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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 11, 2023 8:10:08 GMT -5
The craziest shit happens when John Oliver is on break. Is there anything that could potentially sink the deal? Saudi Arabia being declared an enemy country and us going to war with them?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 11, 2023 8:12:44 GMT -5
Also to think Trips and Steph didn't know this was gonna happen 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Im pretty sure they knew If they knew why didn’t they stop him or just leak more things? Look I'm sure that family is a f***ing hell mess right now of sore feelings and shit, but at the end of the day Stephanie is still Vince's daughter. Look at how much came out and Vince still pulled this move, question first if there's any amount of dirt that's going to push him back, and second if you would be ready to publicly demolish your own parents for the sake of your business career no matter strained the relationship is and no matter how bad what they did is. Not on the stand, not to accomplish anything that matters, just to keep a company in your hands. That takes a special kind of person.
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 11, 2023 8:14:19 GMT -5
I haven’t looked on Twitter or Facebook and I know where this board stands. But is there anyone that is reacting positively to this? How are the due hard WWE fans treating this? The die-hard fans that were hero-worshipping and bowing to Vince when all of this started and he was appearing on TV every show will probably not care at all. When Saudi Arabia bought Newcastle United there was a lot of anger, a lot of grumbling, and a lot of tickets still being sold. I'd like to think that most of the people saying they're done with WWE if the Saudis take over genuinely would be, but I doubt it. For a lot of people, their moral outrage only lasts when it doesn't inconvenience them.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 11, 2023 8:19:19 GMT -5
20 years later and Vince wins another I quit battle against Steph. I still don't know the point of this whole angle, except for Vince's personal gratification. Mind you, that's clearly his only justification for this current mess.
It's an undercurrent in his booking. Though of course, even worse ideas were thrown about and never made it to air.
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Post by gentlemengreg1 on Jan 11, 2023 8:19:21 GMT -5
Meltzer stated early this morning Stephanie owns 5.2% of WWE voting shares. It’s difficult to ascertain how much money she would receive if WWE gets sold to Saudi Arabia for let’s say 8 billion….but she will be swimming in a pool of money.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 11, 2023 8:25:54 GMT -5
I haven’t looked on Twitter or Facebook and I know where this board stands. But is there anyone that is reacting positively to this? How are the due hard WWE fans treating this? The die-hard fans that were hero-worshipping and bowing to Vince when all of this started and he was appearing on TV every show will probably not care at all. When Saudi Arabia bought Newcastle United there was a lot of anger, a lot of grumbling, and a lot of tickets still being sold. I'd like to think that most of the people saying they're done with WWE if the Saudis take over genuinely would be, but I doubt it. For a lot of people, their moral outrage only lasts when it doesn't inconvenience them. A football club is different though, they're at the heart of communities and there's no real alternative (other than fans starting their own club from scratch). WWE is similarly a constant in many of our lives but the local connection isn't there and watching other companies is a viable alternative. That said I agree with you. I don't even blame the fans, sports washing is so insidious many won't even be aware of what the issue is. Not should anyone be expected to think about such things watching wrestling/sport.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 11, 2023 8:26:45 GMT -5
Money means almost nothing to the Saudi Groups that buy these thing; the contracts they will give to unhappy wrestlers will be staggering.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 11, 2023 8:28:36 GMT -5
The die-hard fans that were hero-worshipping and bowing to Vince when all of this started and he was appearing on TV every show will probably not care at all. When Saudi Arabia bought Newcastle United there was a lot of anger, a lot of grumbling, and a lot of tickets still being sold. I'd like to think that most of the people saying they're done with WWE if the Saudis take over genuinely would be, but I doubt it. For a lot of people, their moral outrage only lasts when it doesn't inconvenience them. A football club is different though, they're at the heart of communities and there's no real alternative (other than fans starting their own club from scratch). WWE is similarly a constant in many of our lives but the local connection isn't there and watching other companies is a viable alternative. That said I agree with you. I don't even blame the fans, sports washing is so insidious many won't even be aware of what the issue is. Not should anyone be expected to think about such things watching wrestling/sport. Look at the World Cup and the crazy numbers it did.
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Post by gentlemengreg1 on Jan 11, 2023 8:30:58 GMT -5
Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com @seanrosssapp There have been multiple wrestlers who have told me they'd leave WWE if the company ends up being Saudi Arabia-led. I'll have more on FightfulSelect.com today, as well as List & Ya Boy at 3 PM EST.
