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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 11, 2023 0:42:30 GMT -5
Ok, so I'm going to be playing a bit of conspiracy theory here and I also don't know the legality of any of this but hear me out; So the Saudi deal has terms that are, to this day, locked away for nobody else except the people who made the deal or run the company can see despite the best efforts of fellow shareholders. What if one of those terms is that they're able to counter any offer that's proposed to the board (and Vince)? Because think about it, if shareholders and other companies were aware of it, they wouldn't bid because the Saudi government could easily match any bid and give WWE the terms they want i.e. Vince still runs creative. And Vince setting off this chain of events makes sense for him because, outside of the thing that lead to his roster being stranded, the relationship seems have worked well on both sides and they'll be able to give cash up front rather than shares or anything else other companies might not be able to do like Netflix or WBD. This is when people tell me that's actually illegal and I'm wrong but it was a thought that hit me so writing it down. I swear, I swear I didn’t expect this to potentially be true!
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 11, 2023 0:42:36 GMT -5
I still think WWE gets a good TV rights deal even with Saudi investors because of the fact that's a proven commodity.
This all happening and them NOT getting a TV deal because of public backlash is the only thing that would make this story even crazier.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 11, 2023 0:42:43 GMT -5
It’s very fishy how fast this has gone.
“I’m back to help sell the com- ITS SOLD”
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Post by jm on Jan 11, 2023 0:43:21 GMT -5
I wonder how loud the f*** you Vince chants will be tomorrow I'm gonna be shouting it loud and proudly that's for damn sure.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 11, 2023 0:43:28 GMT -5
It’s very fishy how fast this has gone. “I’m back to help sell the com- ITS SOLD” It actually feels more like "I want back in the company" "We don't want you back" "I'm back" "Wait what the fu-" "SOLD!"
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Post by Mike Strike on Jan 11, 2023 0:43:39 GMT -5
Well. I think we can safely say MJF’s whole gimmick of changing companies is probably done now, no? If anything, it'll get him more heel heat than ever.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 11, 2023 0:43:55 GMT -5
Maybe the deal was in the works after his retirement, with the Saudis being exactly the kind of people who would back Vince in a power struggle. Quite possibly, anything to ensure that the WWE continues, and ONLY continues under Vince's own vision of what wrestling is. Like dude's vision of wrestling before he retired was heels run everything and the future will be cheap as dirt barely trained guys like Shanky, it's gonna f***ing suck.
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Post by DichEvans on Jan 11, 2023 0:44:23 GMT -5
It’s very fishy how fast this has gone. “I’m back to help sell the com- ITS SOLD” i suspect Vince planned this for the last month. If he ends up in charge of create and President, I will guess that is true
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 11, 2023 0:44:32 GMT -5
Ok, so I'm going to be playing a bit of conspiracy theory here and I also don't know the legality of any of this but hear me out; So the Saudi deal has terms that are, to this day, locked away for nobody else except the people who made the deal or run the company can see despite the best efforts of fellow shareholders. What if one of those terms is that they're able to counter any offer that's proposed to the board (and Vince)? Because think about it, if shareholders and other companies were aware of it, they wouldn't bid because the Saudi government could easily match any bid and give WWE the terms they want i.e. Vince still runs creative. And Vince setting off this chain of events makes sense for him because, outside of the thing that lead to his roster being stranded, the relationship seems have worked well on both sides and they'll be able to give cash up front rather than shares or anything else other companies might not be able to do like Netflix or WBD. This is when people tell me that's actually illegal and I'm wrong but it was a thought that hit me so writing it down. I swear, I swear I didn’t expect this to potentially be true! Here we are everyone, we have finally arrived on the day we can say "EJM killed wrestling"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2023 0:44:52 GMT -5
I wonder how loud the f*** you Vince chants will be tomorrow I'm gonna be shouting it loud and proudly that's for damn sure. you and me both.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 11, 2023 0:45:53 GMT -5
