Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 10, 2023 22:57:55 GMT -5
There should be no "We won" anything, this is a shitty event and there's gonna be a lot of fallout from this as a whole... WWE succeeding with actual good people in charge was beneficial for all of wrestling... this? Who the f*** knows what the future is now Idk if "this is it for me" means you're done with wrestling entirely and or FAN but... I really hope for positive things anywhere we can find em I truly do appreciate the sentiments by moth, you, and others that I have squabbled with because obviously, we see at the end of the day none of it mattered. I am 38 years old and have spent the last 30 years of my life obsessed with the fantasy and violence of the WWF/WWE. I have a wwf logo tattoo that I got in the army while other people were getting band tattoos...i chose that symbol. I have 3 children who have rooms full of wwe memorabilia and never have all of this stuff I have loved and obsessed over felt so dirty. Hell my love of WWE is what furthered my IT career as I learned how to do 3D modeling and worked with Adam Ryland on the creation of TEW and Wrestling Spirit. It's dramatic but it's that same feeling you get when a loved one dies unexpectedly. It's going to make me bitter towards the product and the last thing I want to do is take it out on a community that has allowed me to drive them insane for 20 years now. Time to take a step back for a while and watch as the world burns Thank you all seriously for making this place the Haven it is Thank you too man, we butted heads a lot, but you've always seemed like an extremely fascinating dude with a loving family. Cool that you were in the Army, my dad was in the Navy I hope for good things, I hope that the step back is what you need and it ultimately helps. Here's to watching the world burn together, Rick.
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Post by XIII on Jan 10, 2023 22:58:03 GMT -5
It’s so disgusting how much Vince clearly hates his own family who has been by his side since forever. Vince's only family is money and power. Someone cue the Jake/DiBiase promo
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Post by canceled4truth on Jan 10, 2023 22:58:05 GMT -5
There should be no "We won" anything, this is a shitty event and there's gonna be a lot of fallout from this as a whole... WWE succeeding with actual good people in charge was beneficial for all of wrestling... this? Who the f*** knows what the future is now Idk if "this is it for me" means you're done with wrestling entirely and or FAN but... I really hope for positive things anywhere we can find em I truly do appreciate the sentiments by moth, you, and others that I have squabbled with because obviously, we see at the end of the day none of it mattered. I am 38 years old and have spent the last 30 years of my life obsessed with the fantasy and violence of the WWF/WWE. I have a wwf logo tattoo that I got in the army while other people were getting band tattoos...i chose that symbol. I have 3 children who have rooms full of wwe memorabilia and never have all of this stuff I have loved and obsessed over felt so dirty. Hell my love of WWE is what furthered my IT career as I learned how to do 3D modeling and worked with Adam Ryland on the creation of TEW and Wrestling Spirit. It's dramatic but it's that same feeling you get when a loved one dies unexpectedly. It's going to make me bitter towards the product and the last thing I want to do is take it out on a community that has allowed me to drive them insane for 20 years now. Time to take a step back for a while and watch as the world burns Thank you all seriously for making this place the Haven it is Holy f*** you helped create TEW? I gotta thank you and also curse you out then because I've sank god knows how many hours into that game. It's been a great ride.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jan 10, 2023 22:58:15 GMT -5
All this news makes me sad. I’ve been a fan basically all 28 years of my life. WWE has been practically my whole life.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2023 22:58:41 GMT -5
He killed it with a Bonesaw this time. Wait, is that NOT what the b in bWo stands for!? Don't tell me I have had it wrong this whole time...it always stood for BRAZZERS right? I can't be wrong about that because Brazzers is never wrong.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 10, 2023 22:58:57 GMT -5
We’ve definitely seen John Cena’s last match. There's a likely chance that Kevin Owens was in John Cena and Stone Cold Steve Austin's final match.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jan 10, 2023 22:59:22 GMT -5
SRS insisting nothing has been confirmed with WWE.
Yeah, you got locked out of the loop this time.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 10, 2023 22:59:33 GMT -5
at least we got to see a glimpse of what a HHH WWE would look like even if for only a brief moment. I suspect that's why there was so little announced for Raw last night and why it was so lackluster. I hope it was enough for someone with some money to go "Get yourself out of this, and I'll help bankroll a start-up fed for you and Stephanie to manage". Like, with all due respect to The Elite, if they could get Tony Khan on board with a proof of concept of like a handful of shows from scratch, Triple H and Stephanie should be able to get someone on board with them real quick with all their experience. For what it's worth Tony was already pitching making a wrestling fed to Turner. The Bucks confirmed it in their book and that Tony's selling point was that. SRS just went Fightful's post NXT show and said the entire locker room is pissed off right now.
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Post by S-Chrome on Jan 10, 2023 22:59:37 GMT -5
This is an overall terrible blow for the fans, but the industry in itself in North America.
Never mind the fact that our long national nightmare of Vince has returned, but the massive cuts in talent that are surely to follow, the heavy restrictions on what talent are showcased, and the talent that will leave in protest are just the tip of the spear here. Never mind the fact that some of the talent may not be able to land safely in another promotion and make the same amount of scratch they were making in WWE.
The other disheartening thing is that WWE was well on it's way to turning a corner under the stewardship of HHH (Who, FWIW, I'm still not a fan of), Stephanie (Same thing) and Khan, but still wasn't without its flaws. Now that Vince is back and he's selling his company to KSA is a double whammy of depression. And I'd venture to say because of Vince's out-of-this-world ego and the idea that if he sells to an entity that'll go private, he'll slip by the cases he's caught. Ultimately, he gets off scot-free with billions in his pocket and still running the day-to-day product into the ground knowing full well that many of the talent will be held captive there given the rough economic climate that the world is facing... and still might get cut anyway.
