11 GMT -5
Getting rid of the belts entirely will surely bring them back
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Post by john84 on Jun 25, 2022 22:55:04 GMT -5
I guess it's safe to say that these titles are pretty much forgotten..... Outside of Shayna mentioning the tag division in that video with Ronda I can't think of them mentioning it really after saying there'd be a tournament. As EoE said if they don't start mentioning it after MitB then I think it has been forgotten. As for the idea of a mid-card title, well I've stated in previous threads that I thought mid-card titles were a better idea than tag titles before tag titles were even rumoured. If they were to introduce mid-card titles now (not that I've seen ANY indication that they will lol) I think they probably WILL unify the RAW/SmackDown titles seeing as how they've already done the same basically with the men's tag titles and the WWE/Universal titles.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 26, 2022 5:23:08 GMT -5
IMO women’s tag titles just don’t work outside of all women promotions. The idea might have worked as a sort of network/nxt only exclusive that only shows up to add some extra variety now and then, but as a full time tutor it’s just too ambitious for it’s own good. I think they could've worked had WWE not basically fired most of its women's division over the last couple of years; if they had stuck with the plan of "the champs can work any of the three shows", they'd have had more than enough talent on hand to make 10-20 pairings that could work as at least part-time teams. As it is, yeah, it's absurd. They don't even have enough women to comfortably support their two main roster women's titles, they're certainly not going to have enough for a tag division, not unless they did just make an all-womens show to book them on.
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Post by mistery on Jun 26, 2022 7:25:40 GMT -5
I guess it's safe to say that these titles are pretty much forgotten..... Outside of Shayna mentioning the tag division in that video with Ronda I can't think of them mentioning it really after saying there'd be a tournament. As EoE said if they don't start mentioning it after MitB then I think it has been forgotten. As for the idea of a mid-card title, well I've stated in previous threads that I thought mid-card titles were a better idea than tag titles before tag titles were even rumoured. If they were to introduce mid-card titles now (not that I've seen ANY indication that they will lol) I think they probably WILL unify the RAW/SmackDown titles seeing as how they've already done the same basically with the men's tag titles and the WWE/Universal titles. Take it with a grain of salt as it was from Bryan on WOL a few weeks ago, but from what he's heard, the plans for Mania right now seem to be Becky Lynch vs Ronda Rousey for both the RAW and Smackdown Women's Titles. Admittedly I have like negative levels of interest in actually seeing that match right now. I also think it would be blatantly obvious who wins (Ronda), because FOX is getting pretty much everything when it comes to strong booking.
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Post by john84 on Jun 26, 2022 12:42:55 GMT -5
Outside of Shayna mentioning the tag division in that video with Ronda I can't think of them mentioning it really after saying there'd be a tournament. As EoE said if they don't start mentioning it after MitB then I think it has been forgotten. As for the idea of a mid-card title, well I've stated in previous threads that I thought mid-card titles were a better idea than tag titles before tag titles were even rumoured. If they were to introduce mid-card titles now (not that I've seen ANY indication that they will lol) I think they probably WILL unify the RAW/SmackDown titles seeing as how they've already done the same basically with the men's tag titles and the WWE/Universal titles. Take it with a grain of salt as it was from Bryan on WOL a few weeks ago, but from what he's heard, the plans for Mania right now seem to be Becky Lynch vs Ronda Rousey for both the RAW and Smackdown Women's Titles. Admittedly I have like negative levels of interest in actually seeing that match right now. I also think it would be blatantly obvious who wins (Ronda), because FOX is getting pretty much everything when it comes to strong booking. Well, I can't see Ronda being booked to lose 3 Wrestle Manias in a row so it wouldn't surprise me if she did beat Becky, I'd heard the story about Becky/Ronda being penned for next year's Mania, I think it was around the time it was leaked about Ronda facing Charlotte for this year's Mania. Personally I'm ok with seeing that match since we never got the one-on-one at Mania like we should've had in the first place in Ronda's 1st run. As for them using it to unify the belts, I can see it. Wait and see if they go ahead obviously but it wouldn't be a surprise to me.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 26, 2022 15:04:14 GMT -5
