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Post by Mecca on Sept 1, 2022 15:45:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I think either HHH or someone else told everyone that people of all races, religions, and identities were welcome and he threw a hissy fit and stormed out. But you know, it's other people who are the snowflakes. HBK was the one who said it. But Wuertz isn't coming back anyways, because I don't see Nick Khan letting a walking PR disaster like him back in. Especially since Drake did his big "protect the children from those evil demonrats" speech in his WWE uniform, in a WWE facility. Wuertz is the line they don't cross..the other shitheads though they're welcome.
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Post by Jonathan Coachman on Sept 1, 2022 15:48:37 GMT -5
Am probably the only one happy for Braun to come back but if he does come we need like 2016-2018 run.
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 1, 2022 15:48:48 GMT -5
Do you have any links/sources to show of him being at Qanon rallies or being associated with the Operation Underground Railroad? Google and Twitter search isn’t turning anything up for me. The rally was from someone who was documenting the event, and the O.U.R. stuff was some instagram story stuff at the time (so it lasts 24 hours and is gone forever unless the person archives it), he was shilling it along with Drake Wuertz. It was a "Hey show up at this Operation Underground Railroad fundraiser I'll be at and donate and I'll give you an autograph and sign some merch!" The rally timeframe can be easily guessed, as both him and Raquel disappeared off of TV around the same time, and both were spotted at the motorcycle rally. This was at the time when Vince was deadly serious about not wanting stars to do that stuff, as it was right when COVID was really starting to run wild. It was before Takeover 31, I think? Raquel returned right before the event, but was gone from TV for a month or two before that, and so was Braun. That timeframe lines up with the Daytona Biketober rally I was talking about earlier. Nothing to do with Qanon. It’s a biker rally.
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Post by darbus alan on Sept 1, 2022 15:59:58 GMT -5
The rally was from someone who was documenting the event, and the O.U.R. stuff was some instagram story stuff at the time (so it lasts 24 hours and is gone forever unless the person archives it), he was shilling it along with Drake Wuertz. It was a "Hey show up at this Operation Underground Railroad fundraiser I'll be at and donate and I'll give you an autograph and sign some merch!" The rally timeframe can be easily guessed, as both him and Raquel disappeared off of TV around the same time, and both were spotted at the motorcycle rally. This was at the time when Vince was deadly serious about not wanting stars to do that stuff, as it was right when COVID was really starting to run wild. It was before Takeover 31, I think? Raquel returned right before the event, but was gone from TV for a month or two before that, and so was Braun. That timeframe lines up with the Daytona Biketober rally I was talking about earlier. Nothing to do with Qanon. It’s a biker rally. Still far right wing rallies. tomato-tomahto. Like I don't know if he is an actual Qanon member or not, but so many of his displayed beliefs and activities line up with them where it's close enough to not really matter. It's just splitting hairs.
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 1, 2022 16:07:30 GMT -5
That timeframe lines up with the Daytona Biketober rally I was talking about earlier. Nothing to do with Qanon. It’s a biker rally. Still far right wing rallies. tomato-tomahto. Like I don't know if he is an actual Qanon member or not, but so many of his displayed beliefs and activities line up with them where it's close enough to not really matter. It's just splitting hairs. I have a bit of trouble with people conflating conservatives in general with right-wing conspiracy nut jobs, but I’ll leave it at that so as to not delve far into the politics realm on this board.
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Post by papagiorgio on Sept 1, 2022 16:09:21 GMT -5
If they disagree with one's opinions, they are an extremists by a lot of people's standards these days. Triple H and the McMahons probably have more in common with the Brauns than the Punks of the world and they seem willing to hire people from all walks of life.
