Eddie Kingston/Sammy Guevara altercation thread

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Aug 25, 2022 18:14:36 GMT -5 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger said:

Aug 25, 2022 17:59:31 GMT -5 Gawk Rivers said:

Sammy Guevara was an over Babyface less than a year ago to the point where ppl didn't care that he needed his dumbass friend's help to beat Miro and that's hilarious to think about.

Dude's fallen off absurdly hard.

It’s crazy the things that make wrestlers fall off.

Oh you said you wanna rape a woman you met once? Tut tut young man. Sit in the corner for a week and then we’ll push you harder than ever before. But I swear to god if you do a bargain basement Edge and Lita gimmick with your girlfriend, you’re finished.

I still stand by the fact that back then I think Sammy had leeway to be forgiven and be given a second chance. He said something really dumb, he spoke with Sasha about it, and the podcast that placated it were a bunch of assholes themselves who only released it to essentially blackmail Sammy in the first place.

However, the issue is, he isn't showing growth as a person at all since then and has taken steps backwards. So suddenly your one mistake is just ballooning into you being the asshole everyone thought you were when you first made those comments

Shit has a way of coming back to bite you when you don't keep your nose clean, not only do you get grilled for your current dumbassery, but your past gets added on as collateral. Sammy's definitely got no one to blame but himself for this, all he literally had to do... was nothing, lmfao.

[The Captain]

It's funny how I used to like, really enjoy his work. Now I can't stand him. Not only does it feel like he's regressed in the ring, but he's a complete asshole, too.

Normally I'd say "you don't want to hand someone that good to WWE," but might as well just cut loose. His problems are known (especially to Sasha Banks), so they reap what they sow if they do want to bring him in. I don't even know if he could do the Impact Redemption Run because of him supposedly nixing himself from any cross-promotional involvement when Impact and AEW were working together.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

In retrospect it kinda sucks that Sammy was Cody's last feud, like Sammy is the one Cody put over on his way out. Because Sammy has done quite literally nothing with that momentum, at this point he might have negative momentum.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

I said earlier didn't have benefit of doubt to be able to work off of but if I was him after I saw that statement i'd be pretty ready to smack the dog shit out of him again

I take the blame and you still dog me out. Nah, you got me twisted

[Final Countdown Jones]

Aug 25, 2022 18:54:11 GMT -5 The Captain said:

It's funny how I used to like, really enjoy his work. Now I can't stand him. Not only does it feel like he's regressed in the ring, but he's a complete asshole, too.

Normally I'd say "you don't want to hand someone that good to WWE," but might as well just cut loose. His problems are known (especially to Sasha Banks), so they reap what they sow if they do want to bring him in. I don't even know if he could do the Impact Redemption Run because of him supposedly nixing himself from any cross-promotional involvement when Impact and AEW were working together.

It would be kind of crazy if he managed to Low Ki himself out of all three top promotions in the country by only ever working for one. I doubt WWE passes on the guy solely over the Sasha comments, but it's not impossible, and he could definitely end up with a cold response from Impact after he basically ended up being the death of the AEW partnership until Christian showed up.

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

Aug 25, 2022 18:59:37 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

I said earlier didn't have benefit of doubt to be able to work off of but if I was him after I saw that statement i'd be pretty ready to smack the dog shit out of him again

I take the blame and you still dog me out. Nah, you got me twisted

It’s actually really really appalling to me. Because you can’t spin that as him playing a heel jackass. Talking about how he would be a good heel to lose to Kingston at the ppv and shit.

Then he’s throwing Eddie under the bus. Ooooooh man. Ooooh man. These kind of people get me f***ed up.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Aug 25, 2022 19:02:25 GMT -5 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger said:

Aug 25, 2022 18:59:37 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

I said earlier didn't have benefit of doubt to be able to work off of but if I was him after I saw that statement i'd be pretty ready to smack the dog shit out of him again

I take the blame and you still dog me out. Nah, you got me twisted

It’s actually really really appalling to me. Because you can’t spin that as him playing a heel jackass. Talking about how he would be a good heel to lose to Kingston at the ppv and shit.

