Punk's media scrum, Page 54, Muffins, Biting People Bad™

[Allie Kitsune]

Nov 21, 2022 19:51:58 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

Nov 21, 2022 19:45:33 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

So, these are my opinions.

Phil (or more likely his lawyer) will now be rubbing his hands together

Over what? You can't sue anyone over a live crowd deciding to shit on you completely of their own volition. You'd be laughed out of court if you tried.

People also seem to ignore that he tried to leverage them out of their place at Tony's side so he could insert himself instead.

[jm]

Nov 21, 2022 19:45:33 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

So, these are my opinions.

The EVPs of the company should not be promoting chants like that

How exactly are the Elite "promoting" the chant? They just showed the crowd chanting it. And also, they never told the crowd to chant it in the first place even.
My goodness, I was kidding when I made the term Elite Derangement Syndrome. But as time goes on, it really is a thing.

[The Captain]

"New Jersey was mean to me, Your Honor " is not the legal slam dunk you think it is.

[Deleted]

Nov 21, 2022 20:03:02 GMT -5 jm said:

Nov 21, 2022 19:45:33 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

So, these are my opinions.

The EVPs of the company should not be promoting chants like that

How exactly are the Elite "promoting" the chant? They just showed the crowd chanting it. And also, they never told the crowd to chant it in the first place even.
My goodness, I was kidding when I made the term Elite Derangement Syndrome. But as time goes on, it really is a thing.

Kyrie Irving was suspended from the NBA and lost sponsorships for tweeting a link to an antisemitic video (and rightfully so). It is taken as promoting your agenda in today's world when you bring attention to anything.

[The Captain]

Oh my god.

[Final Countdown Jones]

[ChitownKnight]

Nov 21, 2022 20:09:56 GMT -5 slickrickstyles said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:03:02 GMT -5 jm said:

How exactly are the Elite "promoting" the chant? They just showed the crowd chanting it. And also, they never told the crowd to chant it in the first place even.
My goodness, I was kidding when I made the term Elite Derangement Syndrome. But as time goes on, it really is a thing.

Kyrie Irving was suspended from the NBA and lost sponsorships for tweeting a link to an antisemitic video (and rightfully so). It is taken as promoting your agenda in today's world when you bring attention to anything.

Bro your reaching lol. I like CM Punk and I want him back at some point, but there is a difference between posting an anti-Semitic video and posting fans chanting “f***” the guy that put you on blast for something that may or may not have happened and assaulted you

[Final Countdown Jones]

Nov 21, 2022 19:51:58 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

Nov 21, 2022 19:45:33 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

So, these are my opinions.

Phil (or more likely his lawyer) will now be rubbing his hands together

Over what? You can't sue anyone over a live crowd deciding to shit on you completely of their own volition. You'd be laughed out of court if you tried.

On so many levels, too. This was a public event and you can't be held legally liable for just like, filming a public event and the comments of those people. But also, BTE at its core is a travelogue and has always shown portions of the performances of its main stars and that's included crowd reactions. This was a notable crowd reaction during their performance. Do they absolutely agree with and appreciate the chants? I believe so. I think just about anyone would. But to litigate that would be a mountainous effort and rife with alternate explanations and reasonings for why it should be presented regardless of any agreement they might have. And like, how do you differentiate Cutler recording it and using it on a webshow show from any of dozens of cell phone recordings I'm sure people had, let alone the international PPV broadcast? How does The Elite publishing a recording of this thing that they witnessed harm Punk, let alone harm Punk in ways different from when everyone saw it live? This would be a massive waste of money.

[jm]

Nov 21, 2022 20:09:56 GMT -5 slickrickstyles said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:03:02 GMT -5 jm said:

How exactly are the Elite "promoting" the chant? They just showed the crowd chanting it. And also, they never told the crowd to chant it in the first place even.
My goodness, I was kidding when I made the term Elite Derangement Syndrome. But as time goes on, it really is a thing.

Kyrie Irving was suspended from the NBA and lost sponsorships for tweeting a link to an antisemitic video (and rightfully so). It is taken as promoting your agenda in today's world when you bring attention to anything.

Mr. Fantastic would be impressed as to your ability to reach.

[Deleted]

Nov 21, 2022 20:16:54 GMT -5 ChitownKnight said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:09:56 GMT -5 slickrickstyles said:

Kyrie Irving was suspended from the NBA and lost sponsorships for tweeting a link to an antisemitic video (and rightfully so). It is taken as promoting your agenda in today's world when you bring attention to anything.

