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Post by XIII on Oct 4, 2024 1:33:50 GMT -5
I’m sure that it is some bizarro fantasy sequence or something and it almost certainly fits into the story they’re trying to tell.
That said….it’s time to retire the Joker for a while. Give me Mr. Freeze, Zsasz, Mad Hatter, King Tut, Really anyone but this f***ing clown.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 4, 2024 1:42:54 GMT -5
I'm quite enjoying the "Todd Phillips has betrayed everybody who made the first film a success" complaints coming from the anti-woke crowd who jerked themselves raw over the first one. That said….it’s time to retire the Joker for a while. Give me Mr. Freeze, Zsasz, Mad Hatter, King Tut, Really anyone but this f***ing clown. I'd be quite content to have Matt Reeves leave Barry Keoghan in that cell for the next two movies. That first movie didn't need a Joker cameo, The Penguin doesn't need a Joker cameo, and none of the sequels need a single maniacal laugh anywhere.
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Post by ayumidah on Oct 4, 2024 1:43:25 GMT -5
Part of me does wonder how Gaga would've done as Harley in a movie set in a more complete DC world. Something not just wrapped up in this version of the Joker.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Oct 4, 2024 2:28:48 GMT -5
I’m sure that it is some bizarro fantasy sequence or something and it almost certainly fits into the story they’re trying to tell. That said….it’s time to retire the Joker for a while. Give me Mr. Freeze, Zsasz, Mad Hatter, King Tut, Really anyone but this f***ing clown. Just gonna walk in, suggest they do a Clock King movie where he's got an elaborate heist/kidnapping plan that takes exactly 2 hours and Batman has to solve it in real-time, and then walk out. (I've had this vague nebulous concept of a movie in my head for a few years, and will trot it out whenever the opportunity presents itself.)
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 4, 2024 3:16:50 GMT -5
I'm quite enjoying the "Todd Phillips has betrayed everybody who made the first film a success" complaints coming from the anti-woke crowd who jerked themselves raw over the first one. That said….it’s time to retire the Joker for a while. Give me Mr. Freeze, Zsasz, Mad Hatter, King Tut, Really anyone but this f***ing clown. I'd be quite content to have Matt Reeves leave Barry Keoghan in that cell for the next two movies. That first movie didn't need a Joker cameo, The Penguin doesn't need a Joker cameo, and none of the sequels need a single maniacal laugh anywhere. Joker didn't just have a cameo in the first Batman, he had a full on deleted scene, so really if you're tired of the Joker you definitely need to be thankful at just the tease lol
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 4, 2024 3:18:06 GMT -5
Part of me does wonder how Gaga would've done as Harley in a movie set in a more complete DC world. Something not just wrapped up in this version of the Joker. The DCU has really taken Multiverse to the next level having like four completely separate movie universes all running parallel to one another (Old dying DCU, Reeves' Batman, Joker, James Gunn's upcoming Universe)
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Post by MrElijah on Oct 4, 2024 3:39:22 GMT -5
People are gonna react like Homer and Bart when they see that it's a musical *Lee Marvin appears as Batman* "Eh, What the hell is going on in my town?!"
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 4, 2024 3:50:33 GMT -5
I really am baffled just how thoroughly this movie seems to just completely miss the point of the first movie. {Spoiler}Like, there's a ton you can criticize about the first movie, I don't even really think it's more than decent and the praise it gets is entirely due to Phoenix's performance, but the movie is at least making a point about how societal neglect can make someone teetering on the edge desperately in need of and wanting help become a monster. This one going, "Oh, no, actually he's just some shitty loser who was entirely lucid the whole time," just renders the first movie devoid of any kind of message or purpose. It turns it into two hours of a guy being a waste of your time that sets up another two hours of that guy wasting your time and then dying horribly.
This is kind of a damning comparison but it's making me think of that piece of shit I'm Not Ashamed movie dramatizing the Columbine shooting for propaganda reasons where they portray the shooters being relentlessly bullied like they have it coming because they went on to be the Columbine shooters. Like, you're just completely failing to recognize the actual problems here.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 4, 2024 5:20:29 GMT -5
This one has certainly cooled off considerably in the past weeks.
$50 mil weekend perhaps, maybe tick under if the unhappy audience reactions hold up.