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Post by john84 on Jan 11, 2023 8:33:03 GMT -5
Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com @seanrosssapp There have been multiple wrestlers who have told me they'd leave WWE if the company ends up being Saudi Arabia-led. I'll have more on FightfulSelect.com today, as well as List & Ya Boy at 3 PM EST. Wait and see how many wrestlers actually do leave by their own choice if the Saudi thing is confirmed.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 11, 2023 8:33:41 GMT -5
Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com @seanrosssapp There have been multiple wrestlers who have told me they'd leave WWE if the company ends up being Saudi Arabia-led. I'll have more on FightfulSelect.com today, as well as List & Ya Boy at 3 PM EST. Sure the soccer players and the golfers said the same thing. Hey, I hope I'm wrong here, but this is going to be a lot of money.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 11, 2023 8:35:11 GMT -5
A football club is different though, they're at the heart of communities and there's no real alternative (other than fans starting their own club from scratch). WWE is similarly a constant in many of our lives but the local connection isn't there and watching other companies is a viable alternative. That said I agree with you. I don't even blame the fans, sports washing is so insidious many won't even be aware of what the issue is. Not should anyone be expected to think about such things watching wrestling/sport. Look at the World Cup and the crazy numbers it did. Exactly. We can expect the Saudi equivelent of Messi being put in that damn robe or Vince doing a press conference about how he feels gay today. Difference is there's no realistic prospects of escaping FIFA's grip on the game but alternatives to WWE already exist.
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Post by john84 on Jan 11, 2023 8:35:40 GMT -5
Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com @seanrosssapp There have been multiple wrestlers who have told me they'd leave WWE if the company ends up being Saudi Arabia-led. I'll have more on FightfulSelect.com today, as well as List & Ya Boy at 3 PM EST. Sure the soccer players and the golfers said the same thing. Hey, I hope I'm wrong here, but this is going to be a lot of money. I don't follow golf so I wouldn't know but I never heard anything about Newcastle players saying that? Could be mistaken as I'm not a Newcastle fan but I never heard anything about any players saying they'd leave (unless you're talking about a foreign club?)
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 11, 2023 8:38:08 GMT -5
Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com @seanrosssapp There have been multiple wrestlers who have told me they'd leave WWE if the company ends up being Saudi Arabia-led. I'll have more on FightfulSelect.com today, as well as List & Ya Boy at 3 PM EST. Sure the soccer players and the golfers said the same thing. Hey, I hope I'm wrong here, but this is going to be a lot of money. Pretty much my view — if anyone is holding up these people as paragons of virtue based on their stay/go on the KSA news then I imagine you're about to be really disappointed, really quickly.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 11, 2023 8:38:09 GMT -5
Sure the soccer players and the golfers said the same thing. Hey, I hope I'm wrong here, but this is going to be a lot of money. I don't follow golf so I wouldn't know but I never heard anything about Newcastle players saying that? Could be mistaken as I'm not a Newcastle fan but I never heard anything about any players saying they'd leave (unless you're talking about a foreign club?) I don't follow either, but I know the Saudis threw a ton of money at some pretty famous players to have an all star match there or something like that. I'm sure plenty of people here know more about that than I.
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Post by gentlemengreg1 on Jan 11, 2023 8:38:16 GMT -5
How does WWE get TV deals in the US with Saudi ownership?
LIV Golf hasn’t been able to crack into our markets with media deal…why would Saudi-WWE be able to get it done?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 11, 2023 8:38:34 GMT -5
Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com @seanrosssapp There have been multiple wrestlers who have told me they'd leave WWE if the company ends up being Saudi Arabia-led. I'll have more on FightfulSelect.com today, as well as List & Ya Boy at 3 PM EST. Wait and see how many wrestlers actually do leave by their own choice if the Saudi thing is confirmed. Sami and Ali for sure, but last night SRS most would leave or not have interest due to Vince. End if the day money talks and if a wrestler decides to take an insane deal I wouldn't blame them, but I also get the feeling that if Vince is in charge he's not going to be offering ridiculous contracts to wrestlers.
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Post by john84 on Jan 11, 2023 8:40:02 GMT -5
Wait and see how many wrestlers actually do leave by their own choice if the Saudi thing is confirmed. Sami and Ali for sure, but last night SRS most would leave or not have interest due to Vince. End if the day money talks and if a wrestler decides to take an insane deal I wouldn't blame them, but I also get the feeling that if Vince is in charge he's not going to be offering ridiculous contracts to wrestlers. Except for part-timers like Goldberg and Lesnar lol
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 11, 2023 8:42:21 GMT -5
How does WWE get TV deals in the US with Saudi ownership? LIV Golf hasn’t been able to crack into our markets with media deal…why would Saudi-WWE be able to get it done? As has been explained, most US broadcasters already have pre-existing deals with the PGA. That’s probably a more likely reason than any.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 11, 2023 8:42:36 GMT -5
How does WWE get TV deals in the US with Saudi ownership? LIV Golf hasn’t been able to crack into our markets with media deal…why would Saudi-WWE be able to get it done? That's more a golf politics issue than a moral stance, they don't want to alienate PGA. The same investment fund buying WWE owns a stake in Disney who in turn own many of the TV networks.
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