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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 19, 2022 12:46:40 GMT -5
He's not THAT strong all things considered. 10 tons is the canonical (to the extent fiction can even really have a canon) limit. Which is super strong, but on the lower end of Marvel characters. Namor, Iron Man etc would overpower him to say nothing of Thing, Hulk etc.
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Post by schma on Aug 19, 2022 13:02:30 GMT -5
From that strip, why don't the shooters also aim for Superman's penis as much as they aim at Wonder Woman's breasts? They're firing at their chests as that's the largest center of mass.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Aug 19, 2022 13:39:36 GMT -5
He's not THAT strong all things considered. 10 tons is the canonical (to the extent fiction can even really have a canon) limit. Which is super strong, but on the lower end of Marvel characters. Namor, Iron Man etc would overpower him to say nothing of Thing, Hulk etc. But he's beaten the Hulk. It's been a while since I read comics, but isn't the 10 tons just a guess? And he's lifted more?
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 19, 2022 13:57:09 GMT -5
Like Superman, Spidey holds back a lot of his true strength because he doesn't want to kill the bad guys or cause collateral damage that can hurt innocent bystanders.
His super strength is also the least interesting power he has.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 19, 2022 14:08:55 GMT -5
For those that want an example of Spidey...or at least Peter, using his strength outside of just vehicle lifting or something:
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Post by Zombie Mod on Aug 19, 2022 14:11:45 GMT -5
From that strip, why don't the shooters also aim for Superman's penis as much as they aim at Wonder Woman's breasts? one has heat vision, one doesn't. it's on superman for not melting the guns before the jiggle testing began.
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Post by peaches1 on Aug 19, 2022 14:50:51 GMT -5
Spider-man isn't close to being as strong as Thor or the Hulk. He's powerful but as others have said he does tend to pull his punches out of fear of killing someone. Also, for all Spidey's strength he's not bullet-proof or even especially resistant to damage. A lot of non-superpowered martial arts types have been able to put him through his paces.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 19, 2022 16:19:00 GMT -5
He's not THAT strong all things considered. 10 tons is the canonical (to the extent fiction can even really have a canon) limit. Which is super strong, but on the lower end of Marvel characters. Namor, Iron Man etc would overpower him to say nothing of Thing, Hulk etc. But he's beaten the Hulk. It's been a while since I read comics, but isn't the 10 tons just a guess? And he's lifted more? They might have changed it but 10 tons was in thebHandbook at one point Any time he's beaten say Hulk, Juggernaut or whatever it's been about stamina and agility sans the time he has Captain Universe powers
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Aug 19, 2022 16:22:30 GMT -5
But he's beaten the Hulk. It's been a while since I read comics, but isn't the 10 tons just a guess? And he's lifted more? They might have changed it but 10 tons was in thebHandbook at one point Any time he's beaten say Hulk, Juggernaut or whatever it's been about stamina and agility sans the time he has Captain Universe powers Yea, I haven't read comics in a while. I try to keep up, but it's harder to find then now. I usually end up reading synopsis on line. But even then it's been a while.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 19, 2022 16:28:10 GMT -5
Yeah, Spidey at normal strength can't match Hulk or Thor, especially as Hulk's thing (unless it got nerfed recently) is that his strength has no real upper limit. Captain Universe powers are another story.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Aug 19, 2022 16:29:28 GMT -5
From what I understand Peter's greatest feat of Strength is using it and his webs to stop a crashing airliner. Or maybe the plane was taking off I did not read the comic in question, but the point is he was able to stop the plane from moving which puts him in the over 100 ton range at a highball.
Thor on the other hand has moved planets, and the Hulk once shattered an Astroid twice the size of earth with a single punch.
In summery Peter is strong, very strong, but he isn't top tier in the Marvel Universe.
and before anyone mentions Firelord again. That fight was more of an outlier, and an example of plot induced stupidity/popularity power on the Marvel writer's hands. (proof that even in the 80s that s*** was happening.)
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 19, 2022 17:05:25 GMT -5
From that strip, why don't the shooters also aim for Superman's penis as much as they aim at Wonder Woman's breasts? Please don't give Zack Snyder anymore ideas.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Aug 19, 2022 17:10:12 GMT -5
for the record,
so Spider Man just isn't in that league. but it's the combination of his strength, speed/agility, spider sense and most of all his IQ. that makes him a credible threat. the end of No Way Home, where he (all 3 of them) found a way to de-power or cure his villains is a call back to his early year, it was a common tactic of his.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Aug 19, 2022 17:12:31 GMT -5
I think that's the biggest part. Too much of his rogues gallery is more or less regular humans. If he hit Doc Ock or Mysterio with full strength, they would die. Him being a street level hero means he doesn't really have a lot of opportunities to show off that super strength of his, though the opportunities that are presented are nothing to shrug at: besides the iconic train sequence in Spider-Man 2, he effortlessly catches a police car in Amazing Spider-Man 2, and turns an airplane around in mid-air in Spider-Man: Homecoming. Also, his strength just isn't his signature like that, his speed, agility, and flexibility are. Same with Superman and his speed: he's fast enough that people still do the Superman/Flash race thing long since Flash's speed became beyond ridiculous, but we rarely see his speed shown off the same way we see his strength shown off. Why have Superman catch a bullet in mid-air, which he could clearly do easily, when the bullet bouncing off of him just makes for a better visual? The better question is why Wonder Woman bothers to block bullets with her bracelets when she is similarly bulletproof. she's not truly bullet proof, he skin is vulnerable to piercing attacks, like bullets. it's a fairly recent development, i want to say since the new 52.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Aug 19, 2022 19:25:40 GMT -5
To put it in Boxing terms, Thor and The Hulk are Heavyweights with cast iron fists. They're big and hit real hard, but it's expected of them.
Spidey is a Middleweight or Welterweight with a much harder punch then you would expect out of him and still agile on his feet.
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