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Post by edgestar on Jul 31, 2022 10:25:46 GMT -5
I'm so damn happy, especially if she's going to be more like 2016 dorky face Becky than The Man. She also turned heel at SummerSlam 2018, BTW. Is she the first person to turn at the same PPV three times? 😂 I was at Summerslam 2018!
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Post by papagiorgio on Jul 31, 2022 10:29:11 GMT -5
I would guess there will be some sort of tag match at Clash. They have to have Becky on that card.
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Post by Stu on Jul 31, 2022 10:45:42 GMT -5
So how did she hurt her arm last night anyway?
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Post by theironyuppie on Jul 31, 2022 10:59:53 GMT -5
Heel Ronda vs Face Becky is the money match. They need to make this happen at Mania. It should have happened at Wrestlemania 35, but no, we just had to have Charlotte in the match.
It's always going to be a divisive topic, but as much as fans argue that Becky/Ronda was 100% the obvious match, without Nia's botch on the Survivor Series go-home, it very likely would have been face Charlotte/Ronda at Mania 35. That match had been speculated on from basically the night after Mania 34, they'd set up a story where Becky got the boost of beating Charlotte and could then face Ronda at SS (so fans would have already seen that match), while after Evolution Charlotte was laying low with a 'crisis of confidence' story that probably would have ended in her winning the Rumble. Nia messing up what should have been a routine brawl gave the world bloody Becky, meant that Charlotte/Ronda was the match that had already happened (and as good as that was, there's no way it could compete with how people imagined Becky/Ronda to go), and sent the hype for a potential Becky/Ronda match into overdrive.
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Post by asuka007 on Jul 31, 2022 11:53:34 GMT -5
Becky vs. Io as a Raw ME PLEASE!!
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Post by schma on Jul 31, 2022 12:08:29 GMT -5
It should have happened at Wrestlemania 35, but no, we just had to have Charlotte in the match.
It's always going to be a divisive topic, but as much as fans argue that Becky/Ronda was 100% the obvious match, without Nia's botch on the Survivor Series go-home, it very likely would have been face Charlotte/Ronda at Mania 35. That match had been speculated on from basically the night after Mania 34, they'd set up a story where Becky got the boost of beating Charlotte and could then face Ronda at SS (so fans would have already seen that match), while after Evolution Charlotte was laying low with a 'crisis of confidence' story that probably would have ended in her winning the Rumble. Nia messing up what should have been a routine brawl gave the world bloody Becky, meant that Charlotte/Ronda was the match that had already happened (and as good as that was, there's no way it could compete with how people imagined Becky/Ronda to go), and sent the hype for a potential Becky/Ronda match into overdrive.
Bloody Becky definitely worked out amazingly for Becky, the timing was too good and saved her from the Ronda match at SS. That said, Becky was definitely on fire at that point and it's possible we would have had the opposite, Charlotte/Ronda with Becky added in (or possibly a triple threat from the start). I know the plan had been Charlotte/Ronda but Becky had the audience all over her even before Nia's screwup. I was at Smackdown a couple weeks after the triple threat at Summerslam and you should have heard the place erupt when Becky ran in and started beating Charlotte down. It was so loud I actually felt bad for Charlotte despite being a huge Becky fan. That was only at the beginning of it.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 31, 2022 12:32:12 GMT -5
People really didn't want to boo Becky.
Vince leaves.
Becky is babyface again.
Well, ain't that something.
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Post by Fade on Jul 31, 2022 12:34:02 GMT -5
The stupid, ridiculous, crazy, sexy outfits won’t stop will they?
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jul 31, 2022 13:11:18 GMT -5
People really didn't want to boo Becky. Vince leaves. Becky is babyface again. Well, ain't that something. Yeah, Wade Keller/PWTorch said that Becky going face and Ronda going heel is all HHH and Vince had no plans to turn either of them anytime soon. You could've probably got another couple of months out of face Ronda before doing her turn if you really tried but Becky absolutely couldn't wait any longer. In just one week HHH has already overturned a bunch of dumb Vince shit. He turned Becky. Turned Ronda. Brought Dakota back. Gave Bayley the stable Vince rejected last year. Called Io up. Brought Max Dupri back to MMM after Vince replaced him.
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Post by papagiorgio on Jul 31, 2022 13:18:20 GMT -5
It seemed like they had been leading to a Rhonda heel turn since Money in the Bank. It was very predictable compared to the Becky face turn.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 31, 2022 13:19:06 GMT -5
People really didn't want to boo Becky. Vince leaves. Becky is babyface again. Well, ain't that something. Yeah, Wade Keller/PWTorch said that Becky going face and Ronda going heel is all HHH and Vince had no plans to turn either of them anytime soon. You could've probably got another couple of months out of face Ronda before doing her turn if you really tried but Becky absolutely couldn't wait any longer. In just one week HHH has already overturned a bunch of dumb Vince shit. He turned Becky. Turned Ronda. Brought Dakota back. Gave Bayley the stable Vince rejected last year. Called Io up. Brought Max Dupri back to MMM after Vince replaced him. But wasn't Becky turning heel her decision?
