Fade
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by Fade on Aug 6, 2022 0:50:13 GMT -5
Honestly not sure which way they’d go in a triple-threat/triangle match, so in that respect, it’s not the worst idea 🤷 Half of the Audience doesnt even know who Kross is and the other half doesnt care sounds like a bad idea to have him at all. Oh it absolutely could be. I’m just down for the ride. This is where the rubber hits the road with Hairrion and Papa H’s fixation on him. We’re going to see if shit flies or not.
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Post by Stu on Aug 6, 2022 1:00:50 GMT -5
Just watched the clip. Seemed like that was the longest "Wait, is that.... is that... oh my god, it's... it's (blank)!" in a long time.
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Post by WZWA Network on Aug 6, 2022 1:02:59 GMT -5
I feel like it would be a mistake to give Kross one of the world titles without a story that means something before he reaches there. Rushing such a moment when the wider audience still doesn't know a whole lot about him will make the moment less meaningful. People shouldn't hit the pinnacle so early on, you always need a few years of story and character driven stuff before that should happen. Boy, it would be fun seeing somebody different in the Main Event scene for once, I'll admit that.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Aug 6, 2022 1:54:08 GMT -5
What we saw tonight is the wrestling booking equivilant of freestyling in the DJ Booth.
Bringing back Karrion Kross to close the show, and hint him in a main event program with Drew as a miniboss to reach Roman... Does that make sense after how he was booked last time? Who knows, who cares. Papa H is doing it anyway. Suck it!
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2022 1:55:28 GMT -5
If you wanted to use Kross to get one of the belts off Roman it's make way more sense to make it a triple threat with both belts on the line like at Mania 2000. Roman retains one, Drew pins Kross to win the other.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 6, 2022 1:59:10 GMT -5
If you wanted to use Kross to get one of the belts off Roman it's make way more sense to make it a triple threat with both belts on the line like at Mania 2000. Roman retains one, Drew pins Kross to win the other. Yeah, Kross should absolutely not win either title... it would literally be the NXT thing again where no one cared about him all over again...
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 6, 2022 2:43:40 GMT -5
He's not the worst guy they've pushed by any means but I don't get H's fascination with this guy. He's more like Karrion CAW
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thehottag
Don Corleone
We're here for one reason only: fame, fortune, & the World Wrestling Federation Tag Team Champions!
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Post by thehottag on Aug 6, 2022 2:53:00 GMT -5
Just watched the clip. Seemed like that was the longest "Wait, is that.... is that... oh my god, it's... it's (blank)!" in a long time. Maybe they legitimately didn't know and were waiting for someone to tell them. Like when you don't know someone's name at a party & try to stall.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Aug 6, 2022 3:04:38 GMT -5
I don’t mind Kross and he got screwed hard when he got to the main roster, but I’ll be decked if Roman’s two year reign came to an end at the hands of Karrion ****ing Kross.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2022 3:09:39 GMT -5
Honestly I've never bought the idea that Kross was screwed over by the main roster. He wasn't used well certainly, nor did he get a stellar introduction, but I don't blame them for completely overhauling his presentation because no one gave a shit about him in NXT as it was. It's not like they took some hot act and booked it into the ground, he was cold when they got him.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Aug 6, 2022 3:33:26 GMT -5
I have no idea if the end result will be decent (it’s Kross, so probably not) but it’s just so refreshing to be in such a clearly radically different era.
Vince had his time once upon a time… but as a mind, he stagnated and was stuck in his own stale stubborn ways. This new direction was so badly needed, even if shit like Kross inevitably won’t pan out. It’ll be really interesting to see H’s reaction if he’s universally rejected by the main shows.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Aug 6, 2022 3:36:32 GMT -5
Also, it’s incredible that this is what Scarlett was wearing …
And my reaction was “Huh she looks somewhat normal tonight!”
