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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 14, 2022 12:57:18 GMT -5
I kinda wish he did more in wrestling as the Funhouse Bray... and at least differentiated his wrestling style more... that way it'd be more of a shock when the fiend actually shows up... Bingo. And he should lose as Funhouse Bray. When he faced I think The Miz really on as Funhouse Bray, he should've lost clean. Instead, he won, and it was like, okay what's the point of The Forms if he can still beat people as regular form. But then it just becomes “He should be in Fiend mode all the time so he can win all the time”. Balor has/had the same issue with the demon paint, if you have this super mode where you almost always win, why not stay in it all the time?
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Aug 14, 2022 14:35:04 GMT -5
Bingo. And he should lose as Funhouse Bray. When he faced I think The Miz really on as Funhouse Bray, he should've lost clean. Instead, he won, and it was like, okay what's the point of The Forms if he can still beat people as regular form. But then it just becomes “He should be in Fiend mode all the time so he can win all the time”. Balor has/had the same issue with the demon paint, if you have this super mode where you almost always win, why not stay in it all the time? He's buried deep down and circumstances need to be dire for that persona to come out. It's shouldn't be a choice that the person makes to be The Fiend or The Demon, but an absolute necessity when all else has failed.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 14, 2022 14:45:32 GMT -5
I kinda wish he did more in wrestling as the Funhouse Bray... and at least differentiated his wrestling style more... that way it'd be more of a shock when the fiend actually shows up... Bingo. And he should lose as Funhouse Bray. When he faced I think The Miz really on as Funhouse Bray, he should've lost clean. Instead, he won, and it was like, okay what's the point of The Forms if he can still beat people as regular form. I didn't mind that he WON as Funhouse Bray... but he still wrestled like the fiend... no selling things and doing the neck snap and stuff... I know it must be a pain to wrestle two different styles depending on a gimmick but if you're doing something like that... but like at least when Finn was the demon he tended to do a lot more dives and high risk stuff...
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 14, 2022 14:50:26 GMT -5
But then it just becomes “He should be in Fiend mode all the time so he can win all the time”. Balor has/had the same issue with the demon paint, if you have this super mode where you almost always win, why not stay in it all the time? He's buried deep down and circumstances need to be dire for that persona to come out. It's shouldn't be a choice that the person makes to be The Fiend or The Demon, but an absolute necessity when all else has failed. Yeah, or with Funhouse Bray he does a Bruce Banner type you won't like me when I'm angry type thing... where even Bray himself is afraid of what the fiend can do and basically tries to keep it under control.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Aug 14, 2022 15:22:03 GMT -5
He's buried deep down and circumstances need to be dire for that persona to come out. It's shouldn't be a choice that the person makes to be The Fiend or The Demon, but an absolute necessity when all else has failed. Yeah, or with Funhouse Bray he does a Bruce Banner type you won't like me when I'm angry type thing... where even Bray himself is afraid of what the fiend can do and basically tries to keep it under control. I was actually thinking of the Hulk from the last Avengers movies where Bruce is trying to get him to come out and Hulk refuses until the situation is dire enough that he absolutely must.
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Post by Push R Truth on Aug 14, 2022 21:33:06 GMT -5
If we are just going to get a bunch of vague "I'm 14 and this is deep" sounding bullshit OR a wannabe Joker supernatural ripoff: there's a ton of random dudes in backyard feds that already do the same thing. I'd rather see Brimstone. At least his bullshit is so pathetic it's funny.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 21:59:20 GMT -5
Bingo. And he should lose as Funhouse Bray. When he faced I think The Miz really on as Funhouse Bray, he should've lost clean. Instead, he won, and it was like, okay what's the point of The Forms if he can still beat people as regular form. But then it just becomes “He should be in Fiend mode all the time so he can win all the time”. Balor has/had the same issue with the demon paint, if you have this super mode where you almost always win, why not stay in it all the time? I've always hated that, and there's literally a quick, easy way out of it: "The Demon" takes something out of him every time he does it. He's still a man, but he can be more than a man while wearing the paint. The paint's got to come off eventually, though, and Finn Balor's has to feel the brunt of what the The Demon tapped into the next day.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 15, 2022 0:50:35 GMT -5
But then it just becomes “He should be in Fiend mode all the time so he can win all the time”. Balor has/had the same issue with the demon paint, if you have this super mode where you almost always win, why not stay in it all the time? I've always hated that, and there's literally a quick, easy way out of it: "The Demon" takes something out of him every time he does it. He's still a man, but he can be more than a man while wearing the paint. The paint's got to come off eventually, though, and Finn Balor's has to feel the brunt of what the The Demon tapped into the next day. Yeah, even if you're doing it as just a mental/adrenaline thing and not like a full on possession like the Demon was supposed to be... the point mor less was he couldn't do it all the time.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 15, 2022 2:04:09 GMT -5
Yeah, the bigger issues with the Bray / Miz are 1), it was non-title for no apparent reason other than just to make Miz look like shit, and 2), he just wrestled exactly the same as he did as the Fiend rendering the whole thing completely pointless.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 15, 2022 2:48:38 GMT -5
Yeah, the bigger issues with the Bray / Miz are 1), it was non-title for no apparent reason other than just to make Miz look like shit, and 2), he just wrestled exactly the same as he did as the Fiend rendering the whole thing completely pointless. Yeah, him wrestling a more normal style and like not no selling everything would have gone a long way to make the match make more sense... cause if ... like you're the fiend even when you aren't the fiend... what's the point of the creepy murder clown mask?
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Aug 18, 2022 16:49:51 GMT -5
If he comes back I hope it's as a new gimmick. He can still be Bray Wyatt but I want to see him do something even more evolved that will get him in the main event picture.
I'm not sure what exactly that gimmick would be but I'd like to see Triple H Era WWE give him a chance to just go all out with whatever he comes up with.
I know people don't love him in the ring but Bray is extremely underrated. A lot of his heel slow style was forced on him by management. If you watch his early stuff from FCW and when he first became Bray Wyatt he was actually extremely athletic. I think his brother Bo was a better worker overall but both of them are super underrated workers.
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