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jul 31, 2022 13:24:35 GMT -5
Yeah, Wade Keller/PWTorch said that Becky going face and Ronda going heel is all HHH and Vince had no plans to turn either of them anytime soon. You could've probably got another couple of months out of face Ronda before doing her turn if you really tried but Becky absolutely couldn't wait any longer. In just one week HHH has already overturned a bunch of dumb Vince shit. He turned Becky. Turned Ronda. Brought Dakota back. Gave Bayley the stable Vince rejected last year. Called Io up. Brought Max Dupri back to MMM after Vince replaced him. But wasn't Becky turning heel her decision? Becky shot that rumor down in an interview shortly after returning last year. She said she was expecting to return as a face and was surprised when Vince said she would be heel.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 31, 2022 13:57:29 GMT -5
I see it as a sign of "We're not going to fight against fan reaction out of masturbatory spite".
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Post by asuka007 on Jul 31, 2022 14:44:47 GMT -5
There was nothing left to do with Becky as a heel anyway.
And with Bayley, Io, and Dakota all seemingly heels, and Rhea’s heel turn, Raw is more then Heel set.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jul 31, 2022 15:00:01 GMT -5
There was nothing left to do with Becky as a heel anyway. And with Bayley, Io, and Dakota all seemingly heels, and Rhea’s heel turn, Raw is more then Heel set. Both shows are way too lopsided in favor of heels. Raw still too even with Becky turning face. This is the scorecard right now across both brands Heels Bayley (Raw) Io (Raw) Dakota (Raw) Rhea (Raw) Doudrop (Raw) Nikki (Raw) Carmella (Raw) Zelina (Raw) (injured) Charlotte (SD) (hiatus) Lacey (SD) Natalya (SD) Sonya (SD) Shayna (SD) Xia Li (SD) Shotzi (SD) Ronda (SD) (?) Total: 16Faces Bianca (Raw) Becky (Raw) Asuka (Raw) Alexa (Raw) Dana (Raw) Liv (SD) Raquel (SD) Aliyah (SD) Total: 8So there is literally two times more heels across both brands if you count Ronda. SD in particular is really hurting for faces with only three on the show right now. It also doesn't help that of the eight faces the only one who doesn't have protection booking and can be used to put people over is Aliyah. Even Dana is protected from jobbing due to the 24/7 garbage.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Jul 31, 2022 15:07:45 GMT -5
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 31, 2022 15:11:49 GMT -5
There was nothing left to do with Becky as a heel anyway. And with Bayley, Io, and Dakota all seemingly heels, and Rhea’s heel turn, Raw is more then Heel set. Both shows are way too lopsided in favor of heels. Raw still too even with Becky turning face. This is the scorecard right now across both brands Heels Bayley (Raw) Io (Raw) Dakota (Raw) Rhea (Raw) Doudrop (Raw) Nikki (Raw) Carmella (Raw) Zelina (Raw) (injured) Charlotte (SD) (hiatus) Lacey (SD) Natalya (SD) Sonya (SD) Shayna (SD) Xia Li (SD) Shotzi (SD) Ronda (SD) (?) Total: 16Faces Bianca (Raw) Becky (Raw) Asuka (Raw) Alexa (Raw) Dana (Raw) Liv (SD) Raquel (SD) Aliyah (SD) Total: 8So there is literally two times more heels across both brands if you count Ronda. SD in particular is really hurting for faces with only three on the show right now. It also doesn't help that of the eight faces the only one who doesn't have protection booking and can be used to put people over is Aliyah. Even Dana is protected from jobbing due to the 24/7 garbage. I think there's a chance of Sasha and Naomi returning after Vince's retirement. Zelina could also be turned face when she returns.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jul 31, 2022 15:18:24 GMT -5
Both shows are way too lopsided in favor of heels. Raw still too even with Becky turning face. This is the scorecard right now across both brands Heels Bayley (Raw) Io (Raw) Dakota (Raw) Rhea (Raw) Doudrop (Raw) Nikki (Raw) Carmella (Raw) Zelina (Raw) (injured) Charlotte (SD) (hiatus) Lacey (SD) Natalya (SD) Sonya (SD) Shayna (SD) Xia Li (SD) Shotzi (SD) Ronda (SD) (?) Total: 16Faces Bianca (Raw) Becky (Raw) Asuka (Raw) Alexa (Raw) Dana (Raw) Liv (SD) Raquel (SD) Aliyah (SD) Total: 8So there is literally two times more heels across both brands if you count Ronda. SD in particular is really hurting for faces with only three on the show right now. It also doesn't help that of the eight faces the only one who doesn't have protection booking and can be used to put people over is Aliyah. Even Dana is protected from jobbing due to the 24/7 garbage. I think there's a chance of Sasha and Naomi returning after Vince's retirement. Zelina could also be turned face when she returns. I have a tough time seeing Zelina as a face. Honestly I think it might be a better fit for her but I don't think she's ever been a face anywhere and the Queen gimmick only works as a heel. Of the two of them I think Carmella would probably be a better option to turn someone on Raw. I hope they don't bring back Sasha and Naomi but I can see that likely happening now. Even with those two though there's still much more heels. Also it doesn't help the problem with the lack of babyface enhancers. I guess Naomi could be that but they were pushing her fairly strong this year before she left. Unfortunately I see Liv being used in that capacity once her title reign ends.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 31, 2022 15:33:20 GMT -5
I could see Shotzi turning face sooner rather than later. She's pretty useless as a heel and Triple H always seemed to understand her appeal.
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