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Post by wildojinx on Jul 24, 2022 22:30:30 GMT -5
Jim was the Mozart of wrestling music, with Jimmy Hart not far behind, Heck, Jimmy was still being heard on WWF TV even after he left for WCW, via the Sexy Boy theme (the backup vocals on the chorus are him).
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Jul 25, 2022 3:43:12 GMT -5
Jim Johnston is still top of the pile for me but CFO did a good job in what was viewed as a very difficult position to fill. The produced some really memorable stuff.
On Roman Reigns old music, that was a re-working of The Shield theme which I believe was a re-working of Tazz' theme.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 25, 2022 5:06:31 GMT -5
A lot of the worst CFO$ stuff turned out to be because WWE was rushing them to crank out themes on too-short notice, so you'd get someone debuting with a half-finished track and then in a few weeks they'd add some more instruments or vocals to it and it would sound so much better. That wasn't really on them for being hacks, it was abrupt character changes and demands that they couldn't possibly meet the deadlines of, and yet WWE cared so little that they repeatedly put half-finished songs onto TV because it still fulfilled the deranged last-minute demand for something new.
It's why so many of the tracks they did for NXT stars came out sounding so good and complete, where main roster revamp themes were so frequently garbage.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 25, 2022 7:53:01 GMT -5
EDIT: For my cynicism about these changes being seen right away, this is a good start considering HHH's own history with running NXT (even if the foundations of doing that was to basically raid and smother the indies to an extent).
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 25, 2022 7:58:53 GMT -5
HHH isn't perfect and I probably won't love every creative choice he makes, but it's almost impossible for this NOT to be a good thing
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 25, 2022 8:14:05 GMT -5
Most new themes from like 2013-2020 are them. Really the only one that wasn't was Baron Corbin's which was Johnston's last... which... I always felt was a downgrade from CFO$ Superhuman. I miss CFO$. I know some won't, but I always liked their NXT themes.
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Post by A damn road sign on Jul 25, 2022 8:29:24 GMT -5
Really the only one that wasn't was Baron Corbin's which was Johnston's last... which... I always felt was a downgrade from CFO$ Superhuman. I miss CFO$. I know some won't, but I always liked their NXT themes. I’m still pissed they took Worlds Apart away from Sami Zayn, because that thing is a masterpiece.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 25, 2022 8:34:28 GMT -5
Really the only one that wasn't was Baron Corbin's which was Johnston's last... which... I always felt was a downgrade from CFO$ Superhuman. I miss CFO$. I know some won't, but I always liked their NXT themes. I feel like they had some misses but they objectively came up with some of the better themes in the last decade. I feel like their weakness was that their songs ended up looping after 90 seconds or so.
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Post by Topher is Human on Jul 25, 2022 8:35:14 GMT -5
I miss CFO$. I know some won't, but I always liked their NXT themes. I’m still pissed they took Worlds Apart away from Sami Zayn, because that thing is a masterpiece. Much like Nakamura, it’s so when they turn back face they’ll get a massive pop.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 25, 2022 8:36:43 GMT -5
HHH isn't perfect and I probably won't love every creative choice he makes, but it's almost impossible for this NOT to be a good thing Zod yes, this is a good thing.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 25, 2022 8:41:35 GMT -5
What I want: HHH NXT creative that told interesting stories and had rewarding finishes - see everything from like 2014 to 2019.
What I don't want: 2-hour NXT on USA creative.
I need to hear how the creative team is going to breakout before I get too excited. 3-hour RAW's are a lot of time to fill.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 25, 2022 8:46:43 GMT -5
What I want: HHH NXT creative that told interesting stories and had rewarding finishes - see everything from like 2014 to 2019. What I don't want: 2-hour NXT on USA creative. I need to hear how the creative team is going to breakout before I get too excited. 3-hour RAW's are a lot of time to fill. I want a combination of Black and Gold and 2.0. And with Shawn having a big hand in 2.0, I think he can convince Triple H to use more of that. With this news, I think Io re-signs, because Triple H will put her on the main roster. The possibility of both Garganos coming back increased. Maybe rehiring wrestlers like Dakota and Tegan. And the big thing, Sasha and Naomi are coming back.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 25, 2022 8:47:00 GMT -5
What I want: HHH NXT creative that told interesting stories and had rewarding finishes - see everything from like 2014 to 2019. What I don't want: 2-hour NXT on USA creative. I need to hear how the creative team is going to breakout before I get too excited. 3-hour RAW's are a lot of time to fill. They really do need to treat it like it was when Russo left for WCW. Get the Vince stuff over and done with for SummerSlam (possibly beyond depending on whether some longer term stuff was planned. Whose laughing back there?!) and then ease in your direction and your vision as slowly as possible so the audience, network and shareholders are used to it. As I’ve mentioned countless times, the issues with NXT on USA when it started was that the transition period was a joke and had ratings grabs up the wazoo that didn’t lead to the stuff that could have actually helped the brand (like Becky wanting revenge on Shayna after Survivor Series ‘19 etc). You need to blood it in.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 25, 2022 8:48:31 GMT -5
So this…puts some of it in a whole new context.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 25, 2022 8:49:35 GMT -5
I’ve been very critical of HHH’s creative in the past but, in no universe is him being in charge not a significant upgrade from Vince and Brother Love.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 25, 2022 8:50:53 GMT -5
So this…puts some of it in a whole new context. Resigned before this came out and the shareholders tossed him.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Jul 25, 2022 8:51:55 GMT -5
So this…puts some of it in a whole new context. So uh, holy shit this might actually be a bigger deal than we even thought
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 25, 2022 8:53:09 GMT -5
Resigned before this came out and the shareholders tossed him. In terms of power, they couldn't throw him out but, in one way, it would have absolutely overshadowed the next shareholders meeting with them trying to find out WTF was going on.
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Jul 25, 2022 8:53:43 GMT -5
What I want: HHH NXT creative that told interesting stories and had rewarding finishes - see everything from like 2014 to 2019. What I don't want: 2-hour NXT on USA creative. I need to hear how the creative team is going to breakout before I get too excited. 3-hour RAW's are a lot of time to fill. They really do need to treat it like it was when Russo left for WCW. Get the Vince stuff over and done with for SummerSlam (possibly beyond depending on whether some longer term stuff was planned. Whose laughing back there?!) and then ease in your direction and your vision as slowly as possible so the audience, network and shareholders are used to it. As I’ve mentioned countless times, the issues with NXT on USA when it started was that the transition period was a joke and had ratings grabs up the wazoo that didn’t lead to the stuff that could have actually helped the brand (like Becky wanting revenge on Shayna after Survivor Series ‘19 etc). You need to blood it in. Summerslam should be the "season finale" of sorts for WWE's current stories, with the post-PPV period leading up to Clash at the Castle being a bit of a reset, so to speak, on a majority of their storylines. Maybe even move up the draft if you need to refresh stories.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 25, 2022 8:55:56 GMT -5
So this…puts some of it in a whole new context. Yeah, so this is in some ways kind of a smokescreen to distract from potential wacky reporting that could be coming out.
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