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Post by BlahBlah on Aug 15, 2022 8:33:52 GMT -5
Yeah this is because of the NFL and the real rating will likely be much lower. If anything it's testament to how people will watch anything football, even shitty preseason games with third stringers that don't matter. I say this as someone who's perfectly happy catching a decent football game when it's on, and fully acknowledge it's fun to go out and grab a beer and some wings on a Sunday afternoon, but holy shit I do not understand the obsession it generates. Then again, I know I'm the weirdo: I think baseball is much better and more enjoyable to watch because you get 162 games instead of 18 plus a couple preseason scrimmages, so to me there's always something new to talk about instead of just having to cook up narratives on ESPN all week. When I say "162 games is good, actually" to some people they look at me like I have three heads. Mostly boils down to gambling in the end, doesn't it? The obsession comes from the emotional attachment that millions of fans have with their teams. It's a really personal thing. To your baseball point, I'm a huge baseball fan as well but the 18 weeks of NFL is what makes it more alluring for people because every week is critical. Narratives never have to be cooked up, there's countless storylines that emerge from each game.
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Post by chronocross on Aug 15, 2022 9:17:37 GMT -5
Gunther in the main event = Ratings
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 15, 2022 9:19:10 GMT -5
I'm suspecting the actual number is probably going to be closer to 2 million but for what it's worth, Smackdown was an easy show to watch and actually set up some stuff I want to see. I wouldn't be shocked to see the rating start creeping up in general over the next few weeks. Things are getting better.
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 15, 2022 9:36:50 GMT -5
With all of the preemptions, I wouldn’t be surprised if the final number is sub-2 million
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 15, 2022 12:23:13 GMT -5
I say this as someone who's perfectly happy catching a decent football game when it's on, and fully acknowledge it's fun to go out and grab a beer and some wings on a Sunday afternoon, but holy shit I do not understand the obsession it generates. Then again, I know I'm the weirdo: I think baseball is much better and more enjoyable to watch because you get 162 games instead of 18 plus a couple preseason scrimmages, so to me there's always something new to talk about instead of just having to cook up narratives on ESPN all week. When I say "162 games is good, actually" to some people they look at me like I have three heads. Mostly boils down to gambling in the end, doesn't it? The obsession comes from the emotional attachment that millions of fans have with their teams. It's a really personal thing. To your baseball point, I'm a huge baseball fan as well but the 18 weeks of NFL is what makes it more alluring for people because every week is critical. Narratives never have to be cooked up, there's countless storylines that emerge from each game. Totally get the emotional attachment (my t-shirt collection is largely made up of Mets baseball and Devils hockey material), but to me the one game a week thing just means there's nothing to talk about until the next week, or at least what there is ends up being a lot of speculation and whatnot, whereas other sports give you fresh games on a nightly basis. Plus there's the whole roster turnover thing; happens a lot in all sports given salary caps, free agency, etc., but it can be tough to get very attached to a lot of guys on your favorite football team given how quickly they often come and go. All of that said I did just add a new Giants shirt to my collection, so it's not like I don't grasp enjoying the game, just don't grasp the obsession levels. Back on topic, naturally this number is still going around the wrestling-sphere and contributing to all kinds of absurd Twitter hot takes and tribalism...but then, what else could we expect?
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Post by BlahBlah on Aug 15, 2022 12:36:38 GMT -5
The obsession comes from the emotional attachment that millions of fans have with their teams. It's a really personal thing. To your baseball point, I'm a huge baseball fan as well but the 18 weeks of NFL is what makes it more alluring for people because every week is critical. Narratives never have to be cooked up, there's countless storylines that emerge from each game. Totally get the emotional attachment (my t-shirt collection is largely made up of Mets baseball and Devils hockey material), but to me the one game a week thing just means there's nothing to talk about until the next week, or at least what there is ends up being a lot of speculation and whatnot, whereas other sports give you fresh games on a nightly basis. Plus there's the whole roster turnover thing; happens a lot in all sports given salary caps, free agency, etc., but it can be tough to get very attached to a lot of guys on your favorite football team given how quickly they often come and go. All of that said I did just add a new Giants shirt to my collection, so it's not like I don't grasp enjoying the game, just don't grasp the obsession levels. Back on topic, naturally this number is still going around the wrestling-sphere and contributing to all kinds of absurd Twitter hot takes and tribalism...but then, what else could we expect? When you're football obsessed, you generally end up spending a day-two after the game dissecting it and by Wednesday the team gets back to practice and you look ahead to the current week's matchup. Every day becomes it's own individual beast in that sense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 13:37:50 GMT -5
Look Football is great but you're all downplaying what this truly is: Main Event Ludwig bringing in the ratings baby. I expect the number to be higher than yesterday's posting.
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Post by dbrussel on Aug 15, 2022 16:02:34 GMT -5
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 15, 2022 16:13:46 GMT -5
It's interesting that RAW has had a sizable bump the past two weeks with the creative shift but SmackDown hasn't. I think the shift is more visible on the RAW side so far. They need to correct that big time with the draft.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 15, 2022 16:34:09 GMT -5
It's interesting that RAW has had a sizable bump the past two weeks with the creative shift but SmackDown hasn't. I think the shift is more visible on the RAW side so far. They need to correct that big time with the draft. The reason to me is Smackdown's too stagnant. As you said they desperately need a draft Roman and the Usos dominate the show, their undercard isn't amazingly great, Gunther is looking awesome at least, but the women's division? Very big lack of depth there too, and Liv Morgan's storyline has nosedived... and then there's Karrion Kross! Like it's all fixable of course, but Smackdown needs better pacing and new toys on top of the returns we've been seeing, desperately, where RAW's felt more stable, like HHH just has a better idea what to do with that presented roster than Smackdown's, which would make sense to me.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 15, 2022 16:41:16 GMT -5
Do you guys think Vince booked the way he did as a slight on the fans? Like 2014, when the fans kind of forced Daniel Bryan into the WM30 main event. It seemed like after that there was a shift where he went from listening to the fans and making slight changes to just doing what he wanted and saying “f them”. I think Vince was just lazy. Vince only really tried new stuff when he felt he HAD to. WWE will make money no matter what they put on TV. So he could get away with doing the barest minimum. I will die on this hill - Vince was rewriting shows while they were on the air and sleeping 4 hours a night. He was killing himself to make WWE shows what they were. It is part of what is so tragic about their content for years leasing up to the resignation
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 15, 2022 17:25:02 GMT -5
Can a mod edit the op and thread title with the real rating that isn't the highest in two years?
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 15, 2022 19:15:07 GMT -5
It's interesting that RAW has had a sizable bump the past two weeks with the creative shift but SmackDown hasn't. I think the shift is more visible on the RAW side so far. They need to correct that big time with the draft. The reason this week is down is likely the preemptions themselves.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Aug 15, 2022 19:21:45 GMT -5
Pre-empted by Football in a lot of markets, same as last year when the WWE friendly journalists were crowing about 2.7 million in the fast nationals and then suddenly shut up when it was just 2 million.
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