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Post by DoubleDare on Jul 31, 2022 8:20:54 GMT -5
I don't know too much about Logan Paul outside of the jist he's a youtube and such and don't really care either. I just know for a celeb dude he has really been trained good and did a great match last night.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jul 31, 2022 9:29:01 GMT -5
This might be his "thing".
I'm not the biggest Logan fan either, he's a low-tier boxer and his rapping is hot trash. But he's got the athleticism and screen presence needed to carve out a nice WWE niche for himself.
Plus it keeps him out of forbidden forests.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jul 31, 2022 9:31:46 GMT -5
A Styles/Paul team wouldn't be the worst short term idea; allows Paul to learn even more from a great veteran and refine his stuff in a relatively safe role.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 9:35:42 GMT -5
The last like, five celebrities they've brought in people have been like "OH MY GOD, HE'S A NATURAL! HE TOTALLY GETS IT!"
They're just being protected by a shit ton of smoke and mirrors. We say wrestling isn't all about the moves, but lose our mind when a guy does a frog splash.
They're being carried by extremely talented wrestlers around them and put in situations to succeed. It's good promotion, but the case for Logan as a prodigy is overstated.
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Post by thechase on Jul 31, 2022 9:41:29 GMT -5
The last like, five celebrities they've brought in people have been like "OH MY GOD, HE'S A NATURAL! HE TOTALLY GETS IT!" They're just being protected by a shit ton of smoke and mirrors. We say wrestling isn't all about the moves, but lose our mind when a guy does a frog splash. They're being carried by extremely talented wrestlers around them and put in situations to succeed. It's good promotion, but the case for Logan as a prodigy is overstated. You're fun at parties
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 31, 2022 9:54:21 GMT -5
The last like, five celebrities they've brought in people have been like "OH MY GOD, HE'S A NATURAL! HE TOTALLY GETS IT!" They're just being protected by a shit ton of smoke and mirrors. We say wrestling isn't all about the moves, but lose our mind when a guy does a frog splash. They're being carried by extremely talented wrestlers around them and put in situations to succeed. It's good promotion, but the case for Logan as a prodigy is overstated. Did you see the match? He’s not just doing high spots. Just his movements in general in the ring are extremely fluid and his athleticism is next level when compared to other wrestlers (not just other celebrities).
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Post by Stu on Jul 31, 2022 10:17:04 GMT -5
I suspect the roster will probably keep him in check and discourage any bad behavior. If this was in the mid-90s, he'd probably join the Kliq.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 31, 2022 10:21:31 GMT -5
The last like, five celebrities they've brought in people have been like " OH MY GOD, HE'S A NATURAL! HE TOTALLY GETS IT!"They're just being protected by a shit ton of smoke and mirrors. We say wrestling isn't all about the moves, but lose our mind when a guy does a frog splash. They're being carried by extremely talented wrestlers around them and put in situations to succeed. It's good promotion, but the case for Logan as a prodigy is overstated. Because they have been. It takes two (or more) to tango and McAfee, Bad Bunny and Logan have taken it to a new level This is a wrestling spot, not a celebrity spot. It was all on Logan to make it happen and he did. Of course they need the professionals in the ring to make this go smooth but to act like it is all smoke and mirrors is disingenuous
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Post by XIII on Jul 31, 2022 10:39:38 GMT -5
The fact that Logan Paul who had zero wrestling experience up until some months back and can come in and not be out of place and carry every bit of his weight indicates that he has worked very hard and is athletic enough to be perceived as something of a natural. Same with Bad Bunny and Pat McAffee.
Contrast their performances versus people that have shown up in WWE/NXT with varying degrees of experience and how awkward some of them have looked in the ring.
The celebrities that they’re bringing in these days are the equivalent of when WCW would bring in football players that took it seriously (before they started bringing in guys like Jay Leno(who had no business wrestling) and Dennis Rodman (who looked okay but didn’t take it seriously).
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Post by Ozman on Jul 31, 2022 11:05:52 GMT -5
Logan Paul is awesome!!!