Then he’s throwing Eddie under the bus. Ooooooh man. Ooooh man. These kind of people get me f***ed up.

Whoever told Guevara to release that statement needs to be smacked in the face

And if Guevara did it on his own? Find a mirror and slap yourself you dumbass lmfao

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 25, 2022 19:02:25 GMT -5 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger said:

Aug 25, 2022 18:59:37 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

I said earlier didn't have benefit of doubt to be able to work off of but if I was him after I saw that statement i'd be pretty ready to smack the dog shit out of him again

I take the blame and you still dog me out. Nah, you got me twisted

It’s actually really really appalling to me. Because you can’t spin that as him playing a heel jackass. Talking about how he would be a good heel to lose to Kingston at the ppv and shit.

Then he’s throwing Eddie under the bus. Ooooooh man. Ooooh man. These kind of people get me f***ed up.

Eddie said he f***ed up and you leave it at that. To say I was being a heel and well we all know he is mentally f***ed up and has problems, using his old rep against him to make it seem like you did nothing wrong is bad 

Like nah, Eddie was wrong and still going have his f** ups. But Sammy opening his mouth will probably make the most mild mannered person want to smack him. Eddie being from NY I already know what he is thinking, if I was going get suspended I should had whooped his ass and give him something to cry about and give him a reason to talk shit 

Like that is some real some hoe shit from Sammy. 

[The Captain]

Aug 25, 2022 19:00:14 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Aug 25, 2022 18:54:11 GMT -5 The Captain said:

It's funny how I used to like, really enjoy his work. Now I can't stand him. Not only does it feel like he's regressed in the ring, but he's a complete asshole, too.

Normally I'd say "you don't want to hand someone that good to WWE," but might as well just cut loose. His problems are known (especially to Sasha Banks), so they reap what they sow if they do want to bring him in. I don't even know if he could do the Impact Redemption Run because of him supposedly nixing himself from any cross-promotional involvement when Impact and AEW were working together.

It would be kind of crazy if he managed to Low Ki himself out of all three top promotions in the country by only ever working for one. I doubt WWE passes on the guy solely over the Sasha comments, but it's not impossible, and he could definitely end up with a cold response from Impact after he basically ended up being the death of the AEW partnership until Christian showed up.

If it was just the Sasha stuff and he showed some growth and maturity since then, then yeah, WWE would be foolish to pass him up unless Sasha gave them a hard "you hire this guy and I'm gone" ultimatum about it (justifiably so, mind you). But it's that and well, everything since.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Aug 25, 2022 12:14:06 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

Aug 25, 2022 12:07:59 GMT -5 Fade said:

Or Garcia.

Or Ricky Starks!

Ay, I’m not trying to be funny.

Ricky Starks? Rock in 98. Like, straight up, it don’t matter what you think of dude, his come up is so obvious and so inevitable that once he really gets going, game finished.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Aug 25, 2022 18:59:37 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

I said earlier didn't have benefit of doubt to be able to work off of but if I was him after I saw that statement i'd be pretty ready to smack the dog shit out of him again

I take the blame and you still dog me out. Nah, you got me twisted

It's such a shithead punk move. Eddie lay down and took the bullet after what happened as hard and as maturely as anyone could, basically left Sammy without the need to say anything because Eddie played it as professional. That shit? That's when some brat on the schoolyard provokes a fight, then when the teacher breaks it up and scolds only the one they saw take the swing, hides behind them going "Yeah, fighting is bad!" like they didn't knowingly instigate that shit in the first place. Except it's a dude who's pushing goddamn thirty pulling that move. Dude I guess thought there wasn't enough heat on Eddie and needed to turn the dial up, and in the process threw Eddie's maturity in the aftermath right back in his face and proved he's the smaller man. Literally the worst type of guy. I'll take the dude who gets too hot for his own good and needs to go cool off somewhere but then cops to what he did over this bullshit any day. You can trust the apologetic hothead. You cant' trust a snake like this.

