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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 12, 2022 7:42:06 GMT -5
Apparently, after Smackdown this evening, Vince is travelling to Canada to meet with Cena to try and convince him to come do something for Summerslam. I'm thinking Cena, and then later Rock, slam the door in his face. Even if they love him like a father and feel they owe him and love the business and the fans, no way their management and those around them let them anywhere near this situation for now. Or at least, if I was the advisors, that's what I'd be telling them. I wonder how this will effect The Rocks presidential run in '32? Camacho is going to beat him in a landslide
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 12, 2022 7:51:38 GMT -5
Camacho is going to beat him in a landslide I sort of want this to happen just so The Rock's campaign team have to make an attack ad from the fact he didn't catch Hunico in the 2012 Royal Rumble. "If this man can't catch his tag team partner, how is he supposed to catch your social security?! Rock 2032!"
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jul 12, 2022 8:00:23 GMT -5
I wonder how this will effect The Rocks presidential run in '32? Camacho is going to beat him in a landslide They'll be battling over the first name Dwayne. And only then if it's Terry Crews reprising the role running for office. Might as well go all in on the eventuality of Idiocracy happening.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 12, 2022 10:02:02 GMT -5
Cena came back after the first accusation in June. Cena's already shown he's willing to go back to Vince. He's a WWE flavor aid guy, probably learned about "loyalty" from the Undertaker's and others from that horrible early 2000s locker room while Dwayne was already a huge star and gone. Dwayne is in a group of stars far beyond Cena. Dwayne is bigger than wrestling and I think as much as Cena does in Hollywood he will be just like Vince, seen as a "wrestling guy" and it won't hurt him as much to come back and show that distorted "loyalty." I'm also sure it strokes Cena's ego, just like Vince, to see all the love the WWE Universe and WWE has for him.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 12, 2022 10:13:18 GMT -5
Jesus christ so many people are so fast to jump. What a god damn world. Jump to what exactly? I can open my window and be pelted by new evidence.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Jul 12, 2022 10:34:08 GMT -5
Cena came back after the first accusation in June. Cena's already shown he's willing to go back to Vince. He's a WWE flavor aid guy, probably learned about "loyalty" from the Undertaker's and others from that horrible early 2000s locker room while Dwayne was already a huge star and gone. Dwayne is in a group of stars far beyond Cena. Dwayne is bigger than wrestling and I think as much as Cena does in Hollywood he will be just like Vince, seen as a "wrestling guy" and it won't hurt him as much to come back and show that distorted "loyalty." I'm also sure it strokes Cena's ego, just like Vince, to see all the love the WWE Universe and WWE has for him. I would guess they'll make a PR distinction between Vince and the WWE. There hasn't been a wave of outrage whereby sponsors are leaving left and right and the WWE itself is seen as being toxic. So far it's been more like if some scandal involving Goodell emerged - bad publicity for him, but otherwise the NFL would carry on as normal.
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Post by khali on Jul 12, 2022 11:15:17 GMT -5
Jesus christ so many people are so fast to jump. What a god damn world. Ah yes, I’m sure the real answer is that Vince paid over $10 million to various women out of the goodness of his heart.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 11:20:15 GMT -5
Jesus christ so many people are so fast to jump. What a god damn world. Ah yes, I’m sure the real answer is that Vince paid over $10 million to various women out of the goodness of his heart. I've been trying to find nicer ways to put this, but I can't really think of one. You don't pay out that kind of money if you had sex just for the sake of having sex. I'm sure sex occurred, but I'm guessing it was about the power play than the act itself, because, to put it bluntly, if Vince were just looking to get his rocks off, he could just... get a high-priced sex worker. He didn't, so that paints all of this in an even more gross light.