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Post by Stu on Jul 31, 2022 11:17:02 GMT -5
I was gonna say Bunny, McAfee and Paul have all had two matches at this point and the only loss involved Buddy's Rumble appearance. But then I remembered McAfee worked in NXT. Either way, they all did more than most celebs. Is Steve Amell the last celeb to have a big match before those three?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 31, 2022 11:20:45 GMT -5
I was gonna say Bunny, McAfee and Paul have all had two matches at this point and the only loss involved Buddy's Rumble appearance. But then I remembered McAfee worked in NXT. Either way, they all did more than most celebs. Is Steve Amell the last celeb to have a big match before those three? Well can include Knoxville from this year Mania
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 11:26:06 GMT -5
The last like, five celebrities they've brought in people have been like "OH MY GOD, HE'S A NATURAL! HE TOTALLY GETS IT!" They're just being protected by a shit ton of smoke and mirrors. We say wrestling isn't all about the moves, but lose our mind when a guy does a frog splash. They're being carried by extremely talented wrestlers around them and put in situations to succeed. It's good promotion, but the case for Logan as a prodigy is overstated. You're fun at parties I really wish people on this board would stop taking shots at people - even minor ones like this - for not agreeing with what a lot of other people think. The mods have told people to stop doing it a thousand times. Multiple people have deleted their accounts. It's annoying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 11:26:38 GMT -5
The last like, five celebrities they've brought in people have been like "OH MY GOD, HE'S A NATURAL! HE TOTALLY GETS IT!" They're just being protected by a shit ton of smoke and mirrors. We say wrestling isn't all about the moves, but lose our mind when a guy does a frog splash. They're being carried by extremely talented wrestlers around them and put in situations to succeed. It's good promotion, but the case for Logan as a prodigy is overstated. Did you see the match? He’s not just doing high spots. Just his movements in general in the ring are extremely fluid and his athleticism is next level when compared to other wrestlers (not just other celebrities). I didn't see him do anything a bunch of guys already in the company can't already do.
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Post by papagiorgio on Jul 31, 2022 11:27:27 GMT -5
I was gonna say Bunny, McAfee and Paul have all had two matches at this point and the only loss involved Buddy's Rumble appearance. But then I remembered McAfee worked in NXT. Either way, they all did more than most celebs. Is Steve Amell the last celeb to have a big match before those three? McAfee technically has three on the main roster since he lost to Vince at Wrestlemania (also lost twice in NXT). Even though it is not realistic, I always assume the celebrity is going to win (not including matches like the Rumble). They rarely lose. Knoxville probably would have had zero issues eating a pin against Sami, but they still had Knoxville go over. Logan and Bad Bunny are probably the best celebrity wrestlers in a long time. Although a celebrity, I consider McAfee more a regular employee due to his announcing. I'm curious how many dates are on Logan's new contract.
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Post by Stu on Jul 31, 2022 11:33:24 GMT -5
Did you see the match? He’s not just doing high spots. Just his movements in general in the ring are extremely fluid and his athleticism is next level when compared to other wrestlers (not just other celebrities). I didn't see him do anything a bunch of guys already in the company can't already do. It’s notable that a celebrity is able to do things that full-time roster members can do.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 31, 2022 11:35:52 GMT -5
I really wish people on this board would stop taking shots at people - even minor ones like this - for not agreeing with what a lot of other people think. The mods have told people to stop doing it a thousand times. Multiple people have deleted their accounts. It's annoying. Your first post came off as not just negative about Paul's ability (which fine that's an opinion) but belittling and condescending to anyone who thought it was good. If you don't like people taking shots at you, don't dish them out in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 11:41:14 GMT -5
I really wish people on this board would stop taking shots at people - even minor ones like this - for not agreeing with what a lot of other people think. The mods have told people to stop doing it a thousand times. Multiple people have deleted their accounts. It's annoying. Your first post came off as not just negative about Paul's ability (which fine that's an opinion) but belittling and condescending to anyone who thought it was good. If you don't like people taking shots at you, don't dish them out in the first place. "HE'S A NATURAL, HE GETS IT!" is an absolutely accurate accounting of the reactions to Logan Paul, Bad Bunny, Johnny Knoxville and Stephen Amell off the top of my head. This threads FIRST POST is a guy going "He's already this good!" which is the same thing in different words. The second post literally contains the word "He's a natural." The fourth post is "dude i kind of made for this business." I'm not taking a shot. I'm writing down the point I disagree with without saying anything personally about the people who have opinions I disagree with.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 31, 2022 11:45:34 GMT -5
Did you see the match? He’s not just doing high spots. Just his movements in general in the ring are extremely fluid and his athleticism is next level when compared to other wrestlers (not just other celebrities). I didn't see him do anything a bunch of guys already in the company can't already do. I think his athleticism and fluidity is better than a lot of seasoned vets at this point. Obviously he’s still a little green, it’s his second ever match. And if in his 2nd match, he looks like he’s doing things that other full-time wrestlers in the company can do, doesn’t that lend itself to the conclusion that he is a natural?
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 31, 2022 11:47:08 GMT -5
Welp.
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