Eddie Kingston/Sammy Guevara altercation thread

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Aug 25, 2022 20:15:43 GMT -5 Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby said:

Aug 25, 2022 20:04:50 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Honestly this is just such an unnecessary self-own. If you must say something just put out a brief, like, "I recognize I crossed a line, I was wrong. I accept Kingston's apology and apologize as well," bam, done. But no, has to go trying to defend himself when he wasn't really seen as especially in the wrong on the subject beforehand to begin with.

It really gives the impression that the "nobody wants to work with him" part is true and something he feels ready to flip out about at the drop of a hat.

Friendly reminder that he also big leagued Impact and didn't wanna work with people like Black Taurus who frankly, is now doing way better than Guevara is

Also LOL on his statement THEN being "We really shouldn't be talking about this and it shouldn't be public"

"I think it got blown way out of proportion," Guevara said. "Basically, some stuff was presented to me, I didn't feel like it worked for me and for what Sammy Guevara is, so I declined that. Then they declined to want to use me or whatnot. So that it's totally fine. It was amicable, almost of the just us agreeing like, 'Ok, this is business. Maybe we'll work something out in the future'. Then all of a sudden, it wound up on the dirt sheets, and it blew up.



"I wish you could have stayed close to the vest," he continued. "I felt like it wasn't necessary for any of this to become public knowledge because it was done behind doors. So why are we opening the doors for everyone to see? But it is what it is. You can't change what we can't change. I wish Impact nothing but the best. I've said that many times

Like what a hypocritical statement now lmfao

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

Aug 25, 2022 21:02:29 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Aug 25, 2022 20:15:43 GMT -5 Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby said:

It really gives the impression that the "nobody wants to work with him" part is true and something he feels ready to flip out about at the drop of a hat.

Friendly reminder that he also big leagued Impact and didn't wanna work with people like Black Taurus who frankly, is now doing way better than Guevara is

Also LOL on his statement THEN being "We really shouldn't be talking about this and it shouldn't be public"

"I think it got blown way out of proportion," Guevara said. "Basically, some stuff was presented to me, I didn't feel like it worked for me and for what Sammy Guevara is, so I declined that. Then they declined to want to use me or whatnot. So that it's totally fine. It was amicable, almost of the just us agreeing like, 'Ok, this is business. Maybe we'll work something out in the future'. Then all of a sudden, it wound up on the dirt sheets, and it blew up.



"I wish you could have stayed close to the vest," he continued. "I felt like it wasn't necessary for any of this to become public knowledge because it was done behind doors. So why are we opening the doors for everyone to see? But it is what it is. You can't change what we can't change. I wish Impact nothing but the best. I've said that many times

Like what a hypocritical statement now lmfao

We have officially, I think, FINALLY found the thing that can unite FAN. Even when the DMDark times return we can ALWAYS collectively come together and dunk all over Sammy like he’s Fredrick Weis and we’re Vince Carter.

And if that specific basketball reference flies over your head (HA!) then head to you tube and search; “Vince Carter Frederick Weis Olympics” (bet you won’t even have to fully type it out before auto fill finishes it for you 😂)

EDIT;
NBC Sports literally named it “The Dunk of Death” which is sooo fitting on multiple levels

[IgnahtaSempria]

The thing that stands out to me about that statement is Sammy basically blaming Eddie for not preemptively banning fat jokes like he did comments about his ex.

If you're gonna make personal comments about your opponents in a promo, you NEED to clear that with them ahead of time.

Like, look at MJF's promo about the Pillman family. Dude said some vile shit about them, but the Pillmans were front row centre, laughing and playing along. So clearly Max went to them ahead of time, and either told them exactly what he was gonna say, or at least told them "hey, I'm gonna say some shit, please don't take it personally".

"Kayfabe" does not absolve you of being a dick.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Aug 25, 2022 20:51:32 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Aug 25, 2022 20:37:22 GMT -5 Hypnosis said:

Multiple segments between Final Deletion.  That was hell.

Back to Kingston: His Impact run was bizarre.

His Impact run was all over the place. I think he was on his way to NXT but went to Impact (I think he was dating Mia Yim at the time) as they basically only signed him cause he was about to go there. Despite the fact he spent years damn near begging for a job 

Does nothing of consequence, comes back as King for LAX which was fun until Konnan killed him after a street fight (I didn't f***ing stutter) and then he comes back to do DCC with Bram and Storm and that went nowhere

Woah, there is something very much missing in this description of Eddie's Impact run. You can't talk about Eddie Kingston in LAX without mentioning that he committed vehicular homicide on a pre-teen child that one time.

