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Post by pinja on Aug 26, 2022 12:31:16 GMT -5
Disco Campfire: "Bro, it's the indie mindset internet smart crowd leftists who can't handle a different opinion. Back when we were wrestling everyone was over and had good fun watching the Steiners covering me in duct tape. Would you agree with that Konnan?" Konnan: "What?"
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Post by ghost on Aug 26, 2022 12:36:47 GMT -5
Sammy Guevara is basically everything I hate in my wrestling. Shit selling Extreme lack of psychology Zero gimmick or character Looks like every other skinny indy spot monkey with his trunks and kick pads. Just miss me with all of it. I've felt this way for years and always felt like I was on an island by myself given how live crowds were reacting to him. He's literally the worst kind of wrestler there is, for all the reasons you mentioned, and on top of that he can't even be a normal dudebro and say he wants to "bang" a hot girl, he has to use the word "rape". So as bad as he is as a wrestler, he seems equally as immature and douchey as a person. Tony Khan not recognizing guys like Starks, Hobbs, etc, but giving this guy not only TV time but big wins and titles is insane to me. Listen to one Starks promo and compare it to 3 years of Sammy's AEW run, and even a non fan would be able to tell you which one comes off like the bigger star. Crazy to me that Tony can't see that.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Aug 26, 2022 12:54:21 GMT -5
How can Eddie be in the wrong in the situation, ADMIT he's in the wrong, and Sammy is still the one who looks like an asshole? It's quite a talent, really. Honesty and self awareness go a long way in situations like these. Eddie for his part has owned that he did a dumb thing, has never made any attempt to justify himself no matter what the provocation was, and has even some to Sammy's defense. Sammy meanwhile has taken the time to throw a man who already took full responsibility for his mistakes under the bus.
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Post by markymark on Aug 26, 2022 13:22:24 GMT -5
Sammy, telling a story? Since when?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 13:24:38 GMT -5
Sammy, telling a story? Since when?
There's something at least one fan will enjoy. There's also Sammy Guevara.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Aug 26, 2022 13:26:51 GMT -5
Sammy, telling a story? Since when?
the f*** is this Panda Head summbitch even on about? Targeted Trending Posts on Twitter aint a good look for you right now, my guy. Maybe put the phone down for a minute...go hang out with your hot wife or something. Christ.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 26, 2022 13:29:23 GMT -5
Maybe by "there's not one way to tell a story" he means there is no way for him to tell a story?
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Aug 26, 2022 13:30:34 GMT -5
I just thought of something that hadn't occured to me until just now...
This Panda Headed Chucklef***'s bullshit may very well have cost me the chance to see Eddie in person back on the 17th in some capacity.
This...this angers me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 13:31:23 GMT -5
Sammy Guevara is basically everything I hate in my wrestling. Shit selling Extreme lack of psychology Zero gimmick or character Looks like every other skinny indy spot monkey with his trunks and kick pads. Just miss me with all of it. I've felt this way for years and always felt like I was on an island by myself given how live crowds were reacting to him. He's literally the worst kind of wrestler there is, for all the reasons you mentioned, and on top of that he can't even be a normal dudebro and say he wants to "bang" a hot girl, he has to use the word "rape". So as bad as he is as a wrestler, he seems equally as immature and douchey as a person. Tony Khan not recognizing guys like Starks, Hobbs, etc, but giving this guy not only TV time but big wins and titles is insane to me. Listen to one Starks promo and compare it to 3 years of Sammy's AEW run, and even a non fan would be able to tell you which one comes off like the bigger star. Crazy to me that Tony can't see that. Sammy's whole presentation only works as a heel and the guy can only wrestle as a babyface. Which makes him suck at being either. The Sammy feud should have happened before the Jericho one. This just makes Eddie look like he can't win any major feuds and has to now fight the minions. Anyways... If this was an Am I the Asshole thread on Reddit. This would be ESH. Everyone sucks here.
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 26, 2022 13:31:26 GMT -5
Sammy, go hang out by the pool with Tay or something.