A real Alice in Wonderland / Alice Through the Looking Glass kinda drop in store here.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 4, 2024 5:58:29 GMT -5
Well the Youtube reviews are starting to pop up and they're just as scathing
MoistCr1TiKaL just uploaded a 17 minute teardown of the film that has 1.5 million views already
Starting to turn from a "Maybe the critics just didn't like it" to a much louder consensus being that this film is a miss
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Oct 4, 2024 7:03:06 GMT -5
I’m sure that it is some bizarro fantasy sequence or something and it almost certainly fits into the story they’re trying to tell. That said….it’s time to retire the Joker for a while. Give me Mr. Freeze, Zsasz, Mad Hatter, King Tut, Really anyone but this f***ing clown. Just gonna walk in, suggest they do a Clock King movie where he's got an elaborate heist/kidnapping plan that takes exactly 2 hours and Batman has to solve it in real-time, and then walk out. (I've had this vague nebulous concept of a movie in my head for a few years, and will trot it out whenever the opportunity presents itself.) Well if we're just throwing out every vague, nebulous concept for a Batman movie that we're all just looking for an excuse to throw out, then I'd like to mention my Batman alien abduction movie idea where Batman gets abducted by the Dominators and has to team with Spoiler and a group of C-list villains to free themselves, rescue other civilian abductees, hijack the ship and return to Earth to warn them of the upcoming pending invasion.
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Post by thechase on Oct 4, 2024 7:15:41 GMT -5
RT Score: 39%. That's a lower score than Madame Web!
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 4, 2024 7:17:12 GMT -5
RT Score: 39%. That's a lower score than Madame Web! Fan score is at least, though critical one is much higher. Though the fan score is also significantly lower than Morbius. Truly Jared Leto was the true Joker all along.
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Post by BRV on Oct 4, 2024 13:35:33 GMT -5
This felt doomed from the jump. As soon as it was given the pretentious French subtitle, and then it was announced that it was going to be a musical, we all should have seen this coming. And between Todd Phillips, Joaquin Phoenix, and Lady Gaga, you have three people who've never had anyone in their inner circle tell them, "Hey, that's a bad idea." And if they have had someone tell them that, they've never listened.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 4, 2024 13:51:18 GMT -5
I read a leaked plot summary that if accurate, is astoundingly stupid and far worse than I ever imagined.
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Post by burdette25159 on Oct 4, 2024 14:28:54 GMT -5
Have a feeling that Venom the Last Dance will have a better opening weekend than Joker Foloe A Deux
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Post by PHD-FENDERBAUM on Oct 4, 2024 14:32:45 GMT -5
The only positive I have heard about this is that visually it is a great looking movie and that is it.
They f***ed up out the gate making this a musical and clearly they knew they did as already pointed out with them never actually marketing this movie as as musical.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 4, 2024 14:41:04 GMT -5
I’m sure that it is some bizarro fantasy sequence or something and it almost certainly fits into the story they’re trying to tell. That said….it’s time to retire the Joker for a while. Give me Mr. Freeze, Zsasz, Mad Hatter, King Tut, Really anyone but this f***ing clown. Just gonna walk in, suggest they do a Clock King movie where he's got an elaborate heist/kidnapping plan that takes exactly 2 hours and Batman has to solve it in real-time, and then walk out. (I've had this vague nebulous concept of a movie in my head for a few years, and will trot it out whenever the opportunity presents itself.) Clayface movie where its not announced before hand that the villain is clayface. And Batman has to do detective work... Maybe throw in villain cameos as clayface impersonating them.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 4, 2024 14:42:37 GMT -5
RT Score: 39%. That's a lower score than Madame Web! Fan score is at least, though critical one is much higher. Though the fan score is also significantly lower than Morbius. Truly Jared Leto was the true Joker all along. True cinema was when the Joker said it's Jonkin time.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 4, 2024 14:43:10 GMT -5
This felt doomed from the jump. As soon as it was given the pretentious French subtitle, and then it was announced that it was going to be a musical, we all should have seen this coming. And between Todd Phillips, Joaquin Phoenix, and Lady Gaga, you have three people who've never had anyone in their inner circle tell them, "Hey, that's a bad idea." And if they have had someone tell them that, they've never listened. The French subtitle is a medical diagnosis so it kinda made sense
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