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

Aug 25, 2022 21:25:14 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

Aug 25, 2022 20:51:32 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

His Impact run was all over the place. I think he was on his way to NXT but went to Impact (I think he was dating Mia Yim at the time) as they basically only signed him cause he was about to go there. Despite the fact he spent years damn near begging for a job 

Does nothing of consequence, comes back as King for LAX which was fun until Konnan killed him after a street fight (I didn't f***ing stutter) and then he comes back to do DCC with Bram and Storm and that went nowhere

Woah, there is something very much missing in this description of Eddie's Impact run. You can't talk about Eddie Kingston in LAX without mentioning that he committed vehicular homicide on a pre-teen child that one time.

It’s Eddie, you could tell me that was a shoot and not an angle and I’d believe you for at least a minute or two…

[MrElijah]

Aug 25, 2022 21:25:14 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

Aug 25, 2022 20:51:32 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

His Impact run was all over the place. I think he was on his way to NXT but went to Impact (I think he was dating Mia Yim at the time) as they basically only signed him cause he was about to go there. Despite the fact he spent years damn near begging for a job 

Does nothing of consequence, comes back as King for LAX which was fun until Konnan killed him after a street fight (I didn't f***ing stutter) and then he comes back to do DCC with Bram and Storm and that went nowhere

Woah, there is something very much missing in this description of Eddie's Impact run. You can't talk about Eddie Kingston in LAX without mentioning that he committed vehicular homicide on a pre-teen child that one time.

TNA: WE ARE MURDER

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 25, 2022 21:25:14 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

Aug 25, 2022 20:51:32 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

His Impact run was all over the place. I think he was on his way to NXT but went to Impact (I think he was dating Mia Yim at the time) as they basically only signed him cause he was about to go there. Despite the fact he spent years damn near begging for a job 

Does nothing of consequence, comes back as King for LAX which was fun until Konnan killed him after a street fight (I didn't f***ing stutter) and then he comes back to do DCC with Bram and Storm and that went nowhere

Woah, there is something very much missing in this description of Eddie's Impact run. You can't talk about Eddie Kingston in LAX without mentioning that he committed vehicular homicide on a pre-teen child that one time.

So, do we still talk about when James Storm threw Mickie James in front of a moving train ?

[Mozenrath]

Aug 25, 2022 21:32:09 GMT -5 MrElijah said:

Aug 25, 2022 21:25:14 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

Woah, there is something very much missing in this description of Eddie's Impact run. You can't talk about Eddie Kingston in LAX without mentioning that he committed vehicular homicide on a pre-teen child that one time.

TNA: WE ARE MURDER

I choose to read this to the tune of the WE ARE FARMERS jingle.
Bum-dudda-bum-dudda-bum-bum-bum

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

We’re 15 pages in and I have to ask…

Is anyone shocked, even if only low key, that Eddie ONLY tried to pie face Sammy?

I mean, dude looks a little TOO comfortable covered in blood while carrying a gas can and a lighter to attempt a murder by immolation live on PPV, ya feel me?

[Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED!]

I mean Sammy was in undoubtedly one of the worst feuds in AEW history recently, which took multiple acts which were over at the time and killed the interest of the entire fanbase in everybody involved.

Like by the end of that feud Sammy had go away heat from everybody, Scorpio Sky went from "finally finding his footing as a jackass heel with no self awareness" to "Blander than dry plain oatmeal", and everybody was just begging Ethan Page to leave this dumpster fire behind (which he did).

Was all of that Sammy's fault? No not really but the fact of the matter is he never gave the fans a reason to feel like they should care, since he clearly didn't care. In fact upon losing a match which ensured that he couldn't challenge for the TNT title he just tweeted about how he was "glad it was over" even though he LOST THE FEUD!

So yeah I can see people not wanting to work with him.