Once more, other than a few segments here and there, I'm not an AEW guy and it's not the time for the AEW faithful to do a victory lap. This little stunt that Vince is pulling might end up killing wrestling in the US as we know it.
But it wouldn't come as a surprise to someone who hates wrestling as much as Vince does. I mean, if this old f*** hates wrestling as much as he's demonstrated over the last few decades, why the hell would he be so eager to come back? Just count your millions and kick the bucket already.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2023 22:59:37 GMT -5
There should be no "We won" anything, this is a shitty event and there's gonna be a lot of fallout from this as a whole... WWE succeeding with actual good people in charge was beneficial for all of wrestling... this? Who the f*** knows what the future is now Idk if "this is it for me" means you're done with wrestling entirely and or FAN but... I really hope for positive things anywhere we can find em I truly do appreciate the sentiments by moth, you, and others that I have squabbled with because obviously, we see at the end of the day none of it mattered. I am 38 years old and have spent the last 30 years of my life obsessed with the fantasy and violence of the WWF/WWE. I have a wwf logo tattoo that I got in the army while other people were getting band tattoos...i chose that symbol. I have 3 children who have rooms full of wwe memorabilia and never have all of this stuff I have loved and obsessed over felt so dirty. Hell my love of WWE is what furthered my IT career as I learned how to do 3D modeling and worked with Adam Ryland on the creation of TEW and Wrestling Spirit. It's dramatic but it's that same feeling you get when a loved one dies unexpectedly. It's going to make me bitter towards the product and the last thing I want to do is take it out on a community that has allowed me to drive them insane for 20 years now. Time to take a step back for a while and watch as the world burns Thank you all seriously for making this place the Haven it is you're welcome back anytime and take it easy we need to just come together, find some more indies to watch and get as ripped as bigass forehead ricky starks
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 10, 2023 23:00:11 GMT -5
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Post by tekkenguy on Jan 10, 2023 23:00:28 GMT -5
Is this good or bad for AEW by the way?
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 10, 2023 23:00:37 GMT -5
So this is the nightmare scenario for anyone who likes WWE, and the potential fallout for the rest of the industry could be gigantic.
That said, I don't think you're going to see the women and LGBT+ wrestlers fired; the Saudis own other entities outside of their country that still have women in prominent positions and still have queer people. The whole point of what they're doing is "sportswashing", using vehicles like sports and entertainment to make themselves look better to the wider world, despite being a murderous, bigoted, tyrannical regime. Getting rid of all the women would be very counterproductive for them.
But yeah, there's no making any of this good. I'm not a long time WWE fan; I only watched for three years as a little kid, then for less than two years as a teen, then for literally one year of my adult life. But I'm a fan of the wider wrestling world, and again, there's no telling what this could end up meaning for that, good or ill, and it's scary to think about, let alone what this might mean for the wrestlers already in WWE.
But if you're a fan who's now afraid that you're "done with wrestling" if this happens, please, please, I implore you to take a look around the wider wrestling world, both here in the States and globally. We're in a golden age of accessibility for all kinds of wrestling; a seemingly endless array of in-ring styles, booking approaches, different venues of all shapes and sizes, there's basically something for everybody out there, and while it's not all free the vast majority of it is very, very affordable.
From New Japan, to AEW, to ROH, to Impact, to NOAH, to CMLL, to Stardom, to TJPW, to DDT, to NOAH, to GCW, to AJPW, to AAA, to tons and tons of indies available for very little over at independentwrestling.tv, there's so much out there that just giving up because WWE, which has had it's own very uneven history, becomes something you can't support is just cutting off your nose to spite your face. Don't be afraid to explore and experience something new; lots of us are already here to talk about it and share in the fun. Pro wrestling is so much more than one promotion, and it takes all of us to make sure it stays that way.
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Post by canceled4truth on Jan 10, 2023 23:00:41 GMT -5
SRS insisting nothing has been confirmed with WWE. Yeah, you got locked out of the loop this time. I don't even hate SRS but it's so f***ing funny this happened the same day Deadspin dropped an article called "How Sean Ross Sapp became the ultimate wrestling insider"
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Post by khali on Jan 10, 2023 23:00:45 GMT -5
Aside from deaths, this has to be the darkest day in wrestling history. Maybe the end of WCW was worse, but that’s it.
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Post by XIII on Jan 10, 2023 23:01:01 GMT -5
Poor Cole going to have to try to sell this shit on SmackDown. Hope he quits. Cole deserves better.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 10, 2023 23:01:14 GMT -5
Does this mean the WWE network dies too? Because it's currently on Peacock. Maybe the Saudi's want to stream on their platform?
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Post by Spider2024 on Jan 10, 2023 23:01:32 GMT -5
Also, if WWE gets sold to the Saudis, then EVERYONE should quit the company if they have any morals I think. Unless, they can’t do that for some reason. Unfortunately, a mass exodus is not possible. The vast majority of people working for WWE (mainly the office workers, the members of the technical crew/road crew, and yes even a percentage of the talent) depend on that steady income and couldn't afford to miss even a few of those paychecks without putting their own financial personal life in dire jeopardy.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jan 10, 2023 23:01:37 GMT -5
Is this good or bad for AEW by the way? Like a lot of things, it's up in the air at this point. It's really a case of just how potentially disastrous the ripples of this will be.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 10, 2023 23:01:39 GMT -5
Is this good or bad for AEW by the way? Depends how hardcore of a AEW fan you are, but I think we can all agree that this is bad for wrestling as a whole.
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