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Post by Mecca on Sept 1, 2022 16:10:33 GMT -5
If they disagree with one's opinions, they are an extremists by a lot of people's standards these days. Triple H and the McMahons probably have more in common with the Brauns than the Punks of the world and they seem willing to hire people from all walks of life. He said enough problematic shit that AEW literally had no interest, what's that say?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 16:14:56 GMT -5
If they disagree with one's opinions, they are an extremists by a lot of people's standards these days. Triple H and the McMahons probably have more in common with the Brauns than the Punks of the world and they seem willing to hire people from all walks of life. He said enough problematic shit that AEW literally had no interest, what's that say? I'm guessing his dumbass comments during the pandemic about struggling indie wrestlers had a lot to do with it. And it's not like he really apologized IIRC, he just said it was "taken out of context." 🙄
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Post by Mecca on Sept 1, 2022 16:15:31 GMT -5
He said enough problematic shit that AEW literally had no interest, what's that say? I'm guessing his dumbass comments during the pandemic about struggling indie wrestlers had a lot to do with it. And it's not like he really apologized IIRC, he just said it was "taken out of context." 🙄 Yea the dude is just stupid beyond anything political.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2022 16:21:14 GMT -5
His absolute failure of an Indie run at the very least makes his pandemic tweets about Indie wrestlers all the funnier and ironic in the end.
The dude can get over with live crowds very easily, his biggest enemy is himself.
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Post by J is Justice on Sept 1, 2022 17:19:51 GMT -5
Still waiting for Tucker.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Sept 1, 2022 17:53:11 GMT -5
Braun also called Raquel his "spicy senorita" which is just a very cringe thing for a white dude to say about his non-white partner. It just rubbed me the wrong way. I was married to a black woman for years. She loved being called my ebony queen. Uf Raquel is cool with it, who are you to judge?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 1, 2022 17:59:24 GMT -5
Braun also called Raquel his "spicy senorita" which is just a very cringe thing for a white dude to say about his non-white partner. It just rubbed me the wrong way. I was married to a black woman for years. She loved being called my ebony queen. Uf Raquel is cool with it, who are you to judge? I've spoken to some of my Hispanic female friends who feel terms like that, especially from non Hispanic folks, contributes to stereotypes and sexualization of women like them.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Sept 1, 2022 18:00:38 GMT -5
I was married to a black woman for years. She loved being called my ebony queen. Uf Raquel is cool with it, who are you to judge? I've spoken to some of my Hispanic female friends who feel terms like that, especially from non Hispanic folks, contributes to stereotypes and sexualization of women like them. Ok? But it's still not your place to judge. If Raquel isn't offended that's that.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 1, 2022 18:01:31 GMT -5
I've spoken to some of my Hispanic female friends who feel terms like that, especially from non Hispanic folks, contributes to stereotypes and sexualization of women like them. Ok? But it's still not your place to judge. If Raquel isn't offended that's that. Agree to disagree then.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Sept 1, 2022 18:04:19 GMT -5
Ok? But it's still not your place to judge. If Raquel isn't offended that's that. Agree to disagree then. How is there anything to disagree on? My ex wife loved be my melanin momma, my ebony queen, my sweet chocolate. Sure some people thought it was disrespectful and racist, but Bethany, (my wife) loved it. And it was no big deal. They were nick names I had for her. So if Raquel isn't offended, who cares what other people think?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 1, 2022 18:07:48 GMT -5
How is there anything to disagree on? My ex wife loved be my melanin momma, my ebony queen, my sweet chocolate. Sure some people thought it was disrespectful and racist, but Bethany, (my wife) loved it. And it was no big deal. They were nick names I had for her. So if Raquel isn't offended, who cares what other people think? I just think we have different philosophies here on when it is appropriate to judge and the difference between sharing preferences with your partner in private versus sharing them in ways that could contribute to harmful stereotypes for particular groups. And that's fine and I imagine you disagree with that and I get it based on your own experience. I don't think we'll come to a common ground here so I'll be bowing out of this particular back and forth.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Sept 1, 2022 18:17:01 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 1, 2022 18:51:03 GMT -5
Ehhh, he will never be as over as he was when I had my Braun is OP thread but he does get over with the live crowds
They hid a lot of his weaknesses early on but really all he has to do is wreck shit and fans will love him
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 1, 2022 19:31:57 GMT -5
H is definitely going to do AJ a favor and sign the Club.
If Braun is back and I can see him adding a tag team next.
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