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Post by CMWaters on Jul 19, 2022 21:34:05 GMT -5
Yup. It doesn't help when her tag partner was significantly more popular and well liked than her, and pretty much better in every aspect. This is like HBK going missing in WWE, and them deciding to push Marty Janetty to the world title scene instead. Zoey Stark couldn't lace Marty Jannetty's boots. It would be more like if Dan Spivey was pushed to the World Title when Sid was out playing softball with an injury. And yes I just compared Io Shirai to Sid. Sorry to go off on a side tangent but I always think using Jannetty as the inferior tag partner example is such hindsight bias as it really doesn't make sense in that when they were a tag team they were treated very much as equals. Neither was pushed as "The Star" over the other. Really the only difference between the two was one had blonde hair and one had brown. It's not like say Otis and Tucker or Montez Ford and Angelo Dawkins where one guys is clearly given more focus then the other. Like I doubt in 1990 that everyone was like "yeah that Shawn Michaels guy has potential to be a multiple time World Champion. It's too bad that bum Marty Jannetty is holding him back". In fact, and I may be mis-remembering reports I read from the past, there was talk that people thought Jannetty was gonna be the breakout star at first. The comparison just mostly comes from how much of a breakout Michaels became (mostly let's admit it down to Jannetty's personal demons) after the team was broken up. Would you think it a better comparison to use Hart Foundation, saying Io is the Bret to Zoey's Neidhart?
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jul 19, 2022 21:48:51 GMT -5
Zoey Stark couldn't lace Marty Jannetty's boots. It would be more like if Dan Spivey was pushed to the World Title when Sid was out playing softball with an injury. And yes I just compared Io Shirai to Sid. Sorry to go off on a side tangent but I always think using Jannetty as the inferior tag partner example is such hindsight bias as it really doesn't make sense in that when they were a tag team they were treated very much as equals. Neither was pushed as "The Star" over the other. Really the only difference between the two was one had blonde hair and one had brown. It's not like say Otis and Tucker or Montez Ford and Angelo Dawkins where one guys is clearly given more focus then the other. Like I doubt in 1990 that everyone was like "yeah that Shawn Michaels guy has potential to be a multiple time World Champion. It's too bad that bum Marty Jannetty is holding him back". In fact, and I may be mis-remembering reports I read from the past, there was talk that people thought Jannetty was gonna be the breakout star at first. The comparison just mostly comes from how much of a breakout Michaels became (mostly let's admit it down to Jannetty's personal demons) after the team was broken up. Would you think it a better comparison to use Hart Foundation, saying Io is the Bret to Zoey's Neidhart? I would say the Hart Foundation would be a better comparison as by 1988 I would say Bret was clearly "The Guy" in that team as he got the SNME singles match with Savage where he was presented pretty well and was given more singles feuds with guys like Perfect and Bad News Brown. With the Rockers it's clearly due to Michaels having the much better career and becoming a big star post breakup. I mean I guess Shawn did always seem to get the better Survivor Series and Battle Royal showings in that Marty would usually get taken out quick while Shawn would usually last longer and get more shine. So I guess that was maybe a hint that they saw more in Shawn. On the other hand though Shawn was usually the one who would be "the victim" where he would get beat up and injured by the heels (Rougeaus injuring his throat with the megaphone, Power and Glory injuring his knee at Summerslam 1990) with Marty being kind of like the tougher big brother who could go it alone if he had to. So it kind of evened out. Point is they were pretty even on the totem pole. Unlike Hitman and Anvil where Bret was clearly given more focus and also markted more as even as early as 1988 Bret was getting solo magazine covers.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jul 19, 2022 22:14:21 GMT -5
WHAT THEY DO TO MY DUDES?!
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 19, 2022 22:19:24 GMT -5
Good advertisement for some people never needing to shave. Fowler looks straight up like a neo-Nazi.
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 19, 2022 22:22:58 GMT -5
Rip kinda looks like he wants to imitate bald unmasked Kane.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Jul 19, 2022 22:23:50 GMT -5
WHAT THEY DO TO MY DUDES?! Like I said during the show, Jagger doesn't look that bad, Rip however, looks like he shouldn't be within 10 feet of a Pizza Hut.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 19, 2022 22:29:15 GMT -5
Jagger looks like he wants to talk to you about Jehovah and Fowler looks like he wants to talk to you about his penis.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 19, 2022 22:30:44 GMT -5
I think we as a fanbase need to have a conversation about why mainstream wrestling seems to attract so many people with messiah complexes and aspirations to lead cults, and how they prey on those who are downtrodden.
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Post by mistery on Jul 19, 2022 22:51:06 GMT -5
You still can't convince me that Rip Fowler isn't Agent 47 in disguise, sent to take out Joe Gacy for leading a cult.
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 19, 2022 22:53:08 GMT -5
I think we as a fanbase need to have a conversation about why mainstream wrestling seems to attract so many people with messiah complexes and aspirations to lead cults, and how they prey on those who are downtrodden. They're just taking after the company owners. Especially those in WWE.
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Post by Totorob101 on Jul 20, 2022 4:42:27 GMT -5
On the Zoey Stark thing,i can imagine its probably just a filler feud for Mandy,and i think Zoey is super talent but a heel turn might be the way to go for her.I also think Nikkita Lyons would be better as a heel too as she just has that natural look and size for it.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 20, 2022 11:13:00 GMT -5
The math superhero is here!
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Post by ANuclearError on Jul 20, 2022 14:29:53 GMT -5
I feel like a proper BritWres hipster for remembering Zack Gibson before he grew a beard. It's the eye contacts that make the new gimmick seem silly to me.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 20, 2022 14:31:08 GMT -5
WHAT THEY DO TO MY DUDES?! The Grizzled Young Veterans SOOOOOOON to be unrecognizable
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