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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Aug 10, 2022 6:39:32 GMT -5
Vince could have hired so many sex workers with that money. It just goes to show how much having that additional level of power over his sex partners was what gave him his jollies. Freaking disgusting. Me and my partner were discussing this as well about how he chose to go after people under his thumb, instead of anyone else he could have paid for the same services. The sex/sexual acts were just the cherry on top of the power trip sundae. Like just imagine being afraid to lose your job if you won't f*** your boss...
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Aug 10, 2022 6:46:14 GMT -5
Where can I buy some calls on Vince's Hush Money amount before the next run-up?
These payments is where the pyro budget went.
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Post by Sparvid on Aug 10, 2022 6:52:02 GMT -5
Something that just hit me the other day, but how does an investigation like this work in practice? Basically, Vince used his own money on things that affected the company but wasn't disclosed as business expenses, right? So the investigators can't just go through WWE's books since the whole issue is that the payments aren't there. So are they looking through Vince's personal expenses and going "Is this payment suspicious? No... What about this one? No, not that either..."?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 10, 2022 8:09:45 GMT -5
No wonder they had to mass release so much talent every year. This old f*** had women to harass and pay off
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 10, 2022 8:15:09 GMT -5
As far as I know, Vince McMahon still owns Majority stock in WWE. That's why I'm not 100% convinced that he has no power left. There would be severe legal ramifications if it were revealed he was still pulling the strings behind the scenes. And I doubt they would do anything that would result in legal action but I also think it would be naive to think that Vince will have no influence at all when his daughter and son in-law run the day to day operations of the company.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 9:17:47 GMT -5
No wonder they had to mass release so much talent every year. This old f*** had women to harass and pay off "Sorry Mr. Rotunda, but the boss just had to be a sexual predator again and we can no longer justify the amount on your contract. We wish you the best in your future endeavors. Also, if you'll go ahead and tell Adam Scherr to step on in on your way out."
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 10, 2022 9:23:00 GMT -5
There would be severe legal ramifications if it were revealed he was still pulling the strings behind the scenes. And I doubt they would do anything that would result in legal action but I also think it would be naive to think that Vince will have no influence at all when his daughter and son in-law run the day to day operations of the company. Yeah, he has a direct line to the co-CEO and head of creative. It could be just as simple as him calling up Triple H and saying "hey pal, you should put Karrion Kross back in that Zardoz outfit. It's money!" and Triple H humoring him before hanging up.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 10, 2022 9:40:16 GMT -5
And I doubt they would do anything that would result in legal action but I also think it would be naive to think that Vince will have no influence at all when his daughter and son in-law run the day to day operations of the company. Yeah, he has a direct line to the co-CEO and head of creative. It could be just as simple as him calling up Triple H and saying "hey pal, you should put Karrion Kross back in that Zardoz outfit. It's money!" and Triple H humoring him before hanging up. Yeah, they still might hear out his suggestions but, for the first time in 40 years, nobody’s obligated to do any of it.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 10, 2022 9:42:28 GMT -5
Honestly I'd imagine even just taking random spitball ideas from Vince is something they're going to want to avoid doing for awhile if only because if it were to come out that it would happening it would by its very nature lead people to believe he was significantly more involved past that and the last thing he really wants right now is people digging into him more.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Aug 10, 2022 10:05:26 GMT -5
Honestly I'd imagine even just taking random spitball ideas from Vince is something they're going to want to avoid doing for awhile if only because if it were to come out that it would happening it would by its very nature lead people to believe he was significantly more involved past that and the last thing he really wants right now is people digging into him more. Yeah, tossing out a couple ideas at Sunday supper is one thing but he can’t be calling up Hunter at the office and trying to give him advice or anything. Way too much heat would come from that.
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 10, 2022 10:23:36 GMT -5
There would be severe legal ramifications if it were revealed he was still pulling the strings behind the scenes. And I doubt they would do anything that would result in legal action but I also think it would be naive to think that Vince will have no influence at all when his daughter and son in-law run the day to day operations of the company. Creatively speaking at least, it doesn’t seem like much Vince influence going on.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 10, 2022 10:41:24 GMT -5
And I doubt they would do anything that would result in legal action but I also think it would be naive to think that Vince will have no influence at all when his daughter and son in-law run the day to day operations of the company. Creatively speaking at least, it doesn’t seem like much Vince influence going on. I mean I don't think he will have much influence either. But I also think we shouldn't presume Triple H and Stephanie will outright refuse to discuss anything WWE related with him moving forward.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 10, 2022 11:11:39 GMT -5
Triple H is barreling at light speed toward everything he's ever wanted and on "f*** Vince" hours like he's been cut out of the will. I don't think he'd want to roll with any Vince ideas even if it weren't a giant risk and problem.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 10, 2022 11:19:14 GMT -5
Triple H is barreling at light speed toward everything he's ever wanted and on "f*** Vince" hours like he's been cut out of the will. I don't think he'd want to roll with any Vince ideas even if it weren't a giant risk and problem. Vince cost him Adam Cole. I can't imagine he wants implement any of the ideas that caused that to happen. If anything, he'll want to spite Vince over it.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 10, 2022 11:22:55 GMT -5
So Steph and Khan will probably be running things to Vinces satisfaction. Khan was already his golden boy and I dont see Steph rocking the boat too much when things are running great money wise. H and creative will be what sticks Vinces craw. And Shane was already on Vinces bad side.
