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Post by Macho Pichu on Jul 20, 2022 21:09:30 GMT -5
I didn't hate the finish, but they did seem to rush to get there, which I'm not big on. They should really save these big gimmick matches for PPV to let them breathe and keep commercials out of the way.
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Post by DeeBee on Jul 20, 2022 21:09:32 GMT -5
We can have a middle ground between "This was a good decision" and "Hey let's listen to the racist windbag whose edgy material and willingness to court bigots from across the aisle is a net loss for our community" where neither of those things are said. I thought it was a term for generic "looks like some amateur hour bullshit". I heard it well before racket guy's podcast hustle to refer to some stupid shit TNA did (leaving a spray outline of someone on the mat all show making them look too cheap to have more than one canvas for the show) Yeah, I think 'outlaw mud show' is not exclusive to that person/didn't come from that person.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 20, 2022 21:09:43 GMT -5
He should, honestly. Overbooked the shit out of that. Khan is a great booker... most of the time. If anything, that means we should hold him MORE accountable for the shitty booking decisions. Honestly felt like the gimmick was a Discovery request. Whatever. Sometimes gotta do what ya gotta do for the people paying you. Match being sloppy and over booked? Whatever. Sucks but gonna happen. The issue will always be the feeling of a main event being rushed. When AEW main events end up being duds it's usually because there just isn't enough time with the main event.
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Post by r. on Jul 20, 2022 21:10:05 GMT -5
He should, honestly. Overbooked the shit out of that. Khan is a great booker... most of the time. If anything, that means we should hold him MORE accountable for the shitty booking decisions. What he's going for makes sense. Jericho and his cronies keep robbing Eddie of a 1 on 1 victory against Jericho. It's the order of matches that is problematic, As someone said, Too many feud-ender matches. Ideally, you do a series of matches starting with normal and adding increasing stipulations until you have something like a Steel cage or other stipulation to make it truly 1v1 which is where you give the babyface his win.
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Post by khali on Jul 20, 2022 21:11:46 GMT -5
If you don’t think the guy holding up the “outlaw mud show” sign is a fan of a certain guy with a tennis racket, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. It doesn’t show up at an AEW out of coincidence after he’s used it for years incessantly.
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Post by DeeBee on Jul 20, 2022 21:13:59 GMT -5
If you don’t think the guy holding up the “outlaw mud show” shine is a fan of a certain guy with a tennis racket, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. It doesn’t show up at an AEW out of coincidence after he’s used it for years incessantly. Yes, but the point I believe Smokin' Dove was trying to make is that it's a wrestling term that's not exclusive to him. Sure, the guy may have thought that, but when Dove said it, I don't think it was meant to be anything but it being a shitshow.
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Post by gentlemengreg1 on Jul 20, 2022 21:14:12 GMT -5
Jericho got his nose broken near end of match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2022 21:16:26 GMT -5
If you don’t think the guy holding up the “outlaw mud show” shine is a fan of a certain guy with a tennis racket, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. It doesn’t show up at an AEW out of coincidence after he’s used it for years incessantly. Yes, but the point I believe Smokin' Dove was trying to make is that it's a wrestling term that's not exclusive to him. Sure, the guy may have thought that, but when Dove said it, I don't think it was meant to be anything but it being a shitshow. Which is how I translated it and what I felt I was agreeing to as well...
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Post by john84 on Jul 20, 2022 21:18:42 GMT -5
Well a woman did turn heel but idk how good or worse this choice was. Wait and see I guess.
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Post by john84 on Jul 20, 2022 21:20:24 GMT -5
Go back in time and delete this episode. It's been really good outside of some of these shenanigans in the main event, IMO. Agreed. The main event is the only real negative I have about because of the shenanigans. Still give the show an 8 though overall.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 20, 2022 21:23:21 GMT -5
If you don’t think the guy holding up the “outlaw mud show” shine is a fan of a certain guy with a tennis racket, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. It doesn’t show up at an AEW out of coincidence after he’s used it for years incessantly. Yes, but the point I believe Smokin' Dove was trying to make is that it's a wrestling term that's not exclusive to him. Sure, the guy may have thought that, but when Dove said it, I don't think it was meant to be anything but it being a shitshow. Yeah I feel like it was a quick jump to assume I meant "agrees with podcast shock jock who whips up the kind of hate that could get me and my wife killed" and not "Dove frequently complains on here about shit booking decisions that make a company look bad, and this match was a fire in a sewage plant"
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 20, 2022 21:26:08 GMT -5
If you don’t think the guy holding up the “outlaw mud show” shine is a fan of a certain guy with a tennis racket, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. It doesn’t show up at an AEW out of coincidence after he’s used it for years incessantly. Yes, but the point I believe Smokin' Dove was trying to make is that it's a wrestling term that's not exclusive to him. Sure, the guy may have thought that, but when Dove said it, I don't think it was meant to be anything but it being a shitshow. But he INVENTED it, which is the issue. It pretty much is exclusive to him... I know Dove didn't mean it in that way though. Just... that term needs to die.
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Post by john84 on Jul 20, 2022 21:30:01 GMT -5
He should, honestly. Overbooked the shit out of that. Khan is a great booker... most of the time. If anything, that means we should hold him MORE accountable for the shitty booking decisions. Yeah I agree in that Khan gets more things right than wrong (at least IMO he does) but that main event was a complete flop IMO (and others' based on this thread)
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Jul 20, 2022 21:35:25 GMT -5
This feud does not need to stretch to All Out. We've had Anarchy in the Arena, Blood & Guts and a Barbed Wire match. What more is there to do?
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Post by y4j1981 on Jul 21, 2022 17:11:34 GMT -5
No literally how was he allowed to be in the arena and not the cage? I don't get what's not to understand. Hell they even said it when Sammy came out. "They" didn't know Sammy was gonna be there. He was still "out injured"
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