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Post by khali on Jul 12, 2022 11:41:08 GMT -5
Ah yes, I’m sure the real answer is that Vince paid over $10 million to various women out of the goodness of his heart. I've been trying to find nicer ways to put this, but I can't really think of one. You don't pay out that kind of money if you had sex just for the sake of having sex. I'm sure sex occurred, but I'm guessing it was about the power play than the act itself, because, to put it bluntly, if Vince were just looking to get his rocks off, he could just... get a high-priced sex worker. He didn't, so that paints all of this in an even more gross light. That is a key thing here. You have to ask the question of why NDAs were needed. It’s not about infidelity. No one would care about that. The existence of so many NDAs tells you that stuff happened that they didn’t want out.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 12, 2022 11:47:30 GMT -5
The thing is with people like this, it isn't about the sex, it's about them enjoying the power disparity.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 12, 2022 12:00:27 GMT -5
The thing is with people like this, it isn't about the sex, it's about them enjoying the power disparity. Absolutely. "Look how much money I have. How much power. Look what I can make you do." Horrible and scummy way to treat people.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 12, 2022 12:38:41 GMT -5
Jesus christ so many people are so fast to jump. What a god damn world. Him paying out 12 mil isn't even something they're denying. No one has to jump to any conclusions when they can turn their head and see another one
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Jul 12, 2022 13:35:24 GMT -5
I've been trying to find nicer ways to put this, but I can't really think of one. You don't pay out that kind of money if you had sex just for the sake of having sex. I'm sure sex occurred, but I'm guessing it was about the power play than the act itself, because, to put it bluntly, if Vince were just looking to get his rocks off, he could just... get a high-priced sex worker. He didn't, so that paints all of this in an even more gross light. That is a key thing here. You have to ask the question of why NDAs were needed. It’s not about infidelity. No one would care about that. The existence of so many NDAs tells you that stuff happened that they didn’t want out. NDAs are common for high-profile people in general, especially when sex is involved. But the combo of multiple 7 figure payouts to employees with stringent NDAs attached...that's the biggest red flag that I've ever seen in one of these scandals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 13:42:41 GMT -5
That is a key thing here. You have to ask the question of why NDAs were needed. It’s not about infidelity. No one would care about that. The existence of so many NDAs tells you that stuff happened that they didn’t want out. NDAs are common for high-profile people in general, especially when sex is involved. But the combo of multiple 7 figure payouts to employees with stringent NDAs attached...that's the biggest red flag that I've ever seen in one of these scandals. Yeah, if Vince had brought in a high-priced call girl and then paid her for sex after the agreement of an NDA, that would be a bit weird and skeezy out of a 70 something year old man who's married, but it wouldn't be as insidious as "I used my influence as the boss to make an employee think that they must provide sexual favors for me" That's the big key here. "Billionaire paying for sex" is not exactly headline material, but it is within the context of it being a subordinate employee. I don't know how anyone could see differently.
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Post by XIII on Jul 12, 2022 13:43:05 GMT -5
Russo swerve: the NDA’s only pertain to the discussion of Vince’s small wang.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 12, 2022 13:49:23 GMT -5
I wonder what Vince, Dan Snyder, and that guy from Blizzard would talk about in an elevator.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 12, 2022 13:51:38 GMT -5
This is what's wrong with our world today: everyone is so ready to read the thread and to read the multiple articles from a respected news outlet so that they understand a situation.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jul 12, 2022 13:58:13 GMT -5
I wonder what Vince, Dan Snyder, and that guy from Blizzard would talk about in an elevator. There would probably be some poop jokes in there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 13:59:51 GMT -5
This is what's wrong with our world today: everyone is so ready to read the thread and to read the multiple articles from a respected news outlet so that they understand a situation. You damn kids with your verified and checked sources and data
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 12, 2022 14:47:54 GMT -5
NDAs are common for high-profile people in general, especially when sex is involved. But the combo of multiple 7 figure payouts to employees with stringent NDAs attached...that's the biggest red flag that I've ever seen in one of these scandals. Yeah, if Vince had brought in a high-priced call girl and then paid her for sex after the agreement of an NDA, that would be a bit weird and skeezy out of a 70 something year old man who's married, but it wouldn't be as insidious as "I used my influence as the boss to make an employee think that they must provide sexual favors for me" That's the big key here. "Billionaire paying for sex" is not exactly headline material, but it is within the context of it being a subordinate employee. I don't know how anyone could see differently. I initially read this as "high-priced catgirl" and am split on if that is a thing Vince would absolutely do or if it's something he would have absolutely zero concept of.
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