I'd much rather see Trips & Steph kickstart their own promotion than go to AEW. Love AEW, but at the same time, I don't want a monopoly to happen in the event WWE collapses. The more promotions, the better. I've wondered before the last time they were fired/demoted how viable that is. Get the big pay day from the Saud's, sell their stocks for millions and millions, they could probably match AEW's initial $100 million upstart. But what would be their options for TV or online streaming? They've been in the business a long time and I've sure have made a lot of friends and contacts in the television industry. Plus I have to imagine some people currently doing business with the WWE would think twice before continuing doing it with a Saudi run company. If Trips and Steph can offer then a well-funded, quality alternative with a significantly less miserable work environment or risk of the person running the show having continuous sex scandals, then they'll definitely have opportunities to at least make their pitch.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 11, 2023 0:45:58 GMT -5
Would sponsors and broadcast partners be able to pull the plug? Absolutely they could And I imagine some of them would As has been mentioned, LIV Golf can't get a TV Deal and it's owned by the same company. WWE's TV Deals might take a major hit from this, but Vince just wants the money and the power, the final word. As has also been mentioned, LIV Golf can't get a TV deal because the PGA are pressuring the networks to not give them one, while one of the networks that currently airs WWE programming is in negotiations with LIV. I can definitely see some sponsors pulling the plug, however.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 11, 2023 0:47:03 GMT -5
Well. I think we can safely say MJF’s whole gimmick of changing companies is probably done now, no? If anything, it'll get him more heel heat than ever. That depends. The reason it initially got him heat is because it was very believable that he'd be going. If it becomes obvious that he and other free agents won't want anything to do with this thing, then him continuing the gimmick could lead to seriously diminishing returns.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 11, 2023 0:47:16 GMT -5
"Vince McMahon is back in Power" "The Wrestling Milk is getting Sour" "But to me it is not Scary" "Cause I stay away from Saudi Dairy"
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 11, 2023 0:47:42 GMT -5
So I guess we can kiss “Tribute to the Troops” goodbye then huh?
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 11, 2023 0:48:10 GMT -5
Quite possibly, anything to ensure that the WWE continues, and ONLY continues under Vince's own vision of what wrestling is. Like dude's vision of wrestling before he retired was heels run everything and the future will be cheap as dirt barely trained guys like Shanky, it's gonna f***ing suck.
And everyone having one name for some damn reason.
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Post by tekkenguy on Jan 11, 2023 0:48:12 GMT -5
Maybe the deal was in the works after his retirement, with the Saudis being exactly the kind of people who would back Vince in a power struggle. Quite possibly, anything to ensure that the WWE continues, and ONLY continues under Vince's own vision of what wrestling is. Unlike WWE’s other partners, the Saudis still worship Vince as a God. Also why can’t Stephanie, Hunter, and Nick just fight back against this?
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 11, 2023 0:49:03 GMT -5
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 11, 2023 0:49:23 GMT -5
Absolutely they could And I imagine some of them would As has been mentioned, LIV Golf can't get a TV Deal and it's owned by the same company. WWE's TV Deals might take a major hit from this, but Vince just wants the money and the power, the final word. As has also been mentioned, LIV Golf can't get a TV deal because the PGA are pressuring the networks to not give them one, while one of the networks that currently airs WWE programming is in negotiations with LIV. I can definitely see some sponsors pulling the plug, however. Theoretically, the deal would be so lucrative that it could weather the storm of any initial sponsor backlash that could come.
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Post by XIII on Jan 11, 2023 0:49:37 GMT -5
The wildest part is that Vince has always talked about his dad and grandad and how important it is that they started the WWE and made it viable for him to get it and make it bigger and more profitable than anything in wrestling history and now he has made it all but impossible for his grandkids to ever have that opportunity. He is quite literally going to tank his family name and legacy for a lot of money, power, and the ability to do shady shit with little resistance at 80 years old.
What a piece of shit.
He should probably read “Ozymandias” by Percy Bysshe Shelley
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