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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jul 26, 2023 15:01:28 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t think this needed more episodes at all Maybe if it was a better more interesting one where something worthwhile happened then sure but to take the whole premise of some of the biggest heroes are secret aliens and replace it with “Some politicians are” is certainly not worthy of more episodes When the only named hero who got replaced was War Machine and apparently, nobody else, that’s a problem.
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Post by Talent Name on Jul 26, 2023 15:06:37 GMT -5
I can't take Gravik seriously after watching Barbie last night
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 26, 2023 15:23:17 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t think this needed more episodes at all Maybe if it was a better more interesting one where something worthwhile happened then sure but to take the whole premise of some of the biggest heroes are secret aliens and replace it with “Some politicians are” is certainly not worthy of more episodes When the only named hero who got replaced was War Machine and apparently, nobody else, that’s a problem. I've seen people going, "Oh, wow, they wiped out so much of his character development with this!" over it and I'm just kind of like... What character development? The only times I can ever remember Rhodey doing anything whatsoever are the stuff he did in Iron Man 2 and being a plot device in Iron Man 3 and Civil War. Dude has the character depth of a napkin.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 26, 2023 15:40:00 GMT -5
I've seen people going, "Oh, wow, they wiped out so much of his character development with this!" over it and I'm just kind of like... What character development? The only times I can ever remember Rhodey doing anything whatsoever are the stuff he did in Iron Man 2 and being a plot device in Iron Man 3 and Civil War. Dude has the character depth of a napkin. Even Don Cheadle has been hyping up Secret Wars and, to a lesser extent, Armor Wars as Rhodey's time to develop as something more than "Tony's sidekick".
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Post by salz4life on Jul 26, 2023 19:33:15 GMT -5
Need to get to the last two episodes, but I can definitely get jiggy with the idea of having longer seasons. Six episodes to tell an entire unique story is just not enough time. Disney Plus should be the venue where they can stretch their legs out and tell a longer, expansive story. We'll see, I suppose They need to be able to tow a fine line. Like…I don’t see a reason why Echo would need to 10-12 episodes. Secret Invasion is that sort of storyline where the storyline is so big it needed that extra space to up the stakes. It came off rushed with no real stakes other than pissing some fans off. It’s Stephanie Meyer’s “Secret Invasion” and Gi’ah is Bella. It’s some shitty fan fiction bullshit. Echo is going to be 10-12 episodes!?!?
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 26, 2023 19:59:26 GMT -5
They need to be able to tow a fine line. Like…I don’t see a reason why Echo would need to 10-12 episodes. Secret Invasion is that sort of storyline where the storyline is so big it needed that extra space to up the stakes. It came off rushed with no real stakes other than pissing some fans off. It’s Stephanie Meyer’s “Secret Invasion” and Gi’ah is Bella. It’s some shitty fan fiction bullshit. Echo is going to be 10-12 episodes!?!? No lol. Just saying that’s one that wouldn’t necessarily need to be. It’s just going to be six as well but they’re dumping them all at once.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jul 26, 2023 20:07:34 GMT -5
This show was pretty dreadful. I’d much rather just reread my Secret Invasion Comics.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jul 26, 2023 21:43:00 GMT -5
now if you'll excuse me, I'll just rewatch the Avengers EMH version of Secret Invasion for like the hundredth time. At least they had more than one Skrull-replaced hero there.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 26, 2023 22:24:07 GMT -5
So if the Harvest was the DNA of combatants in Endgame’s Big battle… {Spoiler}…the f*** was Ghost’s and Abomination’s DNA doing there you sloppy hacks?
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jul 26, 2023 22:25:29 GMT -5
I’m just not sure what message Marvel wanted viewers to take away from this. The revelation that the Skrulls were actually the “good” guys in Captain Marvel was undone…only it really wasn’t, since the Skrulls were shown to have a pretty legit grievance going back 30 years. Then at the end, when they’ve got even MORE to aggrieved about. It undid a good bit of Nick Fury’s mystique and somehow made him feel more unlikeable than before.
Humanity does not come out of this looking like even the lesser evil, America in particular.
There’s very little the way of closure and the only real change to the status quo is that the MCU now has a minority group to openly hate and fear…which Mutants are eventually going to be once they’re introduced beyond just Ms Marvel.
I don’t know. Maybe this type of thing would have felt more satisfying if it wasn’t part of this enormous multi-media shared universe. But maybe it’s just not very good.
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Post by Evil Homer on Jul 27, 2023 0:20:00 GMT -5
it was kind of middle of the road marvel show, not the best but also not the worst. It did have the best acting out of all the MCU
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 27, 2023 10:15:00 GMT -5
So if the Harvest was the DNA of combatants in Endgame’s Big battle… {Spoiler}{Spoiler}…the f*** was Ghost’s and Abomination’s DNA doing there you sloppy hacks? {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}And where was Howard The Duck's DNA? Some Quack Fu would have been nice to see.
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Post by salz4life on Jul 27, 2023 10:41:34 GMT -5
I'm coming out of this having no idea what The Marvels is going to be about. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Will the Peace meeting between the Skrulls and Kree be part of it?
What is G'iah going to be doing moving forward. It seems as if she is now the most powerful character in the Universe.
I assume Loki Season 2 is going be centered on what to do about Kang... which brings up the fact of what the hell they are going to do with that character.
I'm a big MCU mark, but I'm just really kind of meh about everything right now.
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Post by salz4life on Jul 27, 2023 11:57:48 GMT -5
Another thought.... {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Depending on when Rhodes was taken... he might not know Tony Stark is dead.
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Post by salz4life on Jul 27, 2023 12:13:30 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Rescued Everett Ross was wearing the same shirt he was when Val arrested him in Wakanda Forever.... is Val a Skrull or just a bit of a screw up?
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jul 27, 2023 12:19:58 GMT -5
I mean, the original Secret Invasion lead to Norman Osborn, well-known psychopath and killer, becoming the top guy in Marvel's Intelligence, so maybe the concept just sucks in general?
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Post by Moppy on Jul 27, 2023 14:33:25 GMT -5
We can try to rationalise it, but it just wasn't very good. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I'd like to know who thought Fury blasting off into the deep space sunset with a skrull wife nobody knew/cares about would make for a satisfying payoff, but here we are.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 27, 2023 14:38:06 GMT -5
When the only named hero who got replaced was War Machine and apparently, nobody else, that’s a problem. I've seen people going, "Oh, wow, they wiped out so much of his character development with this!" over it and I'm just kind of like... What character development? The only times I can ever remember Rhodey doing anything whatsoever are the stuff he did in Iron Man 2 and being a plot device in Iron Man 3 and Civil War. Dude has the character depth of a napkin. He did have some good interactions with Nebula in Endgame, particularly their shared bonding over having to come to terms with what had happened to their respective bodies that gets massively undercut depending on *when* the body swap happened.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jul 27, 2023 16:35:25 GMT -5
I mean, the original Secret Invasion lead to Norman Osborn, well-known psychopath and killer, becoming the top guy in Marvel's Intelligence, so maybe the concept just sucks in general? As I noted, the Avengers EMH cartoon had an excellent take on Secret Invasion. Having a Skrull version of Captain America as one of the main villains using Cap’s credibility to help further the Invasion was a nice choice.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 27, 2023 20:17:20 GMT -5
What pisses me off is that they could have easily backed off the big name heavy MCU shows and given us an AoS sequel series in “Agents of SWORD” . But now we’ve got no series, no Abigail Brand and a pointless series that just left us where we were before it began with a little less Hill and Talos.
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