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Post by SirLucas on Jul 10, 2022 15:55:42 GMT -5
Honestly, Corey killed the Lacey segment Friday night. The first time Lacey came down the isle, she was all smiles and cheerful. Before she got all salty and walked to the back for a redo, Corey mentioned that her crowd reaction was mediocre. He mentioned this before her facial expression changed.
Thank you for given away the plot in order for this segment to now look completely contrived. It's little tidbits like this that take me away from my suspension of disbelief. Honestly, the announcers should have been completely stunned as to what was bothering Lacey the entire time before she got on the microphone and explained herself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 19:06:23 GMT -5
I've been trying to ease up on him, but he keeps giving me reasons to dislike him.
I'm really f***in' tired of him calling Otis a tree trunk.
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Post by Spiderf 4 on Jul 12, 2022 19:07:59 GMT -5
MANDY ROSE IS HERE!
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Post by Fade on Jul 12, 2022 19:09:49 GMT -5
I’ve mentioned it before, but I currently think he’s the worst commentator on either WWE or AEW. With the exception of JR I guess.
The shine came off of him a long time ago but Pat killing it really exposed him. He also kind of seems like a dweeb in real life so 🤷
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jul 12, 2022 19:11:37 GMT -5
I normally don’t mind him, but dude was turned up to 15 on RAW last night.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 19:59:24 GMT -5
I normally don’t mind him, but dude was turned up to 15 on RAW last night. Last week when he was handling lead PBP duties was really bad.
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Post by knightboat on Jul 12, 2022 20:04:22 GMT -5
Graves has always bugged me because he looks exactly like 100 different guys I met at punk shows who were all exactly the same, d bags.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 12, 2022 20:24:10 GMT -5
The first rule of punk rock is being f***ing insufferable.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jul 12, 2022 21:05:33 GMT -5
I grew tired of the dude a long time ago. He straight up bullies Byron in a way that's not funny, it's borderline uncomfortable sometimes. He ruins most matches that he calls, and is one of the reasons I had to stop watching (I even tried watching on mute or with alternate commentary).
Dude went from being to a successor to Bobby Heenan to a poor man's JBL.
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Post by XIII on Jul 12, 2022 21:16:42 GMT -5
Dude out there looking like Jeff Hardy cosplaying as CM Punk impersonating Vanilla Ice. No clue if he still does, I don’t watch this mess, but probably.
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Post by Rhody Codes on Jul 13, 2022 0:02:46 GMT -5
His pro-heel commentary reads like a local indie fed's announcer trying to be a Bobby Heenan, but ending up as a worse version of JBL.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 13, 2022 0:14:47 GMT -5
I hope he's actually cleared to wrestle again so I never have to hear him commentate another match tbh.
Idk what he got left in ring wise but the dude's so absolutely grating on the mic and doesn't seem like a much better human...
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 13, 2022 0:17:58 GMT -5
I try to cut commentators some slack because I understand they have a difficult task, and they can get overworked. That being said, Corey has a habit of just turning into a wall of goddamn noise, shouting and rambling to the point of being distracting. Pat occasionally is guilty of being too obnoxiously wired, but he's better at finding a balance.
WWE's really poor attempt at an adversarial relationship between Graves and Saxton doesn't help, either. Like, I cannot think of one, solitary time it's been funny or entertaining, not the least of which reason being there's not even really a joke there. Lawler would make jokes at JR's expense that tended to be him suggesting face bias. Heenan would intentionally annoy Monsoon while being mindful of the fact Gorilla could easily beat the shit out of him, and you didn't think that fact was lost on him. Ventura would, yes, advocate for heels, but he'd also actually be firm with Monsoon or McMahon if they were being hypocritical or out of line on something and actually act like a human character who has a point at times.
Corey is like two shows away from telling Saxton he hopes he gets a cancer so incurable that they'll name it after Byron. Who is this for, exactly?
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 13, 2022 1:55:08 GMT -5
I think it might be a great time to tell the company what we've been saying among ourselves for years - that Graves is a millstone around the neck of any WWE announce table and a better use needs to be found for him. Vince might be in charge of creative, but that doesn't mean he has the final say on who he can be creative with.