Bro your reaching lol. I like CM Punk and I want him back at some point, but there is a difference between posting an anti-Semitic video and posting fans chanting “f***” the guy that put you on blast for something that may or may not have happened and assaulted you

No it wasn't the content it was the action that when you post something you are seen as promoting it. I was not weighing the contents and never said I was.

[Kalmia]

Punk: "Your honor, 10,000 people chanted 'f*** CM Punk."

Judge: "So you want to sue these three people for chanting this?"

Punk: "No, they didn't chant it."

Judge: "So, you want to sue them for starting the chant?"

Punk: "No, they didn't start it either."

Judge: "So what do you want to sue them for?"

Punk: "They included it in their YouTube show."

Judge: "And is this the only time the chant was ever heard?"

Punk: "No, it was loudly chanted during the PPV."

Judge: "Is this the only footage of the PPV shown during that YouTube video?"

Punk: "No, they showed other parts."

Judge: "Is it unusual for parts of PPVs to be shown in this YouTube show?"

Punk: "No, they regularly show parts of matches and crowd reactions."

Judge: "Get out of my court."

[Deleted]

Nov 21, 2022 20:16:54 GMT -5 ChitownKnight said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:09:56 GMT -5 slickrickstyles said:

Kyrie Irving was suspended from the NBA and lost sponsorships for tweeting a link to an antisemitic video (and rightfully so). It is taken as promoting your agenda in today's world when you bring attention to anything.

Bro your reaching lol. I like CM Punk and I want him back at some point, but there is a difference between posting an anti-Semitic video and posting fans chanting “f***” the guy that put you on blast for something that may or may not have happened and assaulted you

Your weighing the two situations and misdirecting. I never said the contents were similar whatsoever I said the actions were the same and make you appear to have an agenda. When you post something you are promoting it and I provided an example. Renee just recently did the same for Cinnabon.

[Allie Kitsune]

Nov 21, 2022 20:09:56 GMT -5 slickrickstyles said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:03:02 GMT -5 jm said:

How exactly are the Elite "promoting" the chant? They just showed the crowd chanting it. And also, they never told the crowd to chant it in the first place even.
My goodness, I was kidding when I made the term Elite Derangement Syndrome. But as time goes on, it really is a thing.

Kyrie Irving was suspended from the NBA and lost sponsorships for tweeting a link to an antisemitic video (and rightfully so). It is taken as promoting your agenda in today's world when you bring attention to anything.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

I have no words for the paths this thread has taken to try and justify arguments against The Elite in this situation with Punk

I'm just gonna eat my muffin and witness the spectacle of just how far some people are willing to reach to try and justify this hatred.

[Breadville]

Nov 21, 2022 20:03:02 GMT -5 jm said:

Nov 21, 2022 19:45:33 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

So, these are my opinions.

The EVPs of the company should not be promoting chants like that

How exactly are the Elite "promoting" the chant? They just showed the crowd chanting it. And also, they never told the crowd to chant it in the first place even.
My goodness, I was kidding when I made the term Elite Derangement Syndrome. But as time goes on, it really is a thing.

I just went back and watched the DVR recording I have to see whether or not they did, and they definitely encouraged it/reacted to it while they were on the apron. 

The crowd is chanting "f*** CM Punk!" while Omega and Pac are in the ring. Nick and Matt turn around, obviously acknowledge it, camera cuts away, when it cuts back, Matt Jackson is making some kind of humping motion or pointing at his dick. They also make sure to highlight the chant in BTE this week. If you haven't seen it, there's a song playing during the match highlights, the song stops, and they get a nice clip/shot of the chant.

I tend to agree with the belief that it's not a great look to have the EVP's of your company do that. No, they didn't tell the crowd to chant it and I truly couldn't care less what they chant. They can chant the lyrics to "f*** the World" by ICP for all I care, but I do agree that it's a bad look to have EVP's out there doing that. And I hate that I had to go through this shit like the f***ing Zapruder film, but for whatever reason, the AEW fan base is quickly becoming toxic and will immediately light into anyone who doesn't praise The Elite, so I wanted to make damn sure I was accurate in what I described. It's become almost political, where you have to take a side, then you must swear to shit on anyone not on your side. The problem with that is that (to me, at least) it's becoming apparent that all parties involved f***ed up (some more than others). As I said in another thread, CM Punk was an absolutely disrespectful dick for the way he acted at that press conference. However, Matt and Nick aren't exactly proving him wrong with his portrait of them during that press conference. And if Tony is telling the truth and Punk actually didn't ask for Cabana to be released, he's at fault for not coming out A LOT sooner with that to his talent and putting that to rest. Trotting Cabana out there like he did seemed petty and further pushed the narrative that Punk wanted him out and now he gets to come back since Punk is gone. I just wish there was some sort of magic button to push to erase this shit from wrestling history. Not only because I was enjoying Punk's work in AEW and the fact that we were cheated out of the Punk/MJF story continuing, but the way fans of both sides have absolutely showed their asses throughout this thing has turned me off of wrestling a lot since it happened. 