Take it with a grain of salt as it was from Bryan on WOL a few weeks ago, but from what he's heard, the plans for Mania right now seem to be Becky Lynch vs Ronda Rousey for both the RAW and Smackdown Women's Titles. Admittedly I have like negative levels of interest in actually seeing that match right now. I also think it would be blatantly obvious who wins (Ronda), because FOX is getting pretty much everything when it comes to strong booking. Well, I can't see Ronda being booked to lose 3 Wrestle Manias in a row so it wouldn't surprise me if she did beat Becky, I'd heard the story about Becky/Ronda being penned for next year's Mania, I think it was around the time it was leaked about Ronda facing Charlotte for this year's Mania. Personally I'm ok with seeing that match since we never got the one-on-one at Mania like we should've had in the first place in Ronda's 1st run. As for them using it to unify the belts, I can see it. Wait and see if they go ahead obviously but it wouldn't be a surprise to me. I find it hard to believe Ronda would lose three Wrestlemania's in a row too. How long is she sticking around though? I made that point in another thread about it being unlikely she would lose three Mania's in a row but then someone replied that she's done after Mania next year. Unless they get her to do Backlash before she leaves. Then they can have Ronda go over at Mania in some screwy finish before Becky gets her win back at Backlash. Similar to what they did this year with Charlotte and Ronda.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2022 17:22:44 GMT -5
If Ronda wins at Mania I can see the womens MITB winner cashing in on her at Mania or the night after to get the title off of her all while she still gets a mania win.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2022 19:04:29 GMT -5
IMO women’s tag titles just don’t work outside of all women promotions. The idea might have worked as a sort of network/nxt only exclusive that only shows up to add some extra variety now and then, but as a full time tutor it’s just too ambitious for it’s own good. I think they could've worked had WWE not basically fired most of its women's division over the last couple of years; if they had stuck with the plan of "the champs can work any of the three shows", they'd have had more than enough talent on hand to make 10-20 pairings that could work as at least part-time teams. As it is, yeah, it's absurd. They don't even have enough women to comfortably support their two main roster women's titles, they're certainly not going to have enough for a tag division, not unless they did just make an all-womens show to book them on. I believe these were the teams when the titles were created: Riott Squad Fire and Desire Tamina and Nia Boss 'n' Hug The IIconics Fabulous Glow There's no reason why it couldn't have worked, especially when they also had a lot of other women they could've put together.
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Post by john84 on Jun 26, 2022 19:56:51 GMT -5
I think they could've worked had WWE not basically fired most of its women's division over the last couple of years; if they had stuck with the plan of "the champs can work any of the three shows", they'd have had more than enough talent on hand to make 10-20 pairings that could work as at least part-time teams. As it is, yeah, it's absurd. They don't even have enough women to comfortably support their two main roster women's titles, they're certainly not going to have enough for a tag division, not unless they did just make an all-womens show to book them on. I believe these were the teams when the titles were created: Riott Squad Fire and Desire Tamina and Nia Boss 'n' Hug The IIconics Fabulous Glow There's no reason why it couldn't have worked, especially when they also had a lot of other women they could've put together. They also had Asuka and Kairi for a time around the same time as well.
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Post by john84 on Jun 26, 2022 19:58:04 GMT -5
Well, I can't see Ronda being booked to lose 3 Wrestle Manias in a row so it wouldn't surprise me if she did beat Becky, I'd heard the story about Becky/Ronda being penned for next year's Mania, I think it was around the time it was leaked about Ronda facing Charlotte for this year's Mania. Personally I'm ok with seeing that match since we never got the one-on-one at Mania like we should've had in the first place in Ronda's 1st run. As for them using it to unify the belts, I can see it. Wait and see if they go ahead obviously but it wouldn't be a surprise to me. I find it hard to believe Ronda would lose three Wrestlemania's in a row too. How long is she sticking around though? I made that point in another thread about it being unlikely she would lose three Mania's in a row but then someone replied that she's done after Mania next year. Unless they get her to do Backlash before she leaves. Then they can have Ronda go over at Mania in some screwy finish before Becky gets her win back at Backlash. Similar to what they did this year with Charlotte and Ronda. Not entirely sure how long she'll stick around after Mania but I wouldn't be surprised if she's off again after Mania, win or lose.
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Post by gl83 on Jun 26, 2022 20:27:12 GMT -5
I think they could've worked had WWE not basically fired most of its women's division over the last couple of years; if they had stuck with the plan of "the champs can work any of the three shows", they'd have had more than enough talent on hand to make 10-20 pairings that could work as at least part-time teams. As it is, yeah, it's absurd. They don't even have enough women to comfortably support their two main roster women's titles, they're certainly not going to have enough for a tag division, not unless they did just make an all-womens show to book them on. I believe these were the teams when the titles were created: Riott Squad Fire and Desire Tamina and Nia Boss 'n' Hug The IIconics Fabulous Glow There's no reason why it couldn't have worked, especially when they also had a lot of other women they could've put together. Yeah and then a month later the Kabuki Warriors were formed. And then a couple months after that Bliss Cross came together. It really wasn't until mid-2020-early 2021 that the wheels came off with them breaking up tag teams and releasing people in bunches.
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