[Gawk Rivers]

Aug 25, 2022 21:25:14 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

Aug 25, 2022 20:51:32 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

His Impact run was all over the place. I think he was on his way to NXT but went to Impact (I think he was dating Mia Yim at the time) as they basically only signed him cause he was about to go there. Despite the fact he spent years damn near begging for a job 

Does nothing of consequence, comes back as King for LAX which was fun until Konnan killed him after a street fight (I didn't f***ing stutter) and then he comes back to do DCC with Bram and Storm and that went nowhere

Woah, there is something very much missing in this description of Eddie's Impact run. You can't talk about Eddie Kingston in LAX without mentioning that he committed vehicular homicide on a pre-teen child that one time.

Oh my god what was the kid's name Santana f***ing screams it out at the end holding him in his arms 

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 25, 2022 21:38:52 GMT -5 Gawk Rivers said:

Aug 25, 2022 21:25:14 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

Woah, there is something very much missing in this description of Eddie's Impact run. You can't talk about Eddie Kingston in LAX without mentioning that he committed vehicular homicide on a pre-teen child that one time.

Oh my god what was the kid's name Santana f***ing screams it out at the end holding him in his arms 

[MrElijah]

Aug 25, 2022 21:47:24 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Aug 25, 2022 21:38:52 GMT -5 Gawk Rivers said:

Oh my god what was the kid's name Santana f***ing screams it out at the end holding him in his arms 

Meh. It's no "RICKY" from Boyz n the Hood.

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I’m all for cutting Sammy and signing either Dragon Lee/Vikingo. Both have way more upside.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

“Don’t judge a book by its cover” doesn’t apply to Sammy.


He’s as much of a douche as he looks.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Aug 25, 2022 22:03:47 GMT -5 @bagins said:

I’m all for cutting Sammy and signing either Dragon Lee/Vikingo. Both have way more upside.

By all accounts it sounds like Konosuke Takeshita is going to sign with AEW soon, he wants to make a living wrestling in the US and does not want to sign with WWE

I'd consider that a good exchange if Sammy got fired and Takeshita got hired. At this point I think Takeshita's trajectory is much higher, and probably is a million times less a headache.

[Convoy]

Aug 25, 2022 21:35:06 GMT -5 ASYLUMHAUSEN said:

We’re 15 pages in and I have to ask…

Is anyone shocked, even if only low key, that Eddie ONLY tried to pie face Sammy?

I mean, dude looks a little TOO comfortable covered in blood while carrying a gas can and a lighter to attempt a murder by immolation live on PPV, ya feel me?

#Growth

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Aug 25, 2022 22:36:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Aug 25, 2022 22:03:47 GMT -5 @bagins said:

I’m all for cutting Sammy and signing either Dragon Lee/Vikingo. Both have way more upside.

By all accounts it sounds like Konosuke Takeshita is going to sign with AEW soon, he wants to make a living wrestling in the US and does not want to sign with WWE

I'd consider that a good exchange if Sammy got fired and Takeshita got hired. At this point I think Takeshita's trajectory is much higher, and probably is a million times less a headache.

Takeshita certainly has all the upside in the world, and if he moves to the US it’s a question of when not if for him holding the World Title.

Regardless of who could be slotted into Sammy’s spot (hell you could even argue someone on the roster like Lee Johnson). Him being 30, having the roster not wanting to work with him, and this whole Eddie thing makes me think of a lot of really good wrestlers who would love to have the opportunities he has had.

[Saiyanic Panic]

Aug 25, 2022 22:36:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Aug 25, 2022 22:03:47 GMT -5 @bagins said:

I’m all for cutting Sammy and signing either Dragon Lee/Vikingo. Both have way more upside.

By all accounts it sounds like Konosuke Takeshita is going to sign with AEW soon, he wants to make a living wrestling in the US and does not want to sign with WWE

I'd consider that a good exchange if Sammy got fired and Takeshita got hired. At this point I think Takeshita's trajectory is much higher, and probably is a million times less a headache.

Yep. Long odds on pie-faces for Takeshita. High chance of Cinnabons.

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

Aug 25, 2022 23:05:44 GMT -5 Saiyanic Panic said:

Aug 25, 2022 22:36:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

By all accounts it sounds like Konosuke Takeshita is going to sign with AEW soon, he wants to make a living wrestling in the US and does not want to sign with WWE

I'd consider that a good exchange if Sammy got fired and Takeshita got hired. At this point I think Takeshita's trajectory is much higher, and probably is a million times less a headache.

Yep. Long odds on pie-faces for Takeshita. High chance of Cinnabons.

You leave Gene Takovic out of this.

My dudes got enough on his plate to deal with at the moment.