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Nov 21, 2022 20:51:53 GMT -5 Breadville said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:03:02 GMT -5 jm said:

How exactly are the Elite "promoting" the chant? They just showed the crowd chanting it. And also, they never told the crowd to chant it in the first place even.
My goodness, I was kidding when I made the term Elite Derangement Syndrome. But as time goes on, it really is a thing.

I just went back and watched the DVR recording I have to see whether or not they did, and they definitely encouraged it/reacted to it while they were on the apron. 

The crowd is chanting "f*** CM Punk!" while Omega and Pac are in the ring. Nick and Matt turn around, obviously acknowledge it, camera cuts away, when it cuts back, Matt Jackson is making some kind of humping motion or pointing at his dick. They also make sure to highlight the chant in BTE this week. If you haven't seen it, there's a song playing during the match highlights, the song stops, and they get a nice clip/shot of the chant.

I tend to agree with the belief that it's not a great look to have the EVP's of your company do that. No, they didn't tell the crowd to chant it and I truly couldn't care less what they chant. They can chant the lyrics to "f*** the World" by ICP for all I care, but I do agree that it's a bad look to have EVP's out there doing that. And I hate that I had to go through this shit like the f***ing Zapruder film, but for whatever reason, the AEW fan base is quickly becoming toxic and will immediately light into anyone who doesn't praise The Elite, so I wanted to make damn sure I was accurate in what I described. It's become almost political, where you have to take a side, then you must swear to shit on anyone not on your side. The problem with that is that (to me, at least) it's becoming apparent that all parties involved f***ed up (some more than others). As I said in another thread, CM Punk was an absolutely disrespectful dick for the way he acted at that press conference. However, Matt and Nick aren't exactly proving him wrong with his portrait of them during that press conference. And if Tony is telling the truth and Punk actually didn't ask for Cabana to be released, he's at fault for not coming out A LOT sooner with that to his talent and putting that to rest. Trotting Cabana out there like he did seemed petty and further pushed the narrative that Punk wanted him out and now he gets to come back since Punk is gone. I just wish there was some sort of magic button to push to erase this shit from wrestling history. Not only because I was enjoying Punk's work in AEW and the fact that we were cheated out of the Punk/MJF story continuing, but the way fans of both sides have absolutely showed their asses throughout this thing has turned me off of wrestling a lot since it happened. 

Now that I have typed all of that, I eagerly await the replies telling me how stupid I am, how I should 'piss off', or the various GIFs/pictures that say something similar.

I mean if you want to completely bury your argument six feet into the ground before it even starts, being as condescending as possible to the rest of the board in how they may or may not respond to your Zapruder film breakdown about what the Elite were doing during the "F*** CM Punk" chant is the way to go, so congratulations?

[lucas_lee]

Nov 21, 2022 20:51:53 GMT -5 Breadville said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:03:02 GMT -5 jm said:

How exactly are the Elite "promoting" the chant? They just showed the crowd chanting it. And also, they never told the crowd to chant it in the first place even.
My goodness, I was kidding when I made the term Elite Derangement Syndrome. But as time goes on, it really is a thing.

I just went back and watched the DVR recording I have to see whether or not they did, and they definitely encouraged it/reacted to it while they were on the apron. 

The crowd is chanting "f*** CM Punk!" while Omega and Pac are in the ring. Nick and Matt turn around, obviously acknowledge it, camera cuts away, when it cuts back, Matt Jackson is making some kind of humping motion or pointing at his dick. They also make sure to highlight the chant in BTE this week. If you haven't seen it, there's a song playing during the match highlights, the song stops, and they get a nice clip/shot of the chant.