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 6, 2022 5:10:47 GMT -5
He has the catchphrase tick tock but the visual of an hourglass? Think that sums him up, doesn't quite work. Kross was not working in NXT either, there's a reason why Gargano & Cole both cut promos burying him that were pretty well received. And then there was that five way where the crowd was red hot any time he was out of the ring and dead silent any time he actually did anything. Kross being booked like Lesnar in that match was absolutely ridiculous, made every other guy look so bad.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 6, 2022 5:36:33 GMT -5
He has the catchphrase tick tock but the visual of an hourglass? Think that sums him up, doesn't quite work. And then there was that five way where the crowd was red hot any time he was out of the ring and dead silent any time he actually did anything. Kross being booked like Lesnar in that match was absolutely ridiculous, made every other guy look so bad. That’s the thing that soured me on Kross. He’s not a Lesnar-type, and he shouldn’t be booked as such. If he can do one of those bumping meat matches with McIntyre like he had with Sheamus last week, that would suffice.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 6, 2022 5:41:09 GMT -5
Honestly I've never bought the idea that Kross was screwed over by the main roster. He wasn't used well certainly, nor did he get a stellar introduction… I mean, that’s all they think of him for and it all happened whilst being champion so I’d say that defines being screwed over. And I’m far from a fan of the guy but when it looks like a duck etc.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Aug 6, 2022 6:38:45 GMT -5
If you wanted to use Kross to get one of the belts off Roman it's make way more sense to make it a triple threat with both belts on the line like at Mania 2000. Roman retains one, Drew pins Kross to win the other. This is absolutely what they need to do. The titles need to be separate again. Roman had his run with both, Raw needs a world title to focus the main event on. (Although making the US Title feel important is a good stop gap)
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 6, 2022 7:25:51 GMT -5
What makes his terrible booking on the main roster and the promos burying him on NXT even funnier is he's one of the guys they actually like
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 6, 2022 7:30:46 GMT -5
Honestly I've never bought the idea that Kross was screwed over by the main roster. He wasn't used well certainly, nor did he get a stellar introduction… I mean, that’s all they think of him for and it all happened whilst being champion so I’d say that defines being screwed over. And I’m far from a fan of the guy but when it looks like a duck etc. Yeah. I really think it's hard to use the NXT audience of that era as a way to judge people. As others have mentioned, if you weren't one of "their" guys or an indie darling, I think it was very hard to get a response there. Kross had a killer entrance, valet and look. Then he got to the main roster and they stripped him of all of that, put him in an unflattering gladiator costume that bunched up around his stomach and some weird gimp helmet. They absolutely screwed him over. I saw him at one of the Bloodsport events and in person, that dude is imposing. Is he going to be my favorite on the main roster? Maybe not. But should he actually get a real chance at it? Yeah.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 6, 2022 7:56:20 GMT -5
I mean, that’s all they think of him for and it all happened whilst being champion so I’d say that defines being screwed over. And I’m far from a fan of the guy but when it looks like a duck etc. Yeah. I really think it's hard to use the NXT audience of that era as a way to judge people. As others have mentioned, if you weren't one of "their" guys or an indie darling, I think it was very hard to get a response there. Kross had a killer entrance, valet and look. Then he got to the main roster and they stripped him of all of that, put him in an unflattering gladiator costume that bunched up around his stomach and some weird gimp helmet. They absolutely screwed him over. I saw him at one of the Bloodsport events and in person, that dude is imposing. Is he going to be my favorite on the main roster? Maybe not. But should he actually get a real chance at it? Yeah. Like, again, the big thing I want from HHH's time as both head of talent relations and creative is to streamline this stuff. If you do something in NXT, the objective is to fine tune it to make it main roster ready, not scrap it all because the dude in charge has a better idea, it just undermines the whole process. Like, off the top of my head, the only person I can think of who didn't have a fundamental shift who wasn't already a name of some kind was Elias. He strummed a guitar and annoyed people in NXT which transferred to him strumming a guitar and annoying people on the main roster. Simple. Literally the only thing that changed was the dropping of his last name.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Aug 6, 2022 9:07:17 GMT -5
You know what I've had some time to think about it, and I've come to this conclusion...
As long as Scarlett isn't doing the worst lip syncing in the history of recorded ever I'll try and wait and see what happens.
(also bonus points if Kross figures out how to make a 3rd expression)
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