Just put the phone down please.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 26, 2022 13:32:55 GMT -5
Sammy Guevara is basically everything I hate in my wrestling. Shit selling Extreme lack of psychology Zero gimmick or character Looks like every other skinny indy spot monkey with his trunks and kick pads. Just miss me with all of it. I've felt this way for years and always felt like I was on an island by myself given how live crowds were reacting to him. He's literally the worst kind of wrestler there is, for all the reasons you mentioned, and on top of that he can't even be a normal dudebro and say he wants to "bang" a hot girl, he has to use the word "rape". So as bad as he is as a wrestler, he seems equally as immature and douchey as a person. Tony Khan not recognizing guys like Starks, Hobbs, etc, but giving this guy not only TV time but big wins and titles is insane to me. Listen to one Starks promo and compare it to 3 years of Sammy's AEW run, and even a non fan would be able to tell you which one comes off like the bigger star. Crazy to me that Tony can't see that. The over the top spots will always get a pop. Problem is that when the novelty wears off, it exposes everything else. Like their detractors call them spot monkeys, but the Young Bucks have great understanding of in-ring storytelling, selling, and ring psychology. They just work at a very fast pace. But Sammy? He's the textbook definition of a spot monkey.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Aug 26, 2022 13:35:15 GMT -5
I've felt this way for years and always felt like I was on an island by myself given how live crowds were reacting to him. He's literally the worst kind of wrestler there is, for all the reasons you mentioned, and on top of that he can't even be a normal dudebro and say he wants to "bang" a hot girl, he has to use the word "rape". So as bad as he is as a wrestler, he seems equally as immature and douchey as a person. Tony Khan not recognizing guys like Starks, Hobbs, etc, but giving this guy not only TV time but big wins and titles is insane to me. Listen to one Starks promo and compare it to 3 years of Sammy's AEW run, and even a non fan would be able to tell you which one comes off like the bigger star. Crazy to me that Tony can't see that. The over the top spots will always get a pop. Problem is that when the novelty wears off, it exposes everything else. Like their detractors call them spot monkeys, but the Young Bucks have great understanding of in-ring storytelling, selling, and ring psychology. They just work at a very fast pace. But Sammy? He's the textbook definition of a spot monkey. I'd make a joke about him needed CURED of his ADEEEEEEEEEEEEC-CHUN....but Matt and Sammy don't need to be allowed to work together ever again soooo, out the window with THAT idea.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 26, 2022 13:52:22 GMT -5
There's all the great AEW Talent, and then there's... Sammy!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 14:04:14 GMT -5
I like Sammy as a wrestler but, looking at him objectively, there's nothing about him that isn't already covered by someone else on the roster.
He's super athletic, but so's Dante Martin. He does crazy, borderline-reckless high spots, but so does Darby Allin. He's not a bad-looking guy, but neither is Jungle Boy. He's got a gorgeous wife as a valet, but so does The Blade.
And so on. In retrospect the only real reason to have moved forward with the idea of him as a company pillar was his connection with the crowd, and that died a death months ago.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Aug 26, 2022 14:06:00 GMT -5
If that’s the statement Sammy decided to go with after the reported meeting with AEW brass, then it’s time to cut him loose. He doesn’t get it.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 26, 2022 14:11:35 GMT -5
I like Sammy as a wrestler but, looking at him objectively, there's nothing about him that isn't already covered by someone else on the roster. He's super athletic, but so's Dante Martin. He does crazy, borderline-reckless high spots, but so does Darby Allin. He's not a bad-looking guy, but neither is Jungle Boy. He's got a gorgeous wife as a valet, but so does The Blade. And so on. In retrospect the only real reason to have moved forward with the idea of him as a company pillar was his connection with the crowd, and that died a death months ago. And all those guys have way more upside than Sammy (from a purely in-ring standpoint) . Dante is incredibly young and has his entire career ahead of him to hone his craft. Darby has a great mind for in-ring storytelling and is also a deceptively good technical wrestler. Jungle Boy is a baby face that fans really like and also a much better wrestler in a lot of the little ways. The Blade is a veteran who can make anyone else look good.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Aug 26, 2022 14:29:18 GMT -5
I like Sammy as a wrestler but, looking at him objectively, there's nothing about him that isn't already covered by someone else on the roster. He's super athletic, but so's Dante Martin. He does crazy, borderline-reckless high spots, but so does Darby Allin. He's not a bad-looking guy, but neither is Jungle Boy. He's got a gorgeous wife as a valet, but so does The Blade. And so on. In retrospect the only real reason to have moved forward with the idea of him as a company pillar was his connection with the crowd, and that died a death months ago. And all those guys have way more upside than Sammy (from a purely in-ring standpoint) . Dante is incredibly young and has his entire career ahead of him to hone his craft. Darby has a great mind for in-ring storytelling and is also a deceptively good technical wrestler. Jungle Boy is a baby face that fans really like and also a much better wrestler in a lot of the little ways. The Blade is a veteran who can make anyone else look good. Also Dante is extremely likeable, but likely could play a heel. Darby is actually GREAT at selling. Everything he takes looks like it hurts like hell, and he sells it as such (Also much of it does actually hurt)
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Post by cassonova on Aug 26, 2022 14:29:46 GMT -5
I just want to chime in that I too, dislike Sammy Guevara.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 26, 2022 14:40:56 GMT -5
"There's not one way to tell a story" is what I say when the cops arrest me for carving passages from my Voltron fanfiction into cars down my street so that anyone walking by will get an "interactive media experience" on their trip home from work.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 26, 2022 14:50:30 GMT -5
"There's not one way to tell a story" is what I say when the cops arrest me for carving passages from my Voltron fanfiction into cars down my street so that anyone walking by will get an "interactive media experience" on their trip home from work. Maybe carve the plot a bit less fetishistic next time?
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