Mochi Lone Wolf
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 3, 2022 19:25:14 GMT -5
People want clearly defined babyfaces but complain in a situation like this. I just want characters to act like people - both heels and faces. I think the easy thing to do is just have her sell and follow up on TV because it's hard to believe a face getting screwed like this would react like that in the moment. Perhaps after time to reflect, this kind of reaction would be more believable. I would've also had the same reaction if Hardy did the same thing when Punk cashed in on him. You can be a face but also pissed off that you just lost a world title all because someone else decided to pounce on you when you were at your weakest. Any character who complains about MITB at this point isn’t sympathetic and believable, they’re whiny and dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 19:52:59 GMT -5
The cheap cash in is a heel move.
I'm over the moon Liv won but honestly, I would've popped huge if she took a chair to Ronda's knee and completely snapped and then won the title.
Her winning the title was a feel good moment but it could've been done better.
In all honesty, I hate the whole "Let's hug cause we are making history" garbage that the women in WWE always seem to do. Remember when the first Rumble and first female PPV was announced and all the faces and heels were hugging each other and smiling? Ugh.
Imagine that was the guys after the first Elimination Chamber was announced.
Keep kayfabe, for christ sakes. Ronda should've been fuming after Liv stole her title.
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Post by gnr123 on Jul 4, 2022 0:10:40 GMT -5
People want clearly defined babyfaces but complain in a situation like this. I just want characters to act like people - both heels and faces. I think the easy thing to do is just have her sell and follow up on TV because it's hard to believe a face getting screwed like this would react like that in the moment. Perhaps after time to reflect, this kind of reaction would be more believable. I would've also had the same reaction if Hardy did the same thing when Punk cashed in on him. You can be a face but also pissed off that you just lost a world title all because someone else decided to pounce on you when you were at your weakest. But Ronda didn't get screwed out of anything. It's not like she was in a 30-minute iron-man match, or an Elimination Chamber where Ronda started the match, or a Fatal 4-Way, or any other "grueling" match. It's not like The Judgement Day came out and helped Rhea Ripley attack Ronda and hit her finisher on her and left her motionless in the ring and Liv capitalized on that. Or Liv hit Ronda in the back of the head with the briefcase and hit her finisher after that and won. Sure, Liv's victory wasn't the way Ronda thought she was going to lose the belt, but Ronda's character probably sees this as a "bump in the road" and maybe even "at least it's Liv instead of Becky again screwing me over." Plus, you know, they're BOTH faces. It's not like it was Rhea, or Becky, or Charlotte. It's not like they did the whole ceremonial "the whole locker room comes to the ring and celebrates the new champion" like they used to do in NXT with Ronda holding Liv on her shoulders. It was a quick, blink and you miss it hand raise and hug, given from one babyface to another. It's not uncommon for faces to congratulate each other. Don't matter how Liv won, Ronda knows it's her moment, and let her have her moment. Even if Ronda win's it back at Summer Slam, at least Liv got to have her moment. Wrestling IS NOT REAL, the emotions we may have are not what the characters on TV may have. You may think that Ronda should be pissed off, but Ronda as a babyface character is going to see this as "you got me Liv, you win this round, have this time to celebrate because you're not beating me again." Simple as that.
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asuka007
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Post by asuka007 on Jul 4, 2022 0:31:09 GMT -5
I don’t like to rewrite shows or pretend like I’m a professional writer.
But in this case, it takes like two minutes to write a follow up. Ronda comes out on SD and goes essentially “I have nothing against you. I know what that briefcase entails. You were smart, you took your shit, and I respect that, congratulations. But now, I want a proper rematch. So you think you can beat me straight up?”
And babyface Liv goes “ok, let’s do it.”
It’s not that hard.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 4, 2022 2:59:44 GMT -5
I feel like Ronda has entered the "as long as the cheque clears" portion of her career, but she's just another woman on the roster now. I imagine Ronda needs a big match at SummerSlam and Liv needs a big win, so they'll probably do it there.
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Post by thechase on Jul 4, 2022 3:17:45 GMT -5
I don’t like to rewrite shows or pretend like I’m a professional writer. But in this case, it takes like two minutes to write a follow up. Ronda comes out on SD and goes essentially “I have nothing against you. I know what that briefcase entails. You were smart, you took your shit, and I respect that, congratulations. But now, I want a proper rematch. So you think you can beat me straight up?” And babyface Liv goes “ok, let’s do it.” It’s not that hard. We may get that, F4W says the plan is to do Ronda vs Liv at Summerslam. She may even pull a more condensed Christian/Jungle Boy turn on Liv, drawing her in with the power of friendship before pummelling her.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 8:22:10 GMT -5
I like goofing on Ronda like everyone else, but she's still really over as a face. There's no reason to turn her heel yet IMO.
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