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Post by xCompackx on Dec 13, 2022 17:47:32 GMT -5
Vince isn't coming back. Nobody in WWE is going to risk upsetting a sponsor or TV exec by bringing in a toxic old man who was a detriment to the product anyway.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Dec 13, 2022 17:48:03 GMT -5
An old, rich white man escapes consequences for his actions? I am shocked, I tell you!
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Post by mistery on Dec 13, 2022 17:51:07 GMT -5
Vince isn't coming back. Nobody in WWE is going to risk upsetting a sponsor or TV exec by bringing in a toxic old man who was a detriment to the product anyway. Oh Vince could force himself back in, but it would likely trigger an SEC investigation (so he would be looking at jail time), and like you said, would piss off the networks (both FOX and NBCU have fully backed the new regime), and advertisers. So unless Vince is so desperate for power that he's willing to potentially spend time in prison and wipe out pretty much his entire net worth, he shouldn't even try to come back.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 13, 2022 17:53:26 GMT -5
Doesn’t seem like there’s any slam dunk penalty for any violations though, which is typical of personnel manuals. It’s still very much discretionary.
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Post by mistery on Dec 13, 2022 17:59:42 GMT -5
Doesn’t seem like there’s any slam dunk penalty for any violations though, which is typical of personnel manuals. It’s still very much discretionary. Well yeah. Worth noting though that when he stepped down in July, he was forced to sell roughly 38,000 stocks (at $0 per share) as just that penalty alone. He could easily be forced to sell off even more if he tries to come back into power.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 13, 2022 18:03:53 GMT -5
Seriously though, there's no recourse for Vince at this point. The company will do everything to keep him coming back, he's at huge financial risk if he tries too much, and even he tried to do his own company no investor will get within 10 feet of him given his reputation.
In the most practical terms, the man's best course of action would be to just lay low for the rest of his life and settle his lawsuits but McMahon's weird mania is such that he doesn't know how to not work.
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Post by fg on Dec 13, 2022 18:04:11 GMT -5
Vince isn't coming back. Nobody in WWE is going to risk upsetting a sponsor or TV exec by bringing in a toxic old man who was a detriment to the product anyway. Vince coming back would be a classic example of ruining or messing something that works for no GOOD reason. Which, you know is something you know VInce would do.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 13, 2022 18:14:42 GMT -5
Doesn’t seem like there’s any slam dunk penalty for any violations though, which is typical of personnel manuals. It’s still very much discretionary. Well yeah. Worth noting though that when he stepped down in July, he was forced to sell roughly 38,000 stocks (at $0 per share) as just that penalty alone. He could easily be forced to sell off even more if he tries to come back into power. Those were unvested stock units, meaning he didn’t yet earn them which is why he had to give them up. He has like 28 million shares.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 13, 2022 18:17:19 GMT -5
Vince should be smart enough just to take the ego trip that will be his eventual Hall of Fame induction and ride off into the sunset, free of any actual consequences to his actions and allegations.
Whether he is smart enough to do that, or becomes the lethal dose of poison to either his own fortune and/or WWE's empire, is really hard to say. But it really does sound like he can't just waltz back in and have absolutely nothing happen, which is about as good as I can hope for when it comes to consequences for rich people.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 13, 2022 18:19:51 GMT -5
Vince should buy Twitter.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 13, 2022 18:23:55 GMT -5
Vince making a comeback is a terrible idea and it absolutely will happen. It would have been much better for everyone if he had retired on his own terms - as soon as he was pushed out it was just going to eat away at him till he felt the storm had died down enough that he could force his way back in… Frankly, good, I'm glad he has something eating away at him even if it's not guilt over the things that actually hurt people. I hope he never gets that closure. I hope he gets stonewalled by his own family in the family business, and I hope he never sees a chance to find power again. What he's done has made him unbelievably toxic as a prospect, and that's the convenient excuse that everyone other cutthroat person in WWE needs to say he shouldn't be back. Questionable, but I'll take it. Honestly, even if all that ever happens to Vince is that he gets the "irony" of being the cut-throat bastard who got his own throat cut by the daughter he pushed out, at least that's something. The best thing that can happen with the company is showing that it can grow and thrive without his insane "Step on everybody else to become the King or Queen of Shit Mountain" locker room (and office, too) toxicity.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 13, 2022 18:25:29 GMT -5
Vince isn't coming back. Nobody in WWE is going to risk upsetting a sponsor or TV exec by bringing in a toxic old man who was a detriment to the product anyway. Oh Vince could force himself back in, but it would likely trigger an SEC investigation (so he would be looking at jail time), and like you said, would piss off the networks (both FOX and NBCU have fully backed the new regime), and advertisers. So unless Vince is so desperate for power that he's willing to potentially spend time in prison and wipe out pretty much his entire net worth, he shouldn't even try to come back. I don't think there's a person out there that doesn't believe Vince could eventually go full "IF I CAN'T HAVE IT, NOBODY CAN!".
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Dec 13, 2022 18:28:24 GMT -5
Just turn off the lights and lock the doors to Titan Towers. He’ll go away eventually.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 13, 2022 18:38:04 GMT -5
If Vince really wants to waste time and money on an obnoxious act of spite just to effectively gloss over his own toxic behavior and angrily shout at world that doesn't want to listen to him...
...then the rights to Control Your Narrative are right there for the taking.
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Post by mistery on Dec 13, 2022 18:43:08 GMT -5
If Vince really wants to waste time and money on an obnoxious act of spite just to effectively gloss over his own toxic behavior and angrily shout at world that doesn't want to listen to him... ...then the rights to Control Your Narrative are right there for the taking. Yeah I mean...The Rant Room is still a thing, right? On a serious note, unless Vince is willing to wipe out what would essentially be his entire net worth, I can't see him going back. Or being let back in. Pretty much all of his money is tied up in WWE stock right now. If he comes back, it'll all be wiped out when stocks inevitably crater.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 13, 2022 18:50:44 GMT -5
Bringing Vince back has not benefit to WWE at this point.
It can ONLY cause issues.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Dec 13, 2022 19:04:23 GMT -5
I hope he isn't back. I was worried he was shadow booking raw last night when I saw the return of Adam Pearce the authority figure on TV again He’s not back yet, don’t worry if he somehow comes back he’ll be all over tv letting us know. I doubt he comes back though, this seems more like a stages of grief thing to me he’s in the bargaining stage. All that’s left is depression and acceptance now. I don't watch WWE but I do have some reservations in believing that he is like, 100% totally separated from WWE. I feel like there's no way he isn't advising/consulting in some form or fashion. Also, I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Clutchhausen on Dec 13, 2022 19:25:25 GMT -5
Kick rocks, old man.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 13, 2022 20:14:12 GMT -5
I feel like anyone could have told you that this would be attempted or at least talked about. Vince is way too much of a sociopath to accept that THIS is how his life story and life's work ends. Not with him as the conquering hero, but neck deep in his own shit And it's what he deserves, but he'll refuse to accept it until someone either puts him in jail or he dies... and even then who knows, he might come back as a angry ghost
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Dec 13, 2022 20:17:38 GMT -5
So he's gonna force his way back in and ruin everything that Trips and Steph and so many others have done to fix the mess he left.
f***ing great....
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