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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 8, 2022 16:26:17 GMT -5
You know Vince sent these women 10 second videos of him jerking off that had 4 camera cuts and missed the money shot “It’s sauce time!” - Michael Cole Vince would tell Dunn to film him jerking off. And little lapdog Dunn would jump at the opportunity.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Jul 8, 2022 16:29:19 GMT -5
So what's the general verdict? Is Vince going to actually suffer a consequence for an action? Or is he just going to pretend to sit on the sidelines until people stop talking about this and the investigation "finds nothing"? Doubtful. If the NDA's hold up, all we actually have here is anonymous friends who have themselves remained anonymous telling the WSJ that things have happened, and then WSJ have confirmed he paid some women. We dont actually know at all the real details, and likely never will, but that's almost beside the point. You dont need a conviction for the court of public opinion, and you don't need one for the sponsors and other celebs etc. to get cold feet working with WWE. That'll hurt more than anything, as Vince is likely safe from any criminal actions, at least so far, and it's that - that the sponsors and bigger stars refuse to be involved - that will cause his push out. That doesnt mean he wont still be the principal stock holder, but it does mean he may be off TV and out of the back.....but if I'm honest, as much as I am excited at the idea of seeing a WWE without Vince, I just don't see it actually coming off. I think if he can't be a part of it, he either sales it or he clings on and tanks it at the alter of his pride. NDAs are almost worthless when it comes to allegations that become public via a third party (the cats already out of the bag, why drag the story out even further by going to court?) and they're entirely worthless against any criminal activity which is what is being alleged with these most recent allegations.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 8, 2022 16:43:45 GMT -5
Looking at it from a different angle, John Cena's team of people must be tearing their hair out that he was seen on screen with Mcmahon only last week. I don't see for example Dwayne Johnson going anywhere near WWE any time soon. Cena still showed up after the first report. And, I mean, it wouldn’t be the first time he’s done work for unsavory organizations… P.S: Taiwan IS a country, John.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jul 8, 2022 16:54:52 GMT -5
Whether it's now or later it's going to be such a shock to Vince's ego when he realizes that life will go on without him. He seems to think he HAS to be in charge. No one else is capable of doing the job. He's brainwashed some shareholders/executives into thinking it too. Remember how some were panicking when they did the limo explosion and Vince selling to Trump angles because people were worried what would happen without Vince in charge?
Realistically what will happen is the stock will take a slight dip in the days after his departure due to the uncertainty then after a few weeks shareholders will realize oh, shows are still running, ratings are the same, seems like business as usual...is it possible Vince wasn't as necessary as we thought? No one can deny the impact he had in making it what it became but once you become a billion dollar corporation you're Dr. Frankenstein and your creation will outlast you. It's bigger than you now. You're not needed. We saw it with Jeff Bezos/Amazon and so many others.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 8, 2022 16:56:55 GMT -5
Yeah it didn't make Cena look good being next to Vince, but I still believe the reason he no longer seems booked is because of the Vince situation as well
That speech he gave seemed very much like a "I'll wrestle again... but not right now".