I tend to agree with the belief that it's not a great look to have the EVP's of your company do that. No, they didn't tell the crowd to chant it and I truly couldn't care less what they chant. They can chant the lyrics to "f*** the World" by ICP for all I care, but I do agree that it's a bad look to have EVP's out there doing that. And I hate that I had to go through this shit like the f***ing Zapruder film, but for whatever reason, the AEW fan base is quickly becoming toxic and will immediately light into anyone who doesn't praise The Elite, so I wanted to make damn sure I was accurate in what I described. It's become almost political, where you have to take a side, then you must swear to shit on anyone not on your side. The problem with that is that (to me, at least) it's becoming apparent that all parties involved f***ed up (some more than others). As I said in another thread, CM Punk was an absolutely disrespectful dick for the way he acted at that press conference. However, Matt and Nick aren't exactly proving him wrong with his portrait of them during that press conference. And if Tony is telling the truth and Punk actually didn't ask for Cabana to be released, he's at fault for not coming out A LOT sooner with that to his talent and putting that to rest. Trotting Cabana out there like he did seemed petty and further pushed the narrative that Punk wanted him out and now he gets to come back since Punk is gone. I just wish there was some sort of magic button to push to erase this shit from wrestling history. Not only because I was enjoying Punk's work in AEW and the fact that we were cheated out of the Punk/MJF story continuing, but the way fans of both sides have absolutely showed their asses throughout this thing has turned me off of wrestling a lot since it happened. 

Now that I have typed all of that, I eagerly await the replies telling me how stupid I am, how I should 'piss off', or the various GIFs/pictures that say something similar.

I actually agree with your point but this post ain't worth a side eye gif or something. You're just assuming and projecting

[Kalmia]

Punk made jokes about not being in locker rooms during his MMA commentary. The Elite showed the f*** CM Punk chants during BTE. Seems to me like both sides are having as much fun with this shit as they can, considering the probably long list of things they can't talk about. Maybe we should get back to doing that, too?

[Breadville]

Nov 21, 2022 20:56:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:51:53 GMT -5 Breadville said:

I just went back and watched the DVR recording I have to see whether or not they did, and they definitely encouraged it/reacted to it while they were on the apron. 

The crowd is chanting "f*** CM Punk!" while Omega and Pac are in the ring. Nick and Matt turn around, obviously acknowledge it, camera cuts away, when it cuts back, Matt Jackson is making some kind of humping motion or pointing at his dick. They also make sure to highlight the chant in BTE this week. If you haven't seen it, there's a song playing during the match highlights, the song stops, and they get a nice clip/shot of the chant.

I tend to agree with the belief that it's not a great look to have the EVP's of your company do that. No, they didn't tell the crowd to chant it and I truly couldn't care less what they chant. They can chant the lyrics to "f*** the World" by ICP for all I care, but I do agree that it's a bad look to have EVP's out there doing that. And I hate that I had to go through this shit like the f***ing Zapruder film, but for whatever reason, the AEW fan base is quickly becoming toxic and will immediately light into anyone who doesn't praise The Elite, so I wanted to make damn sure I was accurate in what I described. It's become almost political, where you have to take a side, then you must swear to shit on anyone not on your side. The problem with that is that (to me, at least) it's becoming apparent that all parties involved f***ed up (some more than others). As I said in another thread, CM Punk was an absolutely disrespectful dick for the way he acted at that press conference. However, Matt and Nick aren't exactly proving him wrong with his portrait of them during that press conference. And if Tony is telling the truth and Punk actually didn't ask for Cabana to be released, he's at fault for not coming out A LOT sooner with that to his talent and putting that to rest. Trotting Cabana out there like he did seemed petty and further pushed the narrative that Punk wanted him out and now he gets to come back since Punk is gone. I just wish there was some sort of magic button to push to erase this shit from wrestling history. Not only because I was enjoying Punk's work in AEW and the fact that we were cheated out of the Punk/MJF story continuing, but the way fans of both sides have absolutely showed their asses throughout this thing has turned me off of wrestling a lot since it happened. 

Now that I have typed all of that, I eagerly await the replies telling me how stupid I am, how I should 'piss off', or the various GIFs/pictures that say something similar.

I mean if you want to completely bury your argument six feet into the ground before it even starts, being as condescending as possible to the rest of the board in how they may or may not respond to your Zapruder film breakdown about what the Elite were doing during the "F*** CM Punk" chant is the way to go, so congratulations?

Friend, it's not a matter of being condescending. I'm just acknowledging I likely typed all of that shit out for no reason other than to get a negative reaction. I guess you could say I'm just mentally preparing myself.

[Breadville]

Nov 21, 2022 21:00:38 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

Punk made jokes about not being in locker rooms during his MMA commentary. The Elite showed the f*** CM Punk chants during BTE. Seems to me like both sides are having as much fun with this shit as they can, considering the probably long list of things they can't talk about. Maybe we should get back to doing that, too?

Are you insinuating we make this fun!? Who's side are you REALLY on!?