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Post by mistery on Jul 22, 2022 21:48:59 GMT -5
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see much changing with Steph in charge There have already been changes made behind the scenes, and there are some pretty big ones still coming. SRS mentioned on his livestream a bit earlier that Kevin Dunn is likely leaving before the year is up. Vince is completely out of creative right now, but WWE probably should tie up any storylines they have ongoing right now before starting a new direction for the company. Thankfully Summerslam is next weekend, so they can easily change course after that. Also Stephanie is in charge of the business side of things. Odds are pretty good Bruce is going to have to answer to Triple H now, and not Stephanie. Plus Stephanie has been pretty vocal about how much she liked NXT before the rebrand to 2.0 as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2022 21:50:25 GMT -5
"Pissing off the SEC, FTC, and every other federal 3 letter organization to work the marks" is certainly a take.
Not a good take, but a take.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Jul 22, 2022 21:51:43 GMT -5
I can't believe I have to say this again, but I will. You absolutely do not work mainstream media outlets or your own investors unless you want to get dunked on by the SEC. Especially since WWE found that out the hard way when it tried to pass off the “Trump buys Raw” storyline as a legitimate news event. With everything that’s gone on today, I’m sure updating the corporate site outside of the press release is pretty low on the priority list at Titan Tower. However, Vince is STILL listed as Chairman and CEO, just as he was when WWE initially announced that he would be stepping away during the investigation. corporate.wwe.com/investors/corporate-governance/board-committees-and-charterscorporate.wwe.com/who-we-are/leadership
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Post by chazraps on Jul 22, 2022 21:52:09 GMT -5
"Pissing off the SEC, FTC, and every other federal 3 letter organization to work the marks" is certainly a take. Not a good take, but a take. It's a "take my breath away."
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Post by schma on Jul 22, 2022 21:56:00 GMT -5
This is definitely not what I was expecting to wake up to. I was another who figured Vince would die as CEO. That said, until he's completely divested from the company, I feel like this doesn't count. Yeah he doesn't have the title but he has the vote and still much of the power (unless I missed some info, 33 pages is a lot to digest). That may change as we move forward. I'm not gonna lie, my initiation to wrestling was through my brother and dad in the late 80s and early 90s, particularly WWF. So thank you Vince for that, but kindly please f*** off now. He's a dirtbag and I have no problem showing him the door so to speak.
I imagine this is a weird situation for the wrestlers at the moment. The unthinkable just happened but it comes on the heels of some terrible allegations, oh and he may not actually be gone?
Either way na na na hey hey goodbye. I genuinely hope this can be the start of turning things around at the top and rooting out some of the pieces of crap that have flourished for years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2022 21:59:06 GMT -5
Nobody is going to work the Wall Street Journal for weeks. Come on now. Let's do some critical thinking about the situation. Jumping to this all being a work based on Brock leaving and then coming back is a massive, massive leap. There's so much more precedent for a talent leaving that day and then being sweettalked/bribed/coerced/persuaded back to the arena than there is for a "our biggest marque star has walked out of our live television episode after we'd promoted him being there a week before our second biggest show of the year a midst the most substantial scandal our worldwide company has ever faced." While I agree with you I am not sure that hidden NDAs are being treated as big as a scandal as everyone seems to feel it is though...As stated here the main media has taken him as a joke. I think Vince's age plays a part in it as well. If this happened even 10 years ago I do not think he leaves unless there is still more to drop.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 22, 2022 21:59:11 GMT -5
This is definitely not what I was expecting to wake up to. I was another who figured Vince would die as CEO. That said, until he's completely divested from the company, I feel like this doesn't count. Yeah he doesn't have the title but he has the vote and still much of the power (unless I missed some info, 33 pages is a lot to digest). That may change as we move forward. I'm not gonna lie, my initiation to wrestling was through my brother and dad in the late 80s and early 90s, particularly WWF. So thank you Vince for that, but kindly please f*** off now. He's a dirtbag and I have no problem showing him the door so to speak.
I imagine this is a weird situation for the wrestlers at the moment. The unthinkable just happened but it comes on the heels of some terrible allegations, oh and he may not actually be gone?
Either way na na na hey hey goodbye. I genuinely hope this can be the start of turning things around at the top and rooting out some of the pieces of crap that have flourished for years.
He definitely is keeping his majority voting shares. So while he isn't CEO or Chairman, it's still his company.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 22, 2022 22:12:13 GMT -5
The idea that T it would be a work is beyond silly. To what end would they be working toward? Makes no sense even beyond the obvious.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jul 22, 2022 22:12:27 GMT -5
I don’t care how many good memories anyone may have of Vince or Wwe as a whole.
