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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 5, 2024 3:29:51 GMT -5
It is really eye-rolling that all of the, "Get woke, go broke," idiots are hopping on this saying that that's the reason this movie sucks and is flopping. What's even supposed to be woke about it, the fact that it features the presence of a person with a uterus?
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Post by Display Name on Oct 5, 2024 4:11:54 GMT -5
I really, really liked the first one, but this was just okay. I knew it was a musical from the get-go, but for some reason, I wasn’t expecting that many musical numbers. I do give it credit for doing something unique with tired ass Joker and Harley though.
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Post by schma on Oct 5, 2024 5:18:47 GMT -5
Have a feeling that Venom the Last Dance will have a better opening weekend than Joker Foloe A Deux Now watch it turn out to be a musical.
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Post by schma on Oct 5, 2024 5:26:02 GMT -5
I found the first Joker okay, though I still argue it wasn't a Joker movie. That character wasn't the Joker. Apart from that it was alright I guess. So I was already kinda on the fence about seeing this. After reading this thread I suspect I'm going to give this a pass unless I'm super bored one day.
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Post by XIII on Oct 5, 2024 5:33:28 GMT -5
How long until people start telling people that it’s a good movie and they just missed the point of it?
< Goes to YouTube and Reddit comments> Well, that was fast.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 5, 2024 6:02:53 GMT -5
The more I see the more it does feel like Phillips was just like "I wanted to make one movie and because this won an Oscar and made a f***ton of money you forced me to make another one, so I'm gonna go ahead and make you pay for that" to WBD lmfao
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Oct 5, 2024 6:04:10 GMT -5
Is it really that bad? I have plans to see it next week. I can stomach a movie being bad, but NOT a movie being boring. I might knock it on the head and do something else yes. the only good thing this movie has going for it is that word of mouth is so terrible that it might escape being put to trial for what causes events near the end of the movie. I say this as someone smack dab in the hipster bullshit frou frou musicals space this hack probably wanted this shit to be in, it might be the most boring “blockbuster” film ever made. Excruciating movie. The rumor going around that Phoenix and Gaga evidently somehow made constant script changes makes it even worse, this is a film that hates itself and everyone else.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 5, 2024 6:08:20 GMT -5
Is it really that bad? I have plans to see it next week. I can stomach a movie being bad, but NOT a movie being boring. I might knock it on the head and do something else yes. the only good thing this movie has going for it is that word of mouth is so terrible that it might escape being put to trial for what causes events near the end of the movie. I say this as someone smack dab in the hipster bullshit frou frou musicals space this hack probably wanted this shit to be in, it might be the most boring “blockbuster” film ever made. Excruciating movie. The rumor going around that Phoenix and Gaga evidently somehow made constant script changes makes it even worse, this is a film that hates itself and everyone else. I do love Gaga as an artist and in most every interview she comes off like a chill as hell person, but this really in the end is just feeling like she used this as an excuse to try and Oscar bait a Nomination again and write/release a new album based on her Harley interpretation Like very much she drove past the fire and thought "How could this benefit me?" lol
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 5, 2024 6:10:55 GMT -5
Cinemascore is D, which is kind of utterly insane for a blockbuster like this. That's lower than Megalopolis and is actually the lowest ever both for a comic book movie and for Warner Bros.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 5, 2024 6:14:33 GMT -5
It's so funny that after all is said and done and this movie likely stays a critical (and maybe commercial) flop compared to the expectation, that Lady Gaga still might just stroll awa with some Grammy's and call it a day lmfao
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Oct 5, 2024 6:17:27 GMT -5
I had very little interest in this but seeing how bad the reviews are, now I wanna see it. It sounds positively deranged. i should‘be just sat in the lobby You and Dolin are neck-and-neck in the "someone's gonna so swipe this for their Joker II LetterBox Review" category.
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Post by schma on Oct 5, 2024 6:18:04 GMT -5
The more I see the more it does feel like Phillips was just like "I wanted to make one movie and because this won an Oscar and made a f***ton of money you forced me to make another one, so I'm gonna go ahead and make you pay for that" to WBD lmfao I just looked it up and I cannot fathom how the first movie warranted 11 oscar nominations. Mind boggling.
