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Post by schma on Aug 23, 2022 20:54:00 GMT -5
Where is even left for them to go? That's why they're rebooting it. 4 left them nowhere to go so they had to start fresh.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 23, 2022 20:56:36 GMT -5
A reboot was really the only way to go after Gat Out Of Hell. Because after becoming President of the USA and Emperor of an interstellar empire, and you best buddy kicking Satan's ass and taking over Hell itself, what else is there to do?
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Post by schma on Aug 23, 2022 21:06:10 GMT -5
A reboot was really the only way to go after Gat Out Of Hell. Because after becoming President of the USA and Emperor of an interstellar empire, and you best buddy kicking Satan's ass and taking over Hell itself, what else is there to do? Even if Gat out of Hell was treated as a fever dream you still have the whole head of an insterstellar empire with access to a time machine and super powers. How on earth do you make a game or story after that without some incredibly stupid plot device. Even if they somehow stripped them of the empire, the time travel and the super powers, these guys have overcome literally everything thrown at them with relative ease. How could you possibly come up with a challenge that approaches them breaking a sweat?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 23, 2022 21:11:37 GMT -5
Have not been seeing good reviews for this game as shit ton of bugs is a constant complaint. A very deep sale if you do decide to get it and I assume this game will be cheap on PSN in 6 months which is when I will consider it
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Post by Duke Cameron on Aug 24, 2022 0:40:33 GMT -5
Spent $97 preorderering the gold edition of this game and I have no regrets.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 24, 2022 13:36:31 GMT -5
Only ran into one bug so far where I glitched getting onto a motorcycle and enemies got a few free shots on me.
That said something feels off about the shooting in this game that I can't put my finger on.
Also your character feels a little weightless sometimes.
Also maybe cause it's early but I really don't notice a difference in how any of the cars drive
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 24, 2022 15:57:49 GMT -5
A reboot was really the only way to go after Gat Out Of Hell. Because after becoming President of the USA and Emperor of an interstellar empire, and you best buddy kicking Satan's ass and taking over Hell itself, what else is there to do? Even if Gat out of Hell was treated as a fever dream you still have the whole head of an insterstellar empire with access to a time machine and super powers. How on earth do you make a game or story after that without some incredibly stupid plot device. Even if they somehow stripped them of the empire, the time travel and the super powers, these guys have overcome literally everything thrown at them with relative ease. How could you possibly come up with a challenge that approaches them breaking a sweat? I think you can make a story out of it, but it's so far removed from 'gang takes over a city' by that point that it's almost a different franchise. It's an odd situation to be in. They'd stretched so far past the original setting/gameplay that a reboot seemed logical, but on the other hand they'd developed a cast over the games that people really enjoyed. Shame the reviews are mediocre for this one. Perhaps after some intense bug fixes and later content additions, I'll give it a try, but I think I'm fine being finally off the Saints Row bus.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 17:53:43 GMT -5
What I am getting from just watching people talk about this game a large part of the contention is this game rebooted so hard is basically went back to SaintsRow 1.
Which while was the foundation was largely a very slow and bad game with not much to it...but the cast atleast was memorable enough to warrant more games , this one does not even have that apparently.
And I don't agree that there was nothing to do so they had to reboot it...this series is meant to go so far off the f*** rails that is why it had been so loved because it was a game not boxed into just rehashing the same things...became president etc...okay strip the power away , strand them on new planet to eventually take it over and take the saints brand galactic etc there were endless possibilities IMO , hell set the game in a different time period and push the story that the saints has been a thing all through history.