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Post by honsou on Jul 8, 2022 17:01:39 GMT -5
Vince probably only gets removed if sponsors start pulling out and given how WWE already kinda scrapes the bottom of the barrel when it comes to those anyway, its pretty unlikely that happens. If there was a TV deal coming up maybe that might effect it but its Vince and its wrestling, nothing is going to happen
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 8, 2022 17:14:44 GMT -5
There's no coming back from this. End of
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Post by markymark on Jul 8, 2022 17:15:33 GMT -5
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Post by Legion on Jul 8, 2022 17:16:12 GMT -5
Doubtful. If the NDA's hold up, all we actually have here is anonymous friends who have themselves remained anonymous telling the WSJ that things have happened, and then WSJ have confirmed he paid some women. We dont actually know at all the real details, and likely never will, but that's almost beside the point. You dont need a conviction for the court of public opinion, and you don't need one for the sponsors and other celebs etc. to get cold feet working with WWE. That'll hurt more than anything, as Vince is likely safe from any criminal actions, at least so far, and it's that - that the sponsors and bigger stars refuse to be involved - that will cause his push out. That doesnt mean he wont still be the principal stock holder, but it does mean he may be off TV and out of the back.....but if I'm honest, as much as I am excited at the idea of seeing a WWE without Vince, I just don't see it actually coming off. I think if he can't be a part of it, he either sales it or he clings on and tanks it at the alter of his pride. NDAs are almost worthless when it comes to allegations that become public via a third party (the cats already out of the bag, why drag the story out even further by going to court?) and they're entirely worthless against any criminal activity which is what is being alleged with these most recent allegations. But it will still need the person involved to actually come forward, and for there to be enough evidence to go to trail. Hence, it 'doesnt matter' from a legal standpoint right now, unless we see evidence. But that is where the public opinion comes in, public opinion doesnt need evidence and it's getting to the point, or is potentially beyond the point, that it wont be able to be ignored.
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Post by Legion on Jul 8, 2022 17:17:47 GMT -5
That is so insane to me. That he still commands that much loyalty, even though most people actually involved must know that they'd do so much better without him at this point. The cult of personality should be Vince's theme tune at this point!
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 8, 2022 17:20:03 GMT -5
That is so insane to me. That he still commands that much loyalty, even though most people actually involved must know that they'd do so much better without him at this point. The cult of personality should be Vince's theme tune at this point!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 17:33:52 GMT -5
I wonder what other butterfly effects this could have if he doesn't go? Off the top of my head Reigns and Ronda don't need the money and may have future working interests outside the company.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jul 8, 2022 17:37:25 GMT -5
I am not worth love and acceptance like others so forgive me in advance for asking such a dullard of a question, but, why is it that you have people like him, who has money, power, but more importantly than anything else, a family, and yet it isn't enough? I mean, I have had to go to the grocery store several times in the last few days and I feel guilty over that. Not only that, after weeks of putting it off, I finally caved in and went to Gamestop to buy something, but I ended up leaving because I just thought about the many games I already have.....and some dumbass was holding up the line. My point I'm trying to make is I don't get how he can have so much and not be satisfied. Jeff Bezos. the man has more money than he could ever spend, he could literally end world hunger and still be rich yet he just keeps making more, why because to him the more he has the more he can brag to the other rich people. In animals of 1 monkey hoarded all the bananas and didn't let the others have any, we would study him and wonder what was wrong with him...when people hoard all the wealth and don't share we call that capitalism. Meanwhile his employees can’t take a piss or they’ll lose the job. Is it wrong I despise him more than Vince?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 8, 2022 17:40:32 GMT -5
I love how he openly stated he'd step back from duties and Stephanie would be doing more, and as it's gotten worse, he's been more present than he has been in years Dude's a demon
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Post by bob on Jul 8, 2022 17:41:21 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 8, 2022 17:41:23 GMT -5
If WWE can't survive with Vince McMahon in power... then maybe it wasn't as "idiot proof" as we thought it was tbh.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 8, 2022 17:41:56 GMT -5
ESPN was/is one of WWE's best mainstream partners these days, so for them to pick this up is not good for them.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jul 8, 2022 17:43:43 GMT -5
A man who has portrayed himself as a sexual predator for nearly 25 years turns out to actually be a sexual predator.....what a shock.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 8, 2022 17:43:49 GMT -5
Yeah it didn't make Cena look good being next to Vince, but I still believe the reason he no longer seems booked is because of the Vince situation as well That speech he gave seemed very much like a "I'll wrestle again... but not right now". I'm not even sure Cena cares, as harsh as that sounds. Dude is the ultimate company personified, I wouldnt be surprised if he #StandsWithWWE Maybe if he hurts his chances of getting new roles.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 8, 2022 17:44:43 GMT -5
A man who has portrayed himself as a sexual predator for nearly 25 years turns out to actually be a sexual predator.....what a shock. The Joey Ryan method!
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