Also, how twisted is Hollywood that someone could concievably deliberately destroy a $140 million movie because they didn't want to make it and 'had no choice'.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 5, 2024 6:18:54 GMT -5
It's so funny that after all is said and done and this movie likely stays a critical (and maybe commercial) flop compared to the expectation, that Lady Gaga still might just stroll awa with some Grammy's and call it a day lmfao It's safe to already call it a commercial flop. Between the slow ticket sales and poor Thursday numbers, the incredibly vicious word of mouth, Venom coming up, and the fact it still has a couple of weeks before it comes out in Japan and China, yeah, there is absolutely no chance in the world this movie's going to make the $400-$500 million it needs to break even. I wouldn't be shocked if it's on Max before the end of November.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Oct 5, 2024 6:20:36 GMT -5
yes. the only good thing this movie has going for it is that word of mouth is so terrible that it might escape being put to trial for what causes events near the end of the movie. I say this as someone smack dab in the hipster bullshit frou frou musicals space this hack probably wanted this shit to be in, it might be the most boring “blockbuster” film ever made. Excruciating movie. The rumor going around that Phoenix and Gaga evidently somehow made constant script changes makes it even worse, this is a film that hates itself and everyone else. I really do love Gaga, but this really in the end is just feeling like she used this as an excuse to try and Oscar bait a Nomination again and write/release a new album based on her Harley interpretation Like very much she drove past the fire and thought "How could this benefit me?" lol Phoenix is the same way, he’s had plenty of rumors about his on set behavior and they’re peas in a pod at best. She simply doesn’t get enough screen time to get the majority of that blame, I’m looking at Phillips and Phoenix but she’s in there too if that rumor is accurate. I don’t think anyone expected an Oscar like the first one but we also shouldn’t have gotten something worse than Morbius. I hate superhero media and this shit has made me look at all of it in a different light.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Oct 5, 2024 6:22:19 GMT -5
Also yes, Megapolis is better. I thought it was at least entertaining by how bad it was and the story behind it. The ingrown toe nail of film, joker 2
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 5, 2024 6:24:32 GMT -5
I said $50 mil weekend, this may dip around $40 mil. Bear in mind even like five or six weeks back, some were still confidently saying $100 mil plus. The more I see the more it does feel like Phillips was just like "I wanted to make one movie and because this won an Oscar and made a f***ton of money you forced me to make another one, so I'm gonna go ahead and make you pay for that" to WBD lmfao I've heard a few people suggest that - which really says a lot to what a mess this film is - but my main issue is that it'd be career suicide by Phillips. I'd rather put this down to misplaced incompetence than actual malice. Having made this, major studios will really not want to trust him with creative freedom and a hefty budget.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 5, 2024 6:31:54 GMT -5
I think I come down somewhere in the middle. I think Phillips genuinely wanted to make a great movie, I just also kind of think he was wanting to make a great movie designed to completely undermine and deconstruct the first one. I think he thought it was being meta and artsy but really it was just being edgy and depressing.
Granted Phillips is also an asshole whose only good previous movies have been ripoffs of others and says he stopped doing comedy because PC culture makes it too hard to write jokes anymore, so him trying to do something ambitious is probably just a kiss of death in its own right.
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Post by jm on Oct 5, 2024 7:53:13 GMT -5
yes. the only good thing this movie has going for it is that word of mouth is so terrible that it might escape being put to trial for what causes events near the end of the movie. I say this as someone smack dab in the hipster bullshit frou frou musicals space this hack probably wanted this shit to be in, it might be the most boring “blockbuster” film ever made. Excruciating movie. The rumor going around that Phoenix and Gaga evidently somehow made constant script changes makes it even worse, this is a film that hates itself and everyone else. I do love Gaga as an artist and in most every interview she comes off like a chill as hell person, but this really in the end is just feeling like she used this as an excuse to try and Oscar bait a Nomination again and write/release a new album based on her Harley interpretation Like very much she drove past the fire and thought "How could this benefit me?" lol Yeah I said recently that this felt like Gaga was hired to do the film and then it became a musical because of her involvement. The fact that she's releasing an album literally entitled "Harlequin" really does give the game away.
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Post by jm on Oct 5, 2024 7:53:57 GMT -5
Have a feeling that Venom the Last Dance will have a better opening weekend than Joker Foloe A Deux Now watch it turn out to be a musical. Tom Hardy doing musical numbers as Venom?? Give that film ALL of the Oscars!!!!
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Post by jm on Oct 5, 2024 7:56:31 GMT -5
The more I see the more it does feel like Phillips was just like "I wanted to make one movie and because this won an Oscar and made a f***ton of money you forced me to make another one, so I'm gonna go ahead and make you pay for that" to WBD lmfao I just looked it up and I cannot fathom how the first movie warranted 11 oscar nominations. Mind boggling.
Also, how twisted is Hollywood that someone could concievably deliberately destroy a $140 million movie because they didn't want to make it and 'had no choice'.
Ask Sam Raimi. The same thing pretty much happened with Spiderman 3.
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