F*** you Vince and good riddance.
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Post by attitudeeraguy22 on Jul 22, 2022 22:13:35 GMT -5
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see much changing with Steph in charge There have already been changes made behind the scenes, and there are some pretty big ones still coming. SRS mentioned on his livestream a bit earlier that Kevin Dunn is likely leaving before the year is up. Vince is completely out of creative right now, but WWE probably should tie up any storylines they have ongoing right now before starting a new direction for the company. Thankfully Summerslam is next weekend, so they can easily change course after that. Also Stephanie is in charge of the business side of things. Odds are pretty good Bruce is going to have to answer to Triple H now, and not Stephanie. Plus Stephanie has been pretty vocal about how much she liked NXT before the rebrand to 2.0 as well. Yeah, pessimists being pessimistic. There will be changes. Even when Heyman was running creative, we saw some changes. Now that Vince is fully out, there will definitely be new directions. Probably won’t be able to tell until a few months from now. Still gotta tie up current stories.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2022 22:14:31 GMT -5
The idea that T it would be a work is beyond silly. To what end would they be working toward? Makes no sense even beyond the obvious. Yeah this one being a work hurts WWE worse than the MJF stuff could (will?) ever have dented AEW during all of that craziness...
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jul 22, 2022 22:19:52 GMT -5
The line "As the majority shareholder, I will continue to support WWE in any way I can." made me cock my head like 1998 Kane. It could be a one-off, but it could also be (Vince gon' Vince) "I still have power bitches".
Do I think he's gone? Yeah.
But would it surprise me to learn later on that he's been in contact with Pritchard (one of the biggest Vince Marks and yes-men) the entire time calling the shots creatively in super cereal secret mode? Nope.
Not saying that's what's going on, but if it broke in a year or so that Vince was still "in charge" privately even though he wasn't "in charge" publicly I wouldn't be shocked.
To me it's not about working the marks, or fear of pissing off the SEC. This is Vince. The most control freakish person you could possibly know. The "it's my way or the highway" type of guy. The guy who thinks he's always right, and his way is the best way, and what he thinks everyone else thinks too. It's hard to believe he'd give up full control.
Plus you think Vince's ego wouldn't think he could pull of this ruse? The dude BRAGGED on international television for years about how he beat the US Government. He's all ego (Sorry Ethan...) He gives less than a shit about the SEC and consequences. You honestly think any group would have him quaking in his overpriced shoes? Dude actually came out on television weeks ago, cut a bullshit short promo then reportedly walked back and said "f*** 'em!" He gives no shits. No one is more powerful or greater than him...at least to him.
So to everyone being shitty to people that are being "ehhhhhh" about it. Remember it's Vince f***ing McMahon. The dude has zero ethics, or morals. Let's not pretend he wouldn't try it.
But that's all a giant "what if" rabbit hole that I wanted to think about out loud.
That being said, I hope this is legit both publicly and behind the scenes, and I hope that the WWE can actually progress forward to something watchable and entertaining.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 22, 2022 22:25:46 GMT -5
From everything he's done to helping cover up Snuka to turning a blind eye to substance abuse. Im glad he got his comeuppance due to people finding about how much of a sleeze he was with women. (Its not that much of a shocm)
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Post by Kyn on Jul 22, 2022 22:29:46 GMT -5
I'm stunned, and conflicted. I acknowledge I'm a wrestling fan because of Vince. But goddamn is he an reprehensible person.
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Post by Error on Jul 22, 2022 22:34:02 GMT -5
I wish I had footage of him trying to carry that t-rex head out in cardboard box someone got him from the mailroom
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 22, 2022 22:40:18 GMT -5
I hope his stuff gets mailed home to him in a garbage bag
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jul 22, 2022 22:53:04 GMT -5
I don’t care how many good memories anyone may have of Vince or Wwe as a whole. F*** you Vince and good riddance. That's about my take as well. To paraphrase Sean Ross Sapp about Vince's legacy, "A visionary who stayed around way too long." And this all before we get into what has and wll come out about Vince's dalliances with paralegals, female wrestlers, and message therapists.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 22, 2022 22:57:59 GMT -5
I hope his stuff gets mailed home to him in a garbage bag Do they make garbage bags big enough for t-rex skulls?
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Post by The Heenan Family on Jul 22, 2022 23:05:00 GMT -5
I hope his stuff gets mailed home to him in a garbage bag Do they make garbage bags big enough for t-rex skulls?
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Post by canceled4truth on Jul 22, 2022 23:33:09 GMT -5
Could've picked a better picture than that. Lol is that from like directly after Trump shaved him?
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