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Post by nisidhe on Jul 26, 2022 7:24:53 GMT -5
Either that was pre-arranged (that there would be no questions about Vince) or they really like her, because in any other circumstance you'd surely have to mention it somehow. It's not so much an elephant in the room as the room being entirely engulfed by the elephant. NewsMax isn't exactly known for much beyond spouting rehashed Fox News talking points, so a) it wouldn't have occurred to them to ask her those kinds of questions and b) if it had, it wouldn't have fit the overall conservative narrative. They wouldn't have advertised that the rich are now on the menu.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 26, 2022 8:09:49 GMT -5
Either that was pre-arranged (that there would be no questions about Vince) or they really like her, because in any other circumstance you'd surely have to mention it somehow. It's not so much an elephant in the room as the room being entirely engulfed by the elephant. NewsMax isn't exactly known for much beyond spouting rehashed Fox News talking points, so a) it wouldn't have occurred to them to ask her those kinds of questions and b) if it had, it wouldn't have fit the overall conservative narrative. They wouldn't have advertised that the rich are now on the menu. Agreed. They are not news, they are propaganda. They would never embarrass one of their kind of people, rich and white.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 26, 2022 8:22:51 GMT -5
Either that was pre-arranged (that there would be no questions about Vince) or they really like her, because in any other circumstance you'd surely have to mention it somehow. It's not so much an elephant in the room as the room being entirely engulfed by the elephant. NewsMax isn't exactly known for much beyond spouting rehashed Fox News talking points, so a) it wouldn't have occurred to them to ask her those kinds of questions and b) if it had, it wouldn't have fit the overall conservative narrative. They wouldn't have advertised that the rich are now on the menu. Yeah, NewsMax thinks Fox News is too central in their reporting. A softball question would be too hard, it's more like teeball questions.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 26, 2022 9:29:25 GMT -5
Ixnay on the ewsmaxNay.
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Post by Legion on Jul 26, 2022 10:24:32 GMT -5
With all this new news. Does this increase the chance of Vince going to jail? It really depends what he ends up being accused of and actually charged with, if anything. It is entirely possible this all goes away, with the board taking no action and all the shareholders who raise a stink being quietly paid off - as has happened before with other things. It is also entirely possible he's been caught with his hand in the jar and, while the above may still happen, if the impact of what he may have done causes issues with tax returns, then he may get the government come sniffing. I would not be surprised if he and Linda suddenly and quietly divorce, in the hope her political enemies dont think to come after him to try and hurt her, given that they appear to have been living separate lives for a very long time and the relationship may not benefit them anymore if this becomes the case.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 26, 2022 10:41:04 GMT -5
On a less serious note, this all makes me realize something. Friday basically ended the longest storyline in company history, the Mr. McMahon angle which basically got a slow build from Montreal and really kickstarted before Austin won the title for the first time. It’s funny that after all the false endings the character had, the thing to do him in was, likely, embezzlement. It really is an "Al Capone busted for tax evasion" situation.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jul 26, 2022 10:57:21 GMT -5
Vince, you dumb TV announcer, your daddy brings ya in, puts you over and what you do? Ya dumb yourself outta position! “Ya used to be all up in the announcers headsets ’A yik yik yik, a yuk yuk yuk.’ But look at ya now, ya egg sucking’ dog!”
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 26, 2022 11:52:21 GMT -5
I’m amazed at the amount of folks who are trying to handwave the allegations that Vince used company money in these NDAs.
You can’t use company money for personal business. That’s been the case since forever. Mixed enforcement not withstanding. It’s pretty clear.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 26, 2022 12:04:47 GMT -5
I’m amazed at the amount of folks who are trying to handwave the allegations that Vince used company money in these NDAs. You can’t use company money for personal business. That’s been the case since forever. Mixed enforcement not withstanding. It’s pretty clear. I think it is certain at this point that he did use his personal money for the payoffs. But because it was to the benefit of the company they have to adjust the financials and the SEC is investigating.
