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Post by Savage Gambino on Jul 24, 2022 12:07:32 GMT -5
Let's not forget, Triple H isn't running the show, Stephanie and Nick are, and Nick was the acting budget cutter for the last couple of years. Vince McMahon hasn't been gone a week, we have no idea what the show is going to look like under the new regime. Now, if the change is real, I can see some folks giving WWE a second chance maybe 2-3 years down the line, when their contracts expire. In the meantime, the only released talent I would wager on coming back is anyone who hasn't already been snatched up yet, and again, whether or not they actually come back is probably up to Nick Khan.
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Post by mistery on Jul 24, 2022 12:44:18 GMT -5
Let's not forget, Triple H isn't running the show, Stephanie and Nick are, and Nick was the acting budget cutter for the last couple of years. Vince McMahon hasn't been gone a week, we have no idea what the show is going to look like under the new regime. Now, if the change is real, I can see some folks giving WWE a second chance maybe 2-3 years down the line, when their contracts expire. In the meantime, the only released talent I would wager on coming back is anyone who hasn't already been snatched up yet, and again, whether or not they actually come back is probably up to Nick Khan. Well yeah, but from what I understand, and reports have indicated, is that Nick requested some budget cuts be made, but didn't specify who. He left that up to Vince, Johnny Ace, and Kevin Dunn basically. Who as we all know, are all terrible people.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 24, 2022 14:21:38 GMT -5
I think we need to not put the horse before the cart with this stuff. The talent who were burned by WWE and tossed aside likely need to be shown that things have changed without Vince and that Steph and Khan aren’t just the same horse but a different colour. And that might now be right away because they still need to prove themselves to shareholders that they can keep stability after basically losing the one guy who made them bucketloads consistently. Yeah, we’re playing the long game here. The changes are going to be incredibly gradual over the course of the next couple years. They aren’t gonna want to rock the boat too badly. And for all we know they’re gearing up for a sale (which I think is a very high probability and that’s why Vince stepped away) and the new owners wanna stay the course of current WWE style
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Post by avenger on Jul 24, 2022 14:53:31 GMT -5
Andrade and Black seem like the two most obvious candidates to complete the Cody Rhodes Challenge: both thrived in HHH's NXT but got lost in the shuffle in the main roster, and now, AEW, and both of their wives still work there. Johnny and Candice are way more likely to be back now, as others mentioned. Speaking of Candice, I wonder if we could also see Tegan or Dakota back too, they haven't done anything since leaving as far as I know. Io has a lot better of a chance of going to the main roster but she never "left" either. Cole I don't think would come back until way down the road. Maybe this changes Roddy's position in the company, though. Backstage, yeah, Road Dogg probably already got the call to come back to Stamford, lol. I think Candice is still under contract. Her contract was signed a couple of years after Johnny's and she's obviously out for at least a year for maternity leave.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jul 24, 2022 15:18:29 GMT -5
Andrade and Black seem like the two most obvious candidates to complete the Cody Rhodes Challenge: both thrived in HHH's NXT but got lost in the shuffle in the main roster, and now, AEW, and both of their wives still work there. Johnny and Candice are way more likely to be back now, as others mentioned. Speaking of Candice, I wonder if we could also see Tegan or Dakota back too, they haven't done anything since leaving as far as I know. Io has a lot better of a chance of going to the main roster but she never "left" either. Cole I don't think would come back until way down the road. Maybe this changes Roddy's position in the company, though. Backstage, yeah, Road Dogg probably already got the call to come back to Stamford, lol. I think Candice is still under contract. Her contract was signed a couple of years after Johnny's and she's obviously out for at least a year for maternity leave. Her contract expired in May.
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 24, 2022 16:22:34 GMT -5
They're not going to be able to bring everyone back who's been released; while the company has reported record profits, there will always be pressure to get more out of the company. There's also the perception that, after the news about the NDAs, rehiring so quickly would be seen as throwing good money after bad.
But there's definitely a case for bringing back a good chunk of the better workers, especially those who can bolster the undercard and bring back some fun to WWE. The challenge now is to get many of these people to _want_ to come back and to provide a good chunk of non-financial incentives to do so. I mean, compete with the other promotions on pay, of course (if possible, offer similar pay to what they were getting before they were released, adjusted for inflation); but also on some "creative" stuff outside the ring, like Southpaw and the E&C show or YT content.
Morale among the talent reportedly took a _huge_ hit since Vince took full control over creative. It may not take a whole lot of money to regain trust among the wrestlers from creative, but any efforts to do so should make WWE attractive again for those who left; and bringing back some of those released might go a _very_ long way towards rebuilding morale enough for others to give WWE another shot.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jul 24, 2022 18:37:42 GMT -5
Being that they actually care about women's wrestling, some of the good talents that got released and aren't under contract elsewhere, like Dakota Kai and Tegan Nox, should hopefully get another chance. Unfortunately for them, a lot of the ones they've lost are under contact to AEW or Impact, or just don't seem very interested in returning (Kairi, Peyton and Billie).
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Post by edgestar on Jul 24, 2022 18:39:38 GMT -5
I thought this said "Tatanka returning soon".
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 25, 2022 0:13:40 GMT -5
Time to bring back Raven!
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Post by Dub H on Jul 25, 2022 0:30:35 GMT -5
Let's not forget, Triple H isn't running the show, Stephanie and Nick are, and Nick was the acting budget cutter for the last couple of years. Vince McMahon hasn't been gone a week, we have no idea what the show is going to look like under the new regime. Now, if the change is real, I can see some folks giving WWE a second chance maybe 2-3 years down the line, when their contracts expire. In the meantime, the only released talent I would wager on coming back is anyone who hasn't already been snatched up yet, and again, whether or not they actually come back is probably up to Nick Khan. while I think storyline wise nick Khan and Steph will just follow Vince's playbook without much of Trips influence. I don't think Nick Khan will give a call on which talent gets hired unless it's a big crossover star or in the other hand a troublesome wrestler he doesn't think is worthy the business.