So would Vince go so far as to not will his stock to the kids? Would he sell it all off and what would he do with the cash? If someone could afford most of it would they have control or does it all convert to non voting stock? And if it did convert then Steph and Shane would have the majority of voting shares right?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 11:37:22 GMT -5
Triple H is barreling at light speed toward everything he's ever wanted and on "f*** Vince" hours like he's been cut out of the will. I don't think he'd want to roll with any Vince ideas even if it weren't a giant risk and problem. Vince cost him Adam Cole. I can't imagine he wants implement any of the ideas that caused that to happen. If anything, he'll want to spite Vince over it. To put it bluntly, Vince cost him a hell of a lot more than Adam Cole, although Cole is a big one. Joe? Gone. Keith Lee? Gone. KoR and Fish? Gone. Moxley/Ambrose? Gone. Bray Wyatt? You get the idea. I don't know if it was done out of spite on Vince's part or if he and Hunter just have that different of booking philosophies, but Vince did his level best to snuff out Hunter's chosen ones.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 10, 2022 11:45:44 GMT -5
Something that just hit me the other day, but how does an investigation like this work in practice? Basically, Vince used his own money on things that affected the company but wasn't disclosed as business expenses, right? So the investigators can't just go through WWE's books since the whole issue is that the payments aren't there. So are they looking through Vince's personal expenses and going "Is this payment suspicious? No... What about this one? No, not that either..."? I'm not sure, though I'd imagine this is the sort of thing they'd bring in forensic accountants for, so yeah, kinda.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 10, 2022 12:40:53 GMT -5
Vince cost him Adam Cole. I can't imagine he wants implement any of the ideas that caused that to happen. If anything, he'll want to spite Vince over it. To put it bluntly, Vince cost him a hell of a lot more than Adam Cole, although Cole is a big one. Joe? Gone. Keith Lee? Gone. KoR and Fish? Gone. Moxley/Ambrose? Gone. Bray Wyatt? You get the idea. I don't know if it was done out of spite on Vince's part or if he and Hunter just have that different of booking philosophies, but Vince did his level best to snuff out Hunter's chosen ones. And out of those, only Bray has a chance of coming back in the near future. Everyone else is already under contract in AEW. Though Vince being gone definitely increases the chance they return at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 12:58:35 GMT -5
To put it bluntly, Vince cost him a hell of a lot more than Adam Cole, although Cole is a big one. Joe? Gone. Keith Lee? Gone. KoR and Fish? Gone. Moxley/Ambrose? Gone. Bray Wyatt? You get the idea. I don't know if it was done out of spite on Vince's part or if he and Hunter just have that different of booking philosophies, but Vince did his level best to snuff out Hunter's chosen ones. And out of those, only Bray has a chance of coming back in the near future. Everyone else is already under contract in AEW. Though Vince being gone definitely increases the chance they return at all. I don't mean to be THAT guy about it, but Tony Khan got to gleefully adopt Hunter's wayward children after Vince kicked them out, so to speak. Add to that, they're all mostly guys that are in their prime right now. Keith Lee is 37, Mox is 36, Kyle O'Reilly is 35, Bobby Fish is 45 and Samoa Joe is 43. The only one under 35 is Cole, who's 33, and it was plain as day that Hunter had plans for him to be the Ace of the WWE. Cole is wrapped for 5 or 7 years, I don't remember which, so even he'll be closer to 40 than not by the time he becomes available. I'm genuinely glad for the wrestling world at large that Vince is gone and Hunter's running the ship, but he's going to have to damn near start from scratch in rebuilding his vision.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 10, 2022 15:10:03 GMT -5
63 pages so I haven't looked to see if anyone has pointed this out, but Vince has paid almost 5 times more in sexual hush money than he did for WCW
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