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Post by Hurbster on Aug 24, 2022 17:57:25 GMT -5
One of the endings of Gat out of Hell does in fact reboot the series.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 18:37:58 GMT -5
What I am getting from just watching people talk about this game a large part of the contention is this game rebooted so hard is basically went back to SaintsRow 1. Which while was the foundation was largely a very slow and bad game with not much to it...but the cast atleast was memorable enough to warrant more games , this one does not even have that apparently. And I don't agree that there was nothing to do so they had to reboot it...this series is meant to go so far off the f*** rails that is why it had been so loved because it was a game not boxed into just rehashing the same things...became president etc...okay strip the power away , strand them on new planet to eventually take it over and take the saints brand galactic etc there were endless possibilities IMO , hell set the game in a different time period and push the story that the saints has been a thing all through history. Leading into what could become a parody series and the engine was ripe for it. Its just so bland now.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 24, 2022 18:48:22 GMT -5
I feel like if I was tasked with Saints Row 4 with a direct follow-up what I'd do is have some sort of time distortion thing where everyone's sent back to prehistoric times, so like there are cars and skyscrapers and shit but it's all interspersed with like a jungle aesthetic and in addition to driving around you can ride around dinosaurs and whatever. Have like evil groups of cavemen drug dealers and the like.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 24, 2022 21:07:54 GMT -5
eh I wouldn't say this feels like the Original Saints Row at all.
I eman I'm still pretty early into it and the Saints haven't become the saints yet... but it doesn't feel as generic wanna be GTA but not as good as the first one did.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 24, 2022 21:13:22 GMT -5
I feel like if I was tasked with Saints Row 4 with a direct follow-up what I'd do is have some sort of time distortion thing where everyone's sent back to prehistoric times, so like there are cars and skyscrapers and shit but it's all interspersed with like a jungle aesthetic and in addition to driving around you can ride around dinosaurs and whatever. Have like evil groups of cavemen drug dealers and the like. Saints Row with dinosaurs would be f***ing insane and I'd be all in on that. Just as long as one of the new Saints is a hyper-intelligent velociraptor. You could've even tied that into Enter the Dominatrix because I think that also involved hyper-intelligent velociraptors.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Aug 24, 2022 22:21:28 GMT -5
I really just wanted a game where I could use the time machine to save Lin, Carlos, Aisha and Oleg.
Maybe do a Butterfly Effect kind of thing, where the Boss going back in time and saving the dead Saints messes up the present, and the Saints have to deal with the new timeline.
You could even hypothetically tie in Agents of MAYHEM. Have someone like Pierce or The Boss accidentally leave Zin technology in the past, leading to the rise of super-criminals like LEGION.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 25, 2022 3:11:18 GMT -5
Ultor gets name dropped... then again where I found it was an entire Red Faction reference >_>
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Aug 25, 2022 22:01:30 GMT -5
So, I've been seeing quite a few Volition employees on Twitter spending the last few days posting a lot of memes making fun of the criticism towards the game, and I've gotta say: if y'all had spent this kind of energy on making sure your game worked, rather than "dunking on the haters", maybe your game wouldn't be the lowest rated entry in your franchise.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 25, 2022 22:11:11 GMT -5
Yoooo.
This game f***ing sucks on every possible level. The writing is bad, the gameplay is bad, it looks bad. How could they have messed up this badly.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 25, 2022 22:11:45 GMT -5
the only real issues I've had in this game... is that like literally none of the takedown moves animate correctly
I think I've had like two that actually lined up correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2022 22:15:36 GMT -5
Crazy how much more fun a trailer is than the entirety of a game.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Aug 25, 2022 22:19:55 GMT -5
So, I've been seeing quite a few Volition employees on Twitter spending the last few days posting a lot of memes making fun of the criticism towards the game, and I've gotta say: if y'all had spent this kind of energy on making sure your game worked, rather than "dunking on the haters", maybe your game wouldn't be the lowest rated entry in your franchise. To be fair, most of the haters deserve to be hated on. Players were being completely unreasonable with demands as soon as the game got announced. It’s not the developers fault that a lot of the fan base is stuck in the past and can’t get past Saints Row 1 & 2 and refuse to play any other game in the franchise if it isn’t exactly like those two.
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