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Post by Stu on Jul 26, 2022 12:18:43 GMT -5
So did last night's Raw have the slightest hint at change?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 26, 2022 12:24:52 GMT -5
So did last night's Raw have the slightest hint at change? Allegedly Vince wrote it so no. I think there were minor things but I’d be shocked if stuff wasn’t started on next week’s Raw since there’s likely a “plan” for SummerSlam.
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Post by chazraps on Jul 26, 2022 13:32:42 GMT -5
So did last night's Raw have the slightest hint at change? A reference from Heyman and a reference from Roman in the opening promo vs Austin Theory (which, tbh, is worth watching) but that's it. Vince's name seems not even allowed to be mentioned on WWE programming at this point.
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Post by Perd on Jul 26, 2022 13:49:15 GMT -5
Like others have said, I’d expect any major changes to be gradual. But there is one that they could do fairly quickly. Ease up on the obsession with nomenclature and terminology. Let the wrestlers and commentators sound like some semblance of themselves. It’s okay if someone says "title shot".
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 26, 2022 14:02:29 GMT -5
Just for those not 100% sure what the deal is.
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Post by Fade on Jul 26, 2022 14:18:15 GMT -5
So did last night's Raw have the slightest hint at change? Yep. The formatting, pacing, structure, announcers coming off normal, Rey delivering a long promo where he’s obviously unscripted and speaking Spanish in a prolonged way. Everyone from superstars to the ref seemed more relax. Good sign of things to come all things considered. Again: Vince was SO crazy that in his absence, naturally, change develops.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 26, 2022 14:19:45 GMT -5
Like others have said, I’d expect any major changes to be gradual. But there is one that they could do fairly quickly. Ease up on the obsession with nomenclature and terminology. Let the wrestlers and commentators sound like some semblance of themselves. It’s okay if someone says "title shot". or like TO THE SKULL! my issue has never been about the actual lexicon... it's that EVERYONE has to use them... ALL The time.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 26, 2022 14:20:27 GMT -5
The biggest concern is of course going to be power grabs, without Vince the cooks are gonna fight over who's in charge.
It's probably the most uncertain WWE time in my lifetime other than say the early 90s.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 26, 2022 15:06:45 GMT -5
Like others have said, I’d expect any major changes to be gradual. But there is one that they could do fairly quickly. Ease up on the obsession with nomenclature and terminology. Let the wrestlers and commentators sound like some semblance of themselves. It’s okay if someone says "title shot". or like TO THE SKULL! my issue has never been about the actual lexicon... it's that EVERYONE has to use them... ALL The time. If they ease back on just this alone I might be able to watch a whole show No more nonsense like New Vicious Viking Raiders every time they say the name
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 26, 2022 15:11:13 GMT -5
So did last night's Raw have the slightest hint at change? Yep. The formatting, pacing, structure, announcers coming off normal, Rey delivering a long promo where he’s obviously unscripted and speaking Spanish in a prolonged way. Everyone from superstars to the ref seemed more relax. Good sign of things to come all things considered. Again: Vince was SO crazy that in his absence, naturally, change develops. Yeah, there were definitely some noticeable differences but most of them were subtle things related to what you mentioned. And apparently the back stage mood was much more relaxed, which will also benefit the onscreen product.
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Post by mistery on Jul 26, 2022 15:16:20 GMT -5
The biggest concern is of course going to be power grabs, without Vince the cooks are gonna fight over who's in charge. It's probably the most uncertain WWE time in my lifetime other than say the early 90s. The power structure has already been pretty well established. Stephanie McMahon and Nick Khan at the top, followed by Triple H. Vince's toadies are either being demoted (Bruce Pritchard), gone (Johnny Ace), or will be gone before the end of the year apparently (Kevin Dunn). There's going to be some pretty big shakeups on the executive level there. I don't expect people like the CFO or anything to leave. And creative wise, it's pretty clear Bruce is now just a normal writer, and that the writing teams will probably be reshuffled or retooled for Triple H's guys to come in (I can see him bringing Ryan Ward back into the fold, and unfortunately probably Road Dogg as well). And Jeremy Borash is pretty much the favorite to replace Dunn when its time. The only way I don't see that happening is if he either turns down the promotion, or if Nick Khan has someone who is way better on hand.
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