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Post by mistery on Jul 25, 2022 5:46:40 GMT -5
Let's not forget, Triple H isn't running the show, Stephanie and Nick are, and Nick was the acting budget cutter for the last couple of years. Vince McMahon hasn't been gone a week, we have no idea what the show is going to look like under the new regime. Now, if the change is real, I can see some folks giving WWE a second chance maybe 2-3 years down the line, when their contracts expire. In the meantime, the only released talent I would wager on coming back is anyone who hasn't already been snatched up yet, and again, whether or not they actually come back is probably up to Nick Khan. while I think storyline wise nick Khan and Steph will just follow Vince's playbook without much of Trips influence. I don't think Nick Khan will give a call on which talent gets hired unless it's a big crossover star or in the other hand a troublesome wrestler he doesn't think is worthy the business. Pretty much everyone from SRS to Meltzer has said that while not much will change right away, they do expect storylines to be changed up soon. Especially since Triple H is supposed to be getting involved in the creative side of things.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jul 25, 2022 6:11:24 GMT -5
HHH new father figure for theory with vince gone- Gargano comes back to fight for the custody of his child with Dominck mysterio as the special guest ref.
HHH: Theory, you're the son i've never had.
Seth freakin rollins: HEY! <wanders off cackling insanely>
Gargano: HIS NAME IS AUSTIN!
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jul 25, 2022 9:41:26 GMT -5
With todays news I can see a lot of the black and gold crew who very rightfully bailed on the former regime eyeing their contract expiration dates.
What an interesting time to be a wrestling fan.
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Post by XIII on Jul 25, 2022 9:46:32 GMT -5
Finalmente el OG Sin Cara ha vuelto a la WWE!
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jul 25, 2022 11:47:44 GMT -5
How do you all think Johnny and Candice are feeling now they took an actual break to be parents and didn’t dive headlong into another contract elsewhere?
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Post by mistery on Jul 25, 2022 11:53:22 GMT -5
How do you all think Johnny and Candice are feeling now they took an actual break to be parents and didn’t dive headlong into another contract elsewhere? No idea on Johnny, but Candice had mentioned previously (and took shots at NXT 2.0 in the process) that she felt WWE wasn't going to hire her back on because she was "too old" (37), and they want young women now, even if they have little actual passion for the business. I can imagine she'll probably be back because of this, no idea of her role. I think if she does come back, I would put her over Mandy.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 25, 2022 12:51:30 GMT -5
With todays news I can see a lot of the black and gold crew who very rightfully bailed on the former regime eyeing their contract expiration dates. What an interesting time to be a wrestling fan. I think it depends on who honestly. Like looking at a guy like Swerve, having listened to his podcast, while he doesn't bury Triple H he's made it clear he wasn't overly happy in the WWE bubble. Keith Lee pretty much said the same thing in interviews and was also less than impressed with how his wife was treated. I'm sure there will be talent to return, but I think a lot will have a wait and see approach... cause even people who are highly complimentary of Triple H have said they just weren't fans of the system.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 25, 2022 12:56:00 GMT -5
I'm sure there will be talent to return, but I think a lot will have a wait and see approach... cause even people who are highly complimentary of Triple H have said they just weren't fans of the system. This is a big thing I feel people are ignoring. Even now, NXT 2.0 has the same problems as NXT Yellow and Gold did. Talent are still only shown how to do matches with a week of rehearsal and not prepared for life on the road where you need to plan your match day of and it could go from 10 minutes to 2 because of a rapidly changing script for whatever reason. Developmental is still failing those people who might be called up for this very reason and that needs to change and change rapidly. There is nothing right now that tells me this’ll suddenly change under HHH because, well, HHH hasn’t had to deal with a network on an important show before. He has to adjust and figure out the lay of the land before any talents think about wanting to go back.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 25, 2022 13:10:27 GMT -5
I'm sure there will be talent to return, but I think a lot will have a wait and see approach... cause even people who are highly complimentary of Triple H have said they just weren't fans of the system. This is a big thing I feel people are ignoring. Even now, NXT 2.0 has the same problems as NXT Yellow and Gold did. Talent are still only shown how to do matches with a week of rehearsal and not prepared for life on the road where you need to plan your match day of and it could go from 10 minutes to 2 because of a rapidly changing script for whatever reason. Developmental is still failing those people who might be called up for this very reason and that needs to change and change rapidly. There is nothing right now that tells me this’ll suddenly change under HHH because, well, HHH hasn’t had to deal with a network on an important show before. He has to adjust and figure out the lay of the land before any talents think about wanting to go back. Like I think some people also have to realize that while most complaints are about creative on the main roster, the travel for WWE still is a big issue. Use FTR as an example. They had nothing bad to say about anybody and just said they wanted tag team wrestling to be treated with respect. Well if they were offered a big deal they've said they'd listen but both have also come out and said the big thing they like now (especially Dax) is they can see their family now, and they control their bookings outside of AEW. Pac has said in interviews that while he is thankful for his time in WWE, he enjoys being out of the bubble. Sami Callihan, and Juice Robinson have said that too. Point being it's not all a Vince and his cronies thing.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jul 25, 2022 16:07:50 GMT -5
Triple H got Ultimate Warrior and Bruno Sammartino back into the WWE fold.
I think he's got a knack for winning people over.
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