McAfee, at least, can hype up an audience with his shtick. Graves regularly flies into cringe territory to the point I'd be more comfortable in Jordan Peterson's psych 101 class. I'm willing to bet that, if they got enough written complaints about Graves, they'd have to bump him. If they don't, they'd at least have to make Vince rein in the instructions so we're not calling on that senile old fool to get ousted from creative as well.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 13, 2022 3:40:23 GMT -5
I try to cut commentators some slack because I understand they have a difficult task, and they can get overworked. That being said, Corey has a habit of just turning into a wall of goddamn noise, shouting and rambling to the point of being distracting. Pat occasionally is guilty of being too obnoxiously wired, but he's better at finding a balance. WWE's really poor attempt at an adversarial relationship between Graves and Saxton doesn't help, either. Like, I cannot think of one, solitary time it's been funny or entertaining, not the least of which reason being there's not even really a joke there. Lawler would make jokes at JR's expense that tended to be him suggesting face bias. Heenan would intentionally annoy Monsoon while being mindful of the fact Gorilla could easily beat the shit out of him, and you didn't think that fact was lost on him. Ventura would, yes, advocate for heels, but he'd also actually be firm with Monsoon or McMahon if they were being hypocritical or out of line on something and actually act like a human character who has a point at times. Corey is like two shows away from telling Saxton he hopes he gets a cancer so incurable that they'll name it after Byron. Who is this for, exactly? Yeah, I'm sure some of this is Vince pushing that he should be louder angrier and have access to a time machine... cause I don't remember him being this way on NXT even when he had the semi-adversarial relationship with one of the commentators there. And also yeah, Bobby and King for the most part didn't seem to personally f***ing hate their broadcast partners... and just more were needling assholes trying to get a rise out of the face aligned commentators. Corey is basically out there telling Byron that no one has ever loved him and that he hopes that Byron would just die already.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 13, 2022 4:13:06 GMT -5
I’ve mentioned it before, but I currently think he’s the worst commentator on either WWE or AEW. With the exception of JR I guess. The shine came off of him a long time ago but Pat killing it really exposed him. He also kind of seems like a dweeb in real life so 🤷 And his treatment of Byron is worse when you look at Vic and Wade in NXT. Wade's the heel commentator, but Vic will dunk on him and Wade plays on it. Byron doesn't get shit in response to Corey, it's just Corey constantly making fun of Byron. On commentary, if you've got a face and a heel commentators, the face has to get shots back at the heel, and the heel's gotta sell it.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jul 13, 2022 7:49:56 GMT -5
I’ve mentioned it before, but I currently think he’s the worst commentator on either WWE or AEW. With the exception of JR I guess. The shine came off of him a long time ago but Pat killing it really exposed him. He also kind of seems like a dweeb in real life so 🤷 And his treatment of Byron is worse when you look at Vic and Wade in NXT. Wade's the heel commentator, but Vic will dunk on him and Wade plays on it. Byron doesn't get shit in response to Corey, it's just Corey constantly making fun of Byron. On commentary, if you've got a face and a heel commentators, the face has to get shots back at the heel, and the heel's gotta sell it. Yup, at best Byron has a snappy comeback and shuts Graves bullying down, and in response Corey just doesn't say anything. So Byron doesn't even get anything in the way of a "win" for out-talking the bully. I mean yeah this is all Vince, but it makes the product unwatchable. Corey Graves with Tom Phillips was the holy grail of commentary that could have carried the next generation, they were an amazing pair, but Vince of course had to mess with and f*** it up royally (like he usually does).
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 13, 2022 8:16:03 GMT -5
I defy you to name a commentator who burned through his good will faster than Corey Graves in the entire history of the business
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Post by Rhody Codes on Jul 13, 2022 8:22:00 GMT -5
I try to cut commentators some slack because I understand they have a difficult task, and they can get overworked. That being said, Corey has a habit of just turning into a wall of goddamn noise, shouting and rambling to the point of being distracting. Pat occasionally is guilty of being too obnoxiously wired, but he's better at finding a balance. WWE's really poor attempt at an adversarial relationship between Graves and Saxton doesn't help, either. Like, I cannot think of one, solitary time it's been funny or entertaining, not the least of which reason being there's not even really a joke there. Lawler would make jokes at JR's expense that tended to be him suggesting face bias. Heenan would intentionally annoy Monsoon while being mindful of the fact Gorilla could easily beat the shit out of him, and you didn't think that fact was lost on him. Ventura would, yes, advocate for heels, but he'd also actually be firm with Monsoon or McMahon if they were being hypocritical or out of line on something and actually act like a human character who has a point at times. Corey is like two shows away from telling Saxton he hopes he gets a cancer so incurable that they'll name it after Byron. Who is this for, exactly? At the very least, McAfee isn’t a complete heel cheerleader and insufferable like Corey is. Plus, he and Michael Cole’s friendship is rather charming, reminds me quite a bit of Cole and Taz.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jul 13, 2022 9:41:27 GMT -5
I don't need to read the opening post, thread title sums it up already.
One day, Byron will snap, and leave the bloody corpse of Corey far, far behind. That will be a beautiful day.
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