[Jindrak Mark]

Aug 25, 2022 18:53:58 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Aug 25, 2022 18:14:36 GMT -5 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger said:

It’s crazy the things that make wrestlers fall off.

Oh you said you wanna rape a woman you met once? Tut tut young man. Sit in the corner for a week and then we’ll push you harder than ever before. But I swear to god if you do a bargain basement Edge and Lita gimmick with your girlfriend, you’re finished.

I still stand by the fact that back then I think Sammy had leeway to be forgiven and be given a second chance.

Am I the only one who remembers that literally later on in the same day he apologized he was liking tweets from fans on Twitter saying political correctness has gone too far, it's bullshit that people can't take a joke, he shouldn't have to apologize and stuff of that ilk? If that's how he really felt then it suggests his public apology was a bullshit PR gesture the company probably forced him to do.

I remember the defence at the time was "it's easy to accidentally like a tweet while you're scrolling" but the tone of all the ones he just happened to be hitting sure didn't seem to be coincidental or accidental.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

And oh yeah, f*** all this corporate stuff, I’d HAVE to see Sammy with the hands after that response. Boy, you lost yo damn mind?? Imma help you find it real quick

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 25, 2022 19:11:03 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Aug 25, 2022 18:59:37 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

I said earlier didn't have benefit of doubt to be able to work off of but if I was him after I saw that statement i'd be pretty ready to smack the dog shit out of him again

I take the blame and you still dog me out. Nah, you got me twisted

It's such a shithead punk move. Eddie lay down and took the bullet after what happened as hard and as maturely as anyone could, basically left Sammy without the need to say anything because Eddie played it as professional. That shit? That's when some brat on the schoolyard provokes a fight, then when the teacher breaks it up and scolds only the one they saw take the swing, hides behind them going "Yeah, fighting is bad!" like they didn't knowingly instigate that shit in the first place. Except it's a dude who's pushing goddamn thirty pulling that move. Dude I guess thought there wasn't enough heat on Eddie and needed to turn the dial up, and in the process threw Eddie's maturity in the aftermath right back in his face and proved he's the smaller man. Literally the worst type of guy. I'll take the dude who gets too hot for his own good and needs to go cool off somewhere but then cops to what he did over this bullshit any day. You can trust the apologetic hothead. You cant' trust a snake like this.

Eddie isn't a bullshitter. He can be crazy and an asshole but I can respect that in a way since you know if it comes down to it, dude will talk shit your face 

Sammy. He's on some little kid shit. Run and tell like you did nothing wrong. You are a grown man, accept responsibility. All that trying to put blame on someone else even if it was Eddie fault ain't it. I don't know what respect he thinks people going have for him when he do shit like this 

[Heartbreaker]

If only pro wrestling on TV was as interesting as the backstage drama. I'd probably actually watch it.

[The Captain]

Aug 25, 2022 19:12:47 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

And oh yeah, f*** all this corporate stuff, I’d HAVE to see Sammy with the hands after that response. Boy, you lost yo damn mind?? Imma help you find it real quick

Eddie Kingston should show Sammy how they do in Yonkers.

[Deleted]

Sammy Guevara is basically everything I hate in my wrestling.

Shit selling

Extreme lack of psychology

Zero gimmick or character

Looks like every other skinny indy spot monkey with his trunks and kick pads.

Just miss me with all of it.

[canceled4truth]

Man, I've never gone from "let's see what all the fuss is about" to "oh my God get this f***ing prick off my TV" with a wrestler as fast as Sammy, and that was before all this.

[chrom]

It's time to cut him loose

[lionheart21]

Aug 25, 2022 19:24:25 GMT -5 canceled4truth said:

Man, I've never gone from "let's see what all the fuss is about" to "oh my God get this f***ing prick off my TV" with a wrestler as fast as Sammy, and that was before all this.

I was one of the people last year that felt that Sammy could have a great run as a babyface. Talk